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Posted: 1/27/2016 9:39:24 PM EDT
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Wow!...now, a 9" barrel shotgun is way outside of my experience, so I'm not poo-pooing the idea as I don't know. Strictly from a "perceived" standpoint, how does a 9" 12ga barrel shotgun shoot in terms of effectiveness or even pleasure?
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Posted: 1/27/2016 11:23:29 PM EDT
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All the better to blow off your off hand if it slips...
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Posted: 1/27/2016 11:52:41 PM EDT
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Meh, it sounds like the integrated vertical grip solves the friendly fire problem...or at least ensures that if it does happen it is purely operator error.
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Posted: 1/28/2016 12:44:21 AM EDT
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Thread is missing pics.
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Posted: 1/28/2016 1:17:19 AM EDT
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This is really neat and a good alternative to their current SBS models after the Form 1...but this looks similar in barrel length to their current SBS, 14"ish? Nowhere near 9".
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Posted: 1/28/2016 1:59:58 AM EDT
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This is really neat and a good alternative to their current SBS models after the Form 1...but this looks similar in barrel length to their current SBS, 14"ish? Nowhere near 9". Read the first post! |
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Posted: 1/28/2016 8:54:36 AM EDT
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This is really neat and a good alternative to their current SBS models after the Form 1...but this looks similar in barrel length to their current SBS, 14"ish? Nowhere near 9". Read the first post! I've reread it multiple times. It says hat after chopping at the barrel nut you'll ultimately end up with a 9" KSG. The barrel nut is just in front of the foregrip assembly in line with the end of the shell tubes, correct? I'm not seeing how this adds up to anything close to 9" after the chop if the picture shows 18" pre-chop as a reference point. I'm not being argumentative, what am I missing? ETA: maybe I just suck at estimating 9" from pics?...that sounds so dirty.. |
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Posted: 1/28/2016 11:54:45 AM EDT
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Here is a photo of it "cut"... <a href="http://s135.photobucket.com/user/PursuitSS/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-01/132A2A8E-837C-4CEC-805B-7502DD1246AA_4.png.html" target="_blank">http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q125/PursuitSS/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-01/132A2A8E-837C-4CEC-805B-7502DD1246AA_4.png</a> I gotta admit. That is kind of sexy. |
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Posted: 1/28/2016 4:43:38 PM EDT
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Well the guys at the booth at SHOT told me the bbl length would be 9" after chop but maybe they were exaggerating. In any event it is shorter then their current NFA model and you get to shoot it while you are waiting for your tax stamp to come back.
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Posted: 1/28/2016 7:24:29 PM EDT
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The foregrip design doesn't exactly match the design language of the rest of the gun and protects awfully far down (I would have designed it to match the pistol grip of the gun, and thrown the same texture on the sides of the pump that wraps the action), but beyond those minor asthetic quibbles I gotta say, that is a pretty neat concept.
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Posted: 1/29/2016 12:51:04 AM EDT
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really calls out to be left as same length and have some elaborate porting applied and add an integral can to it.
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Posted: 1/29/2016 2:20:53 AM EDT
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i don't get why anyone would want anything shorter. the ksg is very short the way it is, with excellent capacity. I suppose going shorter to put a can on it would make sense. I gotta get a can for mine. It would blow your eardrums if you had to use it indoors for HD.
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Posted: 1/29/2016 2:54:10 AM EDT
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really calls out to be left as same length and have some elaborate porting applied and add an integral can to it. integral would be cool if not cut it @ 9.25-10 & thread it for a SiCo Salvo 
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Posted: 2/10/2016 6:35:38 AM EDT
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Just took a look and the KSG SBS is exactly the same capacity, 10+ 1, and length based upon the pump mechanism and grip. 13 inch barrels with about 9 inches in front of the grip is what I believe they meant. You can't shorten the pump mechanism without major changes on the KSG as the handle goes all the way to the trigger guard.
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Posted: 2/10/2016 8:50:05 AM EDT
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Just took a look and the KSG SBS is exactly the same capacity, 10+ 1, and length based upon the pump mechanism and grip. 13 inch barrels with about 9 inches in front of the grip is what I believe they meant. You can't shorten the pump mechanism without major changes on the KSG as the handle goes all the way to the trigger guard. This makes much more sense and was my assumption as well. It looks like their current NFA model with a standard barrel. It's certainly neat and makes an already compact bullpup even more awesome if SBS'd. |
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Posted: 2/13/2016 3:48:40 PM EDT
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OP were you given any indication on price? I'd certainly be in for one......
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Posted: 2/14/2016 1:31:21 PM EDT
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OP were you given any indication on price? I'd certainly be in for one...... No indication on price nor whether they will actually make it to market. They did have a working photo-type which they said will be exactly the same as the production model. See the pictures above. |
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Posted: 2/14/2016 3:44:12 PM EDT
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Looks like it would be a good time but I'm with Manticore; the VG just looks out of place.
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Posted: 2/14/2016 7:40:24 PM EDT
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they are on gunbroker and have been for a while now. The Patrol is common and a few of the Tactical ones show up now and then.
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Posted: 2/16/2016 11:04:02 AM EDT
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they are on gunbroker and have been for a while now. The Patrol is common and a few of the Tactical ones show up now and then. But have you seen the NFA Ready? I have been looking and have not seen any. I am going to go with what they told me at SHOT, that the NFA model is not out yet and not projected release date. |
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Posted: 2/16/2016 8:24:30 PM EDT
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I have not seen the NFA ready that was a new one to me :) but now I will be looking
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they are on gunbroker and have been for a while now. The Patrol is common and a few of the Tactical ones show up now and then. But have you seen the NFA Ready? I have been looking and have not seen any. I am going to go with what they told me at SHOT, that the NFA model is not out yet and not projected release date. |
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Posted: 2/22/2016 8:46:13 PM EDT
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I have a tactical. The NFA ready is exactly the same with a longer barrel. Same fore grip, capacity, etc. Even the pic rail has the same number of cuts. Easy model to make since all they did was extend the barrel and leave everything else they same. Foregrip needs to be the length it is as it houses the batteries for the integral light.
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