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Posted: 11/28/2015 2:48:48 PM EDT
[#1]
What are you looking to do with it? I love my tavor it's become my go to rifle. There is still plenty of love for them out there. Other than the heavy factory trigger there isn't a single negative in my book and even the trigger isn't bad at all.
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Posted: 11/28/2015 3:07:54 PM EDT
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I agree with the poster above, my Tavor has been excellent. Only changes I made were the geiselle trigger and a sling. I love my Scar 17, but consider the Tavor my number 1 rifle. Funny, when I bring the Tavor to the range, I end up using all the ammo I bring for it, every time. I can't say that for my other rifles.
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Posted: 11/28/2015 3:46:30 PM EDT
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The tavor has better trigger options: three companies putting out product just triggers right now. Lots of part availability. If you have an AR you have mag comparability. The tavor suppresses much easier. It comes with back up sights.
I own both and shoot both I'm glad you're not asking my to decide for you between the two. Good pricing. Be an arfer: buy both! Thank you for the nice diversion from the mall. |
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Posted: 11/28/2015 4:01:54 PM EDT
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$1500 is a great price for a Tavor.
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Posted: 11/28/2015 5:38:31 PM EDT
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I'm really not a Tavor fanboy...but I am definitely a fan. However, I really like my AUG and RFB too...very much. The Tavor has something else going for it that the AUG and RFB don't. The Tavor has a fairly large and active aftermarket interest. It also has different versions of the gun still in progress. It has sold way over the number initially expected by IWI, and that alone indicates a positive. On the lack of current hoopla and hysteria, seems like that happens any time after a new gun has been out awhile. The big thing you don't here in spite of many, many sales of this rifle is bunches of problems and failures. This gun was originally developed as a military weapon much like the AUG and AR. That's usually a good foundation. Buy the Tavor with confidence. I used mine in a 2-day police tactical school, and it was flawless...and has been for all my other uses.
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Posted: 11/28/2015 7:19:40 PM EDT
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I love my Tavor and consider it the gem of my gun collection.
Where are you? Maybe someone on this forum is close to you and will let you shoot their Tavor before you make the decision to buy one. Also, maybe you can find a range that has one for rent. |
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Posted: 11/28/2015 8:28:12 PM EDT
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Love the Tavor. Mine's become my go to rifle.
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Posted: 11/28/2015 9:23:22 PM EDT
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I have a Tavor and a couple of AR's. The AR is still my go to gun partly because of familiarity and partly because it's so adaptable with aftermarket components.
That said, the Tavor is reliable, incredibly compact and it slings well. Although it's heavier than my AR the weight is further back and it is well balanced and easier to shoot offhand. My advice is to handle the rifle at the shop and make sure it feels right... that the length of pull and grips are comfortable for you because you can't change them later. 
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Posted: 11/28/2015 10:11:11 PM EDT
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I have several AR-15's and bought a Tavor shortly after they were released. I have no intention of selling my Tavor as it has earned my respect. The Tavor is another tool in my tool box. If I was working the streets in LE and not retired I would use my Tavor instead of the AR-15 I used to carry. Now that I think about it, I haven't shot my old duty rifle since buying my Tavor. I have shot my Tavor quite a bit and it is a keeper. Thie Tavor was my first and only Bullpup which is as compact as a lot of SBR's without the NFA hassles.
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Posted: 11/29/2015 1:22:13 AM EDT
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AUG vs Tavor is a tough one. The AUG has more flexibility than the Tavor, but the Tavor is simpler and more trooper proof. Which is better depends on which style you Ike more.
Either one is a well made, well designed rifle. AJ |
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Posted: 11/29/2015 2:19:55 AM EDT
[#11]
I love mine!
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Posted: 11/29/2015 10:15:03 AM EDT
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With a good aftermarket trigger (I have the TAV-D) the Tavor is very nice. OEM trigger, at least on my very early model, is criminally deficient. The M4 Carbine remains my "go to" rifle (except in New York) though due to intimate familiarization with that system over the years and the significant differences in line of sight vs trajectory between the two systems. Tavor requires significant hold-over at close ranges (under 50 meters).
The difference in length of pull is obvious in the photos below. I don't consider it a problem as the hands end up right about where they do when firing a pistol. I have a Tavor because it's compact and has a long enough barrel for good downrange terminal ballistics. 16" Tavor is more compact than an 10" AR15 even with a longer Smith Enterprise flash suppressor. 
Both these 5.56mm NATO rifles have 16" barrels: 
-- Chuck |
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Posted: 11/29/2015 10:31:51 AM EDT
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I have one as my go to rifle. I would echo everything others said here. The stock trigget is not my favorite, I also got tav-d. It's incredibly easy to upgrade that, literally a drop in part.
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Posted: 11/29/2015 1:25:45 PM EDT
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The Tavor is a solid rifle, and should be plenty reliable. As someone mentioned, there's a good # of them out there, and very few with 'real' issues.
I prefer the AUG, but shoot a fair amount with a buddy with a Tavor he'd picked up, and it's been reliable since day 1. The only 'negative' on the Tavor is the aforementioned holdover due to height over bore many people wind up running on the optic (risers/mounts) to get a solid cheek weld. If you're running something like a more forward mounted EoTech or RDS, it may not impact you, but neither my buddy nor myself could shoot the Tavor w/a variable mag. optic without a riser...which winds up ~4" height over bore, vs ~2.5" for the AR (or AUG). Doesn't seem like much, but if you're running barricades in training classes or 3 guns, or doing partially obstructed (e.g. no shoot in front) head shots at 25 yards...it may cause some grief. The height over bore difference itself can be trained around, the barricade drills or night shooting w/barricades all depend on the height of the openings.. |
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Posted: 11/30/2015 12:53:35 AM EDT
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Tha Tavor and AUG are military grade infantry rifles...
They "both" could handle pretty much anything you could throw at them. I bought my first AUG in the late 80's and currently own an A3 - ... Then came along a Tavor one afternoon at my dealer. Between the two....? Tavor |
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Posted: 12/1/2015 11:16:17 PM EDT
[#16]
Thanks for all the info everyone. I ended up going for it, just picked up my new Tavor tonight after work. Sure seems like a sweet piece, I can't wait to get to the range to see how it really handles. Thanks again for all the help everyone.
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Posted: 12/4/2015 4:04:38 PM EDT
[#17]
edited for irrevelence as O.p pulled the trigger. Great price O.P enjoy.
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Posted: 12/4/2015 4:29:53 PM EDT
[#18]
Well, range day is tomorrow and I have realized that my current optics for my AR don't really work out too well on my new Tavor, with the difference in the flip up sights. What riser does everyone use for a nice co-witness with the factory flip ups? I have a cheap Bushnell TRS 25 that I want to use til I get my new ACOG, but can't get a nice sight picture without a riser. So, new question is what do you all run for optics, and what riser for your red dots accordingly?
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Posted: 12/4/2015 4:44:16 PM EDT
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That's a smokin deal on the price!
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Posted: 12/4/2015 6:59:46 PM EDT
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Well, range day is tomorrow and I have realized that my current optics for my AR don't really work out too well on my new Tavor, with the difference in the flip up sights. What riser does everyone use for a nice co-witness with the factory flip ups? I have a cheap Bushnell TRS 25 that I want to use til I get my new ACOG, but can't get a nice sight picture without a riser. So, new question is what do you all run for optics, and what riser for your red dots accordingly? Here's my Tavor with my Mepro 21. I also have a Bushnell TRS-25 with the Hi-Rise mount (it came with the TRS-25). I mounted the TRS-25 directly in front of my Mepro 21 so you can see how it lines up. The Mepro 21 co-witesses perfectly with factory iron sights. 
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Posted: 12/5/2015 11:56:48 AM EDT
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Well, range day is tomorrow and I have realized that my current optics for my AR don't really work out too well on my new Tavor, with the difference in the flip up sights. What riser does everyone use for a nice co-witness with the factory flip ups? I have a cheap Bushnell TRS 25 that I want to use til I get my new ACOG, but can't get a nice sight picture without a riser. So, new question is what do you all run for optics, and what riser for your red dots accordingly? The Tavor needs a 1/3 lower AR-15 height mount to be absolute co-witness with Tavor. I'm using an EO Tech 512 on a YHM mount that give lower 1/3 co-witness on an AR-15. This setup or the EO Techs with built in riser work great on the Tavor. I have a 1" RRA one piece scope mount with a Tasco 2.5-10 scope that I have used on my Tavor. Midwest industry sells several different lengths of rails to give the Tavot the same height as the AR-15. The meprolight Tru-Dot works perfectly as do the Vortex SPARC II or Strikefire II. Before you buy an ACOG you might read over on the bullpup forum and find a suitable mount for the ACOG which will work with the Tavor. The Tavor top rail is not a true picatinney rail and does not play well with Larue mounts because of the Tavor's rail center groove. |
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Posted: 12/5/2015 2:35:09 PM EDT
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The Tavor needs a 1/3 lower AR-15 height mount to be absolute co-witness with Tavor. I'm using an EO Tech 512 on a YHM mount that give lower 1/3 co-witness on an AR-15. This setup or the EO Techs with built in riser work great on the Tavor. I have a 1" RRA one piece scope mount with a Tasco 2.5-10 scope that I have used on my Tavor. Midwest industry sells several different lengths of rails to give the Tavot the same height as the AR-15. The meprolight Tru-Dot works perfectly as do the Vortex SPARC II or Strikefire II. Before you buy an ACOG you might read over on the bullpup forum and find a suitable mount for the ACOG which will work with the Tavor. The Tavor top rail is not a true picatinney rail and does not play well with Larue mounts because of the Tavor's rail center groove. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Well, range day is tomorrow and I have realized that my current optics for my AR don't really work out too well on my new Tavor, with the difference in the flip up sights. What riser does everyone use for a nice co-witness with the factory flip ups? I have a cheap Bushnell TRS 25 that I want to use til I get my new ACOG, but can't get a nice sight picture without a riser. So, new question is what do you all run for optics, and what riser for your red dots accordingly? The Tavor needs a 1/3 lower AR-15 height mount to be absolute co-witness with Tavor. I'm using an EO Tech 512 on a YHM mount that give lower 1/3 co-witness on an AR-15. This setup or the EO Techs with built in riser work great on the Tavor. I have a 1" RRA one piece scope mount with a Tasco 2.5-10 scope that I have used on my Tavor. Midwest industry sells several different lengths of rails to give the Tavot the same height as the AR-15. The meprolight Tru-Dot works perfectly as do the Vortex SPARC II or Strikefire II. Before you buy an ACOG you might read over on the bullpup forum and find a suitable mount for the ACOG which will work with the Tavor. The Tavor top rail is not a true picatinney rail and does not play well with Larue mounts because of the Tavor's rail center groove. Why would that make a difference with a Larue mount? |
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Posted: 12/5/2015 2:47:19 PM EDT
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The quick release on the Larue mount gets worn by the center groove in the Tavor top rail. Milspec Picatinney rails do not have a groove in the center running the length of the rail parallel to the bore like the Tavor's rail. There have been numerous discussions on the bullpupforum why IWI chose this particular rail. I think there is info on the Larue sight in regards to the Tavor rail not being compatiable with Larue mounts. To my knowledge Larue is the only mounts with this particular problem.
Hopefully a Tavor forum member who has used an ACOG can chime in on mounts for ACOG. The mount is just an issue to be aware of and buy accordingly. The only real modification/accessories I've made to my Tavor is I added a Tactical light, Geissele Super Sabra and a sling swivel stud in the hole on the front handguard. I use a 2 point sling and my EO Tech 512 on a YHM mount and my Tavor gets used a lot. |
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Posted: 12/5/2015 6:43:42 PM EDT
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I'll have to keep an eye on mine. I looked over on the bullpup forums and saw some pictures of a damaged mount. Hard to believe the recoil of a 5.56 did that damage on a properly adjusted mount.
600rds with no problems. |
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Posted: 12/9/2015 1:30:45 PM EDT
[#25]
I repeat myself, but you can't go wrong with either one.
Slight nod to the Tavor for the safety lever vs: crossbolt on the AUG. As an added bonus, forty round magazines work much better in a bullpup because it is tucked in tight to the body. |
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Posted: 12/11/2015 12:25:46 AM EDT
[#26]
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I repeat myself, but you can't go wrong with either one. Slight nod to the Tavor for the safety lever vs: crossbolt on the AUG. As an added bonus, forty round magazines work much better in a bullpup because it is tucked in tight to the body. Picked my Tavor up a few days ago, now I'm looking for a good optic for on top. I'm really considering grabbing an ACOG, but I am worried about mounting it, just cause of the different design of the factory rail. Thoughts anyone? |
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Posted: 12/11/2015 3:49:10 AM EDT
[#27]
I'm partial to the Primary Arms CQB, as a do-all general purpose fixed power 2.5X
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Posted: 12/11/2015 1:50:34 PM EDT
[#28]
I tried several different optics: leupold 1-4, aimpoint pro, eotech exps 2 and didn't love any of them on the Tavor. Settled on a vortex spitfire 3x. Works great on the tavor. Included mount is good height. Nice eye relief. No, it is not an ACOG, but for the price it is great.
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Posted: 12/11/2015 2:14:40 PM EDT
[#29]
My Tavor runs like a sewing machine. Never a problem and will digest anything I put in it. I have about 4000 rounds thru mine and no issues to speak of at all. Half of the rounds were suppressed.
I spoke with the IWI folks in Harrisburg a few weeks ago. I was asking about spare parts etc. The rep told me they had a Tavor that they had run 7500 rounds thru without cleaning. No issues. He said someone cleaned it by accident after 7500 so they had to start the count all over again. They wanted to run it to failure to see how long it lasts w/o cleaning. Also said Tavor's in the IDF run 20,000 rounds or more before barrels are changed out and more extensive PM is performed. Pretty darn durable. |
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Posted: 12/13/2015 2:15:10 PM EDT
[#30]
I really liked my Steyr AUG that I had back in the late 80's. I had lots of accessories for several configurations and even got to shoot mine with borrowed FA trigger pack at a MG shoot in OR. But I sold all of it by the mid 90's.
Now I love my Tavor! -current set up as of today- 
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Posted: 12/13/2015 7:20:23 PM EDT
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I really liked my Steyr AUG that I had back in the late 80's. I had lots of accessories for several configurations and even got to shoot mine with borrowed FA trigger pack at a MG shoot in OR. But I sold all of it by the mid 90's. Now I love my Tavor! -current set up as of today- http://i.imgur.com/2gT4Ucv.jpg http://i.imgur.com/Tbfa56a.jpg http://i.imgur.com/opahspj.jpg Nice, like the Tavor in black best. What kinda groups you get with the scope? |
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Posted: 12/15/2015 10:41:03 AM EDT
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Nice, like the Tavor in black best. What kinda groups you get with the scope? I have not had that setup out to the range yet. Really looking forward to 100 and 200 yard results with the 16x + Omega. Also, lots of testing to find the ammo it groups best with. Great time of the year for the range. |
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Posted: 12/16/2015 12:05:56 AM EDT
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The Tavor is extremely reliable and basically does what it was designed for.
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Posted: 12/16/2015 1:24:58 AM EDT
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I have not had that setup out to the range yet. Really looking forward to 100 and 200 yard results with the 16x + Omega. Also, lots of testing to find the ammo it groups best with. Great time of the year for the range. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Nice, like the Tavor in black best. What kinda groups you get with the scope? I have not had that setup out to the range yet. Really looking forward to 100 and 200 yard results with the 16x + Omega. Also, lots of testing to find the ammo it groups best with. Great time of the year for the range. Nice looking setup. Looking forward to seeing your range reports. I've always thought of the Tavor as a CQB weapon and it would be great to have some info on how it performs at longer distances. |
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Posted: 12/16/2015 5:25:36 PM EDT
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Nice looking setup. Looking forward to seeing your range reports. I've always thought of the Tavor as a CQB weapon and it would be great to have some info on how it performs at longer distances. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Nice, like the Tavor in black best. What kinda groups you get with the scope? I have not had that setup out to the range yet. Really looking forward to 100 and 200 yard results with the 16x + Omega. Also, lots of testing to find the ammo it groups best with. Great time of the year for the range. Nice looking setup. Looking forward to seeing your range reports. I've always thought of the Tavor as a CQB weapon and it would be great to have some info on how it performs at longer distances. As you would expect from a long-stroke piston rifle with a non-free floating barrel |
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Posted: 12/16/2015 10:43:42 PM EDT
[#36]
2.5-3MOA groups from mine.
Not as good as a typical AR, but better than the average AK in the same caliber. AJ |
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Posted: 12/17/2015 10:02:27 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/18/2015 3:40:03 PM EDT
[#38]
That is a great price. I think I've gotten to a point with the Tavor that it is a must to be paired with the Geissele Lightning Bow and Super Sabra trigger pack. I am not a trigger fanatic, but Geissele has figured it out for the Tavor and the Tavor trigger is aweful without it... and I own an FS2000.It is clearly a well made, compact, reliable rifle and a great alternative to the AR line.
For me the Tavor is my 3rd string go to rifle (2nd string if we are talking 5.56 only). |
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Posted: 12/18/2015 11:52:29 PM EDT
[#39]
What a deal, I wish I got mine for that price. But I don't regret getting my Tavor 2 months ago. Just got an optic for it that will get range test next week.
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Posted: 12/26/2015 2:33:12 AM EDT
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Wife got me a Tavor for Christmas. What optics do you guys like? I was thinking the Mepro M21. I saw that I get a 20% discount from the mako group on Mepro sights. So does anybody have the Tru-Dot and M21 and tell me which one you like better? What reticle on the M21?
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Posted: 12/26/2015 1:19:17 PM EDT
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Wife got me a Tavor for Christmas. What optics do you guys like? I was thinking the Mepro M21. I saw that I get a 20% discount from the mako group on Mepro sights. So does anybody have the Tru-Dot and M21 and tell me which one you like better? What reticle on the M21? I have seriously considered buying the TruDot Red Dot Sight and if I was buying an M-21 it would be thr triangle reticle. A lot of guys on my PD were running Trijicon reflex sights and the hands down favorite had the triangle. The bullseye reticle covers to much target at distance whereas at distance you can get precise aim using the tip of the triangle. The single dot M-21 use 4 or 5 MOA dots IIRC wheras I prefer the 1.8 MOA dot of the TruDot RDS. I also like the clear window of the TruDot versus the blue tint on the M-21. |
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Posted: 12/26/2015 3:22:29 PM EDT
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Thanks VASCAR2, that helps a lot!
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Posted: 12/27/2015 10:49:21 AM EDT
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I have seriously considered buying the TruDot Red Dot Sight and if I was buying an M-21 it would be thr triangle reticle. A lot of guys on my PD were running Trijicon reflex sights and the hands down favorite had the triangle. The bullseye reticle covers to much target at distance whereas at distance you can get precise aim using the tip of the triangle. The single dot M-21 use 4 or 5 MOA dots IIRC wheras I prefer the 1.8 MOA dot of the TruDot RDS. I also like the clear window of the TruDot versus the blue tint on the M-21. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Wife got me a Tavor for Christmas. What optics do you guys like? I was thinking the Mepro M21. I saw that I get a 20% discount from the mako group on Mepro sights. So does anybody have the Tru-Dot and M21 and tell me which one you like better? What reticle on the M21? I have seriously considered buying the TruDot Red Dot Sight and if I was buying an M-21 it would be thr triangle reticle. A lot of guys on my PD were running Trijicon reflex sights and the hands down favorite had the triangle. The bullseye reticle covers to much target at distance whereas at distance you can get precise aim using the tip of the triangle. The single dot M-21 use 4 or 5 MOA dots IIRC wheras I prefer the 1.8 MOA dot of the TruDot RDS. I also like the clear window of the TruDot versus the blue tint on the M-21. If the truedot had the Eotech circle dot like option I would try one out. I am going to wait for the Hartman reflex optic to come out until I decide what is going to replace my Eotech. |
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Posted: 12/27/2015 10:57:24 AM EDT
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2.5-3MOA groups from mine. Not as good as a typical AR, but better than the average AK in the same caliber. AJ About what I have experienced with the Tavor which is in line with its design and intended use. The RDB doesnt do much better. |
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Posted: 12/27/2015 11:22:11 AM EDT
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$1500 is a great price for a Tavor. This and I finally made it to the range with me mine for the first time. Could be one of my favorite rifles. If you do buy it get the Geissele trigger for it. 
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Posted: 12/27/2015 11:31:49 AM EDT
[#46]
So much Tavor hotness in here, makes me want one...
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Posted: 12/27/2015 11:18:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So much Tavor hotness in here, makes me want one...  Going with OD Green. In the dark/shade it almost looks gray, I like it and I'm tired of FDE errrrrrrythangggggg lol |
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Posted: 12/28/2015 12:21:35 AM EDT
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I bought 1 back in august, slightly used. The guy bought it and carried it to the range. When he got home wife made him take it back. His loss was my gain. Current set up is aimpoint pro, and a saker. Just got a vtac sling for Christmas.
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Posted: 1/1/2016 1:30:08 AM EDT
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Love my Tavor, one of my favorite guns to shoot. |
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Posted: 1/1/2016 8:45:02 AM EDT
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Is the Tavor as well built and functional as the guy behind the counter stated? I don't own one and haven't fired one, but: 1) In a decade, it'll be regarded as collectible as the preban Galil ARM is today. 2) Like the Galil ARM, replacement parts will be hard to find, possibly nearing unobtanium. 3) If there were any significant reliability problems with the Tavor, you'd already be hearing about them. 4) Choosing either the AUG or Tavor is a good decision. 5) Get them while you can. See #1, above. |
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