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Link Posted: 1/27/2016 7:43:58 AM EDT
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Dying to find out if it lost some weight vs the standard tavor...
Link Posted: 1/27/2016 11:51:28 AM EDT
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One of my primary interests as well.
Link Posted: 1/27/2016 12:38:42 PM EDT
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One of my primary interests as well.


I am also wanting to know if it lost some weight
Link Posted: 1/27/2016 12:49:39 PM EDT
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I advise nobody buy the X95 and instead keep their regular tavors. The less people in line the better.
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Link Posted: 1/27/2016 6:01:21 PM EDT
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I advise nobody buy the X95 and instead keep their regular tavors. The less people in line the better.


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Less.

Unless you think you can count them all.

Link Posted: 1/27/2016 11:25:09 PM EDT
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It will apparently come with a slightly lighter stock trigger than the Tavor


She talks about it at 1:30 in the video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00vkgbPTOOc
Link Posted: 1/28/2016 7:51:00 AM EDT
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Apparently the trigger is an upgrade and you are able to drop it on your tavor.. Or buy one to replace your crummy tavor trigger. I'm glad I waited and didn't buy a tavor. I'll pay $1600 for a x95 if it lost half or 1 pound total weight compared to the tavor.
Link Posted: 1/29/2016 12:47:01 AM EDT
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X95 in 13" is 6.68 pounds. 16" is 7.06 pounds. Empty. Off the website.
Link Posted: 1/29/2016 7:51:22 AM EDT
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I dont think so. This is per their us webpage:

Model X95
Ammunition5.56 X 45mm - NATO
OperationGas on piston head, rotating locking bolt
Firing modeSemi-Auto, Auto
Barrel Rifling1:7" Twist, 6 RH Grooves
Weight (W/O Magazine)7.13 lbs
Barrel Length13"
Overall Length (OAL)22.8"
Muzzle Velocity
(Approx.) (ft/sec)2822
Rate of Fire
(Approx.) (rds/min)700-1000
SightsBackup Iron (BUIS)

Model X95 SMG
Ammunition9 X 19mm
OperationBlowback, firing from a closed bolt
Firing modeSemi-Auto, Auto
Barrel Rifling1:10" Twist, 4 RH Grooves
Weight (W/O Magazine)6.57 lbs
Barrel Length11"
Overall Length (OAL)22.8"
Muzzle Velocity
(Approx.) (ft/sec)1312
Rate of Fire
(Approx.) (rds/min)700-1000
SightsBackup Iron (BUIS)

Source: https://iwi.us/Law-Enforcement/Firearms/X95.aspx
Link Posted: 1/29/2016 12:28:57 PM EDT
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From their latest news letter, It will be chambered in 5.56, 9mm, and 300 BO. The 300 BO barrel will be available for the TAVOR at 499.
Link Posted: 1/29/2016 4:05:19 PM EDT
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Apparently the trigger is an upgrade and you are able to drop it on your tavor.. Or buy one to replace your crummy tavor trigger. I'm glad I waited and didn't buy a tavor. I'll pay $1600 for a x95 if it lost half or 1 pound total weight compared to the tavor.
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It will apparently come with a slightly lighter stock trigger than the Tavor


She talks about it at 1:30 in the video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00vkgbPTOOc


Apparently the trigger is an upgrade and you are able to drop it on your tavor.. Or buy one to replace your crummy tavor trigger. I'm glad I waited and didn't buy a tavor. I'll pay $1600 for a x95 if it lost half or 1 pound total weight compared to the tavor.

They are going have to go with "substantially" lighter....going only slightly lighter will still render a ridiculously heavy trigger as opposed to the Tavors ludicrously heavy trigger
Link Posted: 1/29/2016 6:56:35 PM EDT
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They are going have to go with "substantially" lighter....going only slightly lighter will still render a ridiculously heavy trigger as opposed to the Tavors ludicrously heavy trigger
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It will apparently come with a slightly lighter stock trigger than the Tavor


She talks about it at 1:30 in the video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00vkgbPTOOc


Apparently the trigger is an upgrade and you are able to drop it on your tavor.. Or buy one to replace your crummy tavor trigger. I'm glad I waited and didn't buy a tavor. I'll pay $1600 for a x95 if it lost half or 1 pound total weight compared to the tavor.

They are going have to go with "substantially" lighter....going only slightly lighter will still render a ridiculously heavy trigger as opposed to the Tavors ludicrously heavy trigger


The new trigger is 5-6 lbs.
Link Posted: 1/30/2016 12:11:04 AM EDT
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Standard 16.5" tavor is 7.9 lbs. Iam guessing the x95 is about 7.5. I dont think the mdr will be much lighter. Piston driven rifles just weigh more.
Link Posted: 1/30/2016 3:25:16 AM EDT
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I dont think so. This is per their us webpage:

Model X95
Ammunition5.56 X 45mm - NATO
OperationGas on piston head, rotating locking bolt
Firing modeSemi-Auto, Auto
Barrel Rifling1:7" Twist, 6 RH Grooves
Weight (W/O Magazine)7.13 lbs
Barrel Length13"
Overall Length (OAL)22.8"
Muzzle Velocity
(Approx.) (ft/sec)2822
Rate of Fire
(Approx.) (rds/min)700-1000
SightsBackup Iron (BUIS)

Model X95 SMG
Ammunition9 X 19mm
OperationBlowback, firing from a closed bolt
Firing modeSemi-Auto, Auto
Barrel Rifling1:10" Twist, 4 RH Grooves
Weight (W/O Magazine)6.57 lbs
Barrel Length11"
Overall Length (OAL)22.8"
Muzzle Velocity
(Approx.) (ft/sec)1312
Rate of Fire
(Approx.) (rds/min)700-1000
SightsBackup Iron (BUIS)

Source: https://iwi.us/Law-Enforcement/Firearms/X95.aspx
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X95 in 13" is 6.68 pounds. 16" is 7.06 pounds. Empty. Off the website.


I dont think so. This is per their us webpage:

Model X95
Ammunition5.56 X 45mm - NATO
OperationGas on piston head, rotating locking bolt
Firing modeSemi-Auto, Auto
Barrel Rifling1:7" Twist, 6 RH Grooves
Weight (W/O Magazine)7.13 lbs
Barrel Length13"
Overall Length (OAL)22.8"
Muzzle Velocity
(Approx.) (ft/sec)2822
Rate of Fire
(Approx.) (rds/min)700-1000
SightsBackup Iron (BUIS)

Model X95 SMG
Ammunition9 X 19mm
OperationBlowback, firing from a closed bolt
Firing modeSemi-Auto, Auto
Barrel Rifling1:10" Twist, 4 RH Grooves
Weight (W/O Magazine)6.57 lbs
Barrel Length11"
Overall Length (OAL)22.8"
Muzzle Velocity
(Approx.) (ft/sec)1312
Rate of Fire
(Approx.) (rds/min)700-1000
SightsBackup Iron (BUIS)

Source: https://iwi.us/Law-Enforcement/Firearms/X95.aspx


Since I'm civilian these are the specs I found that are applicable.
X95 Rifle / Carbine 13" 5.56 Nato. 3.03Kg=6.68 Lbs.
http://www.israel-weapon.com/?catid={ED781BF5-92EB-43AB-BAC7-D89BFBC28144}
X95-L 16.5" 5.56 Nato. 3.2KG=7.05Lbs.
http://www.israel-weapon.com/default.asp?catid={6D9367DF-6A8D-4020-8E19-A7322FFCA668}
Law enforcement always gets the perks which may account for the weight differential.
Link Posted: 1/30/2016 4:20:43 PM EDT
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Has anyone received confirmation of release? Someone told me Spring, but they were probably blowing smoke.
Link Posted: 1/30/2016 9:31:10 PM EDT
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IWI US has said that the x95 will release in March-April  and a SBR will release in Q3 of 2016.

Link Posted: 1/30/2016 9:34:44 PM EDT
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Since I'm civilian these are the specs I found that are applicable.
X95 Rifle / Carbine 13" 5.56 Nato. 3.03Kg=6.68 Lbs.
http://www.israel-weapon.com/?catid={ED781BF5-92EB-43AB-BAC7-D89BFBC28144}
X95-L 16.5" 5.56 Nato. 3.2KG=7.05Lbs.
http://www.israel-weapon.com/default.asp?catid={6D9367DF-6A8D-4020-8E19-A7322FFCA668}
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I dont think so. This is per their us webpage:

Model X95
Ammunition5.56 X 45mm - NATO
OperationGas on piston head, rotating locking bolt
Firing modeSemi-Auto, Auto
Barrel Rifling1:7" Twist, 6 RH Grooves
Weight (W/O Magazine)7.13 lbs
Barrel Length13"
Overall Length (OAL)22.8"
Muzzle Velocity
(Approx.) (ft/sec)2822
Rate of Fire
(Approx.) (rds/min)700-1000
SightsBackup Iron (BUIS)

Model X95 SMG
Ammunition9 X 19mm
OperationBlowback, firing from a closed bolt
Firing modeSemi-Auto, Auto
Barrel Rifling1:10" Twist, 4 RH Grooves
Weight (W/O Magazine)6.57 lbs
Barrel Length11"
Overall Length (OAL)22.8"
Muzzle Velocity
(Approx.) (ft/sec)1312
Rate of Fire
(Approx.) (rds/min)700-1000
SightsBackup Iron (BUIS)

Source: https://iwi.us/Law-Enforcement/Firearms/X95.aspx


Since I'm civilian these are the specs I found that are applicable.
X95 Rifle / Carbine 13" 5.56 Nato. 3.03Kg=6.68 Lbs.
http://www.israel-weapon.com/?catid={ED781BF5-92EB-43AB-BAC7-D89BFBC28144}
X95-L 16.5" 5.56 Nato. 3.2KG=7.05Lbs.
http://www.israel-weapon.com/default.asp?catid={6D9367DF-6A8D-4020-8E19-A7322FFCA668}
Law enforcement always gets the perks which may account for the weight differential.



Different tavor in that webpage. I agree with the post above it will most likely come in at 7.5 lbs.



Link Posted: 2/4/2016 10:33:10 AM EDT
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I had a chance to shoot both an original Tavor and an X95 SBR side by side back in September. I liked the X95 enough more that I suspended my search for an original. The X95 worked better for me, and seemed more refined. I'm in!
Link Posted: 2/6/2016 12:43:05 PM EDT
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You can swap out trigger guards on the X95 correct?




I've seen pics of the X95 with a smaller trigger guard (pretty much just around the trigger itself instead of the entire length of the pistol grip).
Link Posted: 2/6/2016 4:04:41 PM EDT
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Very nice!

Link Posted: 2/7/2016 9:59:35 AM EDT
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The X95 clearly has a longer LOP, the grip is a different angle, and the forearm area is longer and well, different. While the mag and bolt releases are definitely improvements, I wonder how the overall ergos are now that so much as changed from the Tavor. I really like the ergos on my Tavor. I'm interested to hear from people who've shot both to see how they like the civilian X95 (not the Israeli SBR version).
Link Posted: 2/7/2016 10:53:56 AM EDT
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Wonder if they will sell or make thinner buttpads. I don't need an extra 1.5" LOP and it's just 5.56. Yeah I realize that they did it to keep it NFA OAL but that can be mitigated by 1) SBR or 2) pin/weld FH
Link Posted: 2/7/2016 11:05:26 AM EDT
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Wonder if they will sell or make thinner buttpads. I don't need an extra 1.5" LOP and it's just 5.56. Yeah I realize that they did it to keep it NFA OAL but that can be mitigated by 1) SBR or 2) pin/weld FH
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All it will take is a crescent-shaped buttpad that keeps the length the same at the top.
Link Posted: 2/7/2016 10:51:38 PM EDT
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Any info if it will take the aftermarket triggers we've sunk big money into?  I may consider it if I didn't drop coin to make my current Tavor pretty comparable to an AR.
Link Posted: 2/7/2016 10:53:28 PM EDT
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Any info if it will take the aftermarket triggers we've sunk big money into?  I may consider it if I didn't drop coin to make my current Tavor pretty comparable to an AR.
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Tavor and X95 trigger packs are compatible.
Link Posted: 2/8/2016 3:02:07 AM EDT
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so geissle trigger pack  and the geissle lighten bow trigger will work in the x95??
Link Posted: 2/8/2016 5:42:17 PM EDT
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so geissle trigger pack  and the geissle lighten bow trigger will work in the x95??
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The trigger pack will definitely work but I have not heard about the lightning bow
Link Posted: 2/9/2016 10:25:40 PM EDT
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The more recently released second-gen trigger packs will install in it. But not the originally released ones.
Link Posted: 2/10/2016 9:27:01 PM EDT
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I sent a message to iwi asking for the weight...
Link Posted: 2/11/2016 11:56:38 AM EDT
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i got to handle one last week at a show. it is very nice and has some nice updated features but the size and weight difference is minimal compared to the tavor. im not going to run out and drop the coin on it any time soon. i like my tavor and do not see enough difference to justify the purchase in the near future.
Link Posted: 2/13/2016 11:42:55 AM EDT
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i got to handle one last week at a show. it is very nice and has some nice updated features but the size and weight difference is minimal compared to the tavor. im not going to run out and drop the coin on it any time soon. i like my tavor and do not see enough difference to justify the purchase in the near future.
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does it still have the same weight balance? Seems like there is more up front of the x95
Link Posted: 2/15/2016 6:00:41 PM EDT
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You realize it's the parent website I was referencing. IWI in Israel.
Link Posted: 2/15/2016 8:05:15 PM EDT
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I didnt notice any extra weight up front compared to the tavor. I went back and forth between the 2 of them a couple times.
Link Posted: 2/23/2016 9:13:38 AM EDT
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says on their facebook page they should be shipping by the end of march.
Link Posted: 2/26/2016 3:42:11 PM EDT
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I wonder how realistic is the fall release for the SBR version going to be.
Link Posted: 3/2/2016 10:10:25 PM EDT
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Wondering the same thing, release date will be.......

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Link Posted: 3/13/2016 6:18:52 PM EDT
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The more and more I look at the X95, the more I realize how much I don't want it because the X95 Micro (the SBR version) is just so much more badass.




I really hope they do release an SBR version in the fall...
Link Posted: 3/14/2016 12:45:02 AM EDT
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I've heard the release date is now looking like April/May for the X95.



Can't verify 100%, but I read it on bullpupforum.
Link Posted: 3/14/2016 2:47:02 AM EDT
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I've heard the release date is now looking like April/May for the X95.

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Link Posted: 3/14/2016 11:28:40 AM EDT
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  The more and more I look at the X95, the more I realize how much I don't want it because the X95 Micro (the SBR version) is just so much more badass.


I really hope they do release an SBR version in the fall...
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  The more and more I look at the X95, the more I realize how much I don't want it because the X95 Micro (the SBR version) is just so much more badass.


I really hope they do release an SBR version in the fall...

Is the factory SBR going to have a 13" or 11" barrel?

Edit: looks like 13", the 11" will be for the 9mm

I don't think I'd hassle with registration and all the BS that goes along with registration like travel restrictions for 3" on a bullpup.  

It just doesn't feel as useful as cutting around 5" off of a AR. Just my opinion.
Link Posted: 3/14/2016 12:43:10 PM EDT
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I also don't see the appeal for a SBR bull pup
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The only appeal is if you're trying to clone an IDF X95 - which have 13" barrels.




But yes, it's really not the biggest deal in the world.
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Is the factory SBR going to have a 13" or 11" barrel?

Edit: looks like 13", the 11" will be for the 9mm

I don't think I'd hassle with registration and all the BS that goes along with registration like travel restrictions for 3" on a bullpup.  

It just doesn't feel as useful as cutting around 5" off of a AR. Just my opinion.
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  The more and more I look at the X95, the more I realize how much I don't want it because the X95 Micro (the SBR version) is just so much more badass.


I really hope they do release an SBR version in the fall...

Is the factory SBR going to have a 13" or 11" barrel?

Edit: looks like 13", the 11" will be for the 9mm

I don't think I'd hassle with registration and all the BS that goes along with registration like travel restrictions for 3" on a bullpup.  

It just doesn't feel as useful as cutting around 5" off of a AR. Just my opinion.


You take an inch off the butt stock too.
Link Posted: 3/16/2016 9:11:49 AM EDT
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Yep the more I look at this the more I realize how fing excited I am to own one..... this would make a great few Xmas gifts to my kids I hope IWI can help me deliver ...Santa will work extra hard to save up coin for these babies

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Sparks, it looks like you play hard with your toys, and several makes. Are you able to switch guns(aug, Tavor)without too much problem as far as mag changes?
I'm reading about how lots of folks want to get back to an AR type mag release; do you see a point to that.
No service record here so nothing to relearn but also no "gaming" experience yet either but I don't see the point, for me, to sell what I have for a slight improvement, imho. Money is definitely an issue here! I got my second aug when the Tavor came out and my second Tavor when the x95 was brought out(even though it wasn't available).

Thanks all.
Link Posted: 3/16/2016 10:22:52 AM EDT
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I transition from the Aug to the Tavor to Ak to Scar I never really understood the big battle on transitioning weapons? They all are a little different but easy to go back and forth between. I have never been running a gun and messed up a weapons manipulation by trying to preform another weapons operation. I think this is just silly to be honest.

As for selling the Tavor I love the mag release right were it is at. I have a different take on mag changes with the group of guys and gals we shoot with. I like the fast mag ditch and reload just as much as the next guy, and if I had to reload in a hurry for whatever the reason it can be performed fast with the Aug and Tavor with easy.
But for 99% of my mag changes on the run or behind cover I will be retaining my mags. I run the 3 guns and trainning as if it were worst case scenario in which simple civilians like myself do not have a mag supplier with endless piles of mags ready to hand out to its troops. So we treat mags like gold, we try and retain all mags all the time. If a teammate drops a mag on the course or In trainning I pick it up, put their name on it, and lay it on the loading table till the shoot is over at the end of the day. When guys go from 6-8 mags down to 3 they realize how important they really are and in a shit hit the fan situation those mags might be the last mags they ever see for their weapons. . just the way we approach it In our group but alas I am just rambling sorry back to your question on the Tavor/x95

I have found that I fricken love the Tavor mag release. I have heard that some have had it get bumped when slung and lost their mag? This may be the case but I have yet to have this happen. I will sling my Tavor in a 2point or single point while running or standing to transition to my pistol and never had the mag get bumped. I figure it could happen eventually but if it were a real situation and I was slinging fast to pull my pistol my empty mag is not my biggest problem at that moment forsure. I have also taken my Tavors repelling into some crazy canyons and climbed back out while having it slung on my back and never have had it drop a mag while I slammed and bumped against rock walls. The reason I like the Tavors mag release on the rear is mostly for what I stated above. I love that when I do a mag change , expecally in a full sprint or when I am muddy, that I can do a full palm beer can grip on the mag and release it with my pointer finger. I can keep full control on the gun and mag, retain the mag in a dump pouch or pocket and reload all while keeping full hands on the system. It is pretty fricken cherry in my opinion. I am super excited for the x95 but I will not be selling any of my Tavors for one. I consider the x95 a hole new weapon and want to get one to try out and see if it fits me and my style but am looking at it as a hole new animal. I know people are saying it is the new and improved Tavor but I try and not look at it that way. I keep putting it in my mind as a completely new piece of gear much like the Aug , fn2000 , Mdr, and others. I am excited to give one a run if we get lucky enough to buy them before elections this year and the Hillary bomb....

I don't know if that answered any of your questions or if I just rambled a bunch....sorry if i did... Either way Tavor, Aug,or x95 I think if the gun fits your shooting style you can't go wrong. I think you have two of the best 556 guns ever made hands down, amazing taste in Weapons forsure. And as far as changing Weapons manipulations that is just practice practice like martial arts. But lucky for us we are all gun guys so practicing with our favorite gear to master it is what we like to do anyways.....



Link Posted: 3/16/2016 11:05:16 AM EDT
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A little trainning a few weekends ago pretty fun... We all worked on some new skills...

Worked some guys threw some super basic cqb movements and corners. Just a intro and a horrible pic from a phone my buddy took. Haha



Worked some knife skills close and personal with a blade.. One of my favorites



And ran a few new guys threw some basic repelling on a 3 level cliff made for a fun fun day




Link Posted: 3/16/2016 3:57:18 PM EDT
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Only advantage I see is is a shorter barrel if you are going to run suppressed.
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Wondering the same thing, release date will be.......

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I wonder how realistic is the fall release for the SBR version going to be.


  The more and more I look at the X95, the more I realize how much I don't want it because the X95 Micro (the SBR version) is just so much more badass.


I really hope they do release an SBR version in the fall...


Me too!!

"Fall" is pretty vague and I suspect it won't be orderable until 2017.  I can wait.

Realistically though I won't get my hopes up until it's in my hands.

And for all y'all who don't understand the SBR X95 (aka the real X95), cutting that many inches off of an already-short rifle is a lot more noticeable than lopping off some extra barrel on an AR15.
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