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Posted: 3/10/2015 8:34:26 PM EDT
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Been trying to get a full answer on this, I'm in the market for a Tavor, but am wondering if I should wait if they plan to evolve the regular Tavor into the X95. Is this happening or is it just for a SBR model? It will be a while before you see the X95 on the market. If you want a Tavor now buy a Tavor. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 3/10/2015 9:23:51 PM EDT
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Supposedly late this year, and itll be title 1 length first (extended HG and BBL)
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Posted: 3/10/2015 9:54:48 PM EDT
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Supposedly late this year, and itll be title 1 length first (extended HG and BBL) The IWI rep at Shotshow 2015 said end of the year 2015. That usually means summer of 2016. |
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Posted: 3/10/2015 10:17:54 PM EDT
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Supposedly late this year, and itll be title 1 length first (extended HG and BBL) The IWI rep at Shotshow 2015 said end of the year 2015. That usually means summer of 2016. Gun writers might get their review units by then. Us normal people... AJ |
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Posted: 3/11/2015 12:30:03 AM EDT
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Supposedly late this year, and itll be title 1 length first (extended HG and BBL) The IWI rep at Shotshow 2015 said end of the year 2015. That usually means summer of 2016. Which rep said that? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 3/11/2015 2:34:36 PM EDT
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Supposedly late this year, and itll be title 1 length first (extended HG and BBL) The IWI rep at Shotshow 2015 said end of the year 2015. That usually means summer of 2016. Which rep said that? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile https://bullpupforum.com/index.php?topic=7441.0 From the man himself |
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Posted: 3/11/2015 3:43:02 PM EDT
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Supposedly late this year, and itll be title 1 length first (extended HG and BBL) The IWI rep at Shotshow 2015 said end of the year 2015. That usually means summer of 2016. Which rep said that? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile https://bullpupforum.com/index.php?topic=7441.0 From the man himself Interesting, in November 2014 he told me 2-3 years out. I didnt even think to ask him When we met with him at SHOT 2015, guess they moved up the release date by about a year. Sven Manticore Arms Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 3/11/2015 4:16:48 PM EDT
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Look for the semi-auto version of the X95 (non-SBR) by year end. Will you eventually make an SBR version available for civilian purchase? Yes Oh boy oh boy!!! I can't wait. I desperately need more stamps but I'm good on cans. I've been looking for a nice factory SBR and nothing really looks all that appealing, except the prospect of an X95. 16" X95 by year end, so realistically sometime early 2016... so hopefully end of 2016 we'll get the real deal SBR?? Seems a long way off but I can wait. |
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Posted: 3/11/2015 6:13:06 PM EDT
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Oh boy oh boy!!! I can't wait. I desperately need more stamps but I'm good on cans. I've been looking for a nice factory SBR and nothing really looks all that appealing, except the prospect of an X95. 16" X95 by year end, so realistically sometime early 2016... so hopefully end of 2016 we'll get the real deal SBR?? Seems a long way off but I can wait. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Look for the semi-auto version of the X95 (non-SBR) by year end. Will you eventually make an SBR version available for civilian purchase? Yes Oh boy oh boy!!! I can't wait. I desperately need more stamps but I'm good on cans. I've been looking for a nice factory SBR and nothing really looks all that appealing, except the prospect of an X95. 16" X95 by year end, so realistically sometime early 2016... so hopefully end of 2016 we'll get the real deal SBR?? Seems a long way off but I can wait. Have one regular, and one SBR 
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Posted: 3/12/2015 4:28:02 PM EDT
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Have one regular, and one SBR
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Look for the semi-auto version of the X95 (non-SBR) by year end. Will you eventually make an SBR version available for civilian purchase? Yes Oh boy oh boy!!! I can't wait. I desperately need more stamps but I'm good on cans. I've been looking for a nice factory SBR and nothing really looks all that appealing, except the prospect of an X95. 16" X95 by year end, so realistically sometime early 2016... so hopefully end of 2016 we'll get the real deal SBR?? Seems a long way off but I can wait. Have one regular, and one SBR
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Posted: 3/12/2015 6:35:21 PM EDT
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Hopefully it won't be any more costly than the Tavor. I assume they will continue to sell both side by side? Truthfully, if the issues with the X95 are worked out, it seems like it is better in just about every way than the original. But having both is always nice for collectors.
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Posted: 3/12/2015 7:24:06 PM EDT
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Other than the mag release, what's better about the X95? Not trying to be a dick, but I think the Tavor is the better looking of the two and heard the X95 had issues??
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Posted: 3/12/2015 7:27:48 PM EDT
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Other than the mag release, what's better about the X95? Not trying to be a dick, but I think the Tavor is the better looking of the two and heard the X95 had issues?? That obviously biased X95 review from the other site is never going to die i swear. The X95 and Tavor share the majority of their parts, and the internals are all the same. Why would moving the charging handle and mag release suddenly cause a gun to have issues? |
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Posted: 3/12/2015 7:34:36 PM EDT
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That's fair, and I'm not judging. I don't own either living in CT so have no first hand knowledge and own guns like the US made Sig 556 Swiss that everyone else thinks suck but I love. Is the closer charging handle more comfy? I can't help that I think the Tavor "Looks" better in my eyes, but interested in the benefits to the X95
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Posted: 3/14/2015 1:16:51 AM EDT
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That's fair, and I'm not judging. I don't own either living in CT so have no first hand knowledge and own guns like the US made Sig 556 Swiss that everyone else thinks suck but I love. Is the closer charging handle more comfy? I can't help that I think the Tavor "Looks" better in my eyes, but interested in the benefits to the X95 X95 benefits: Shorter LOP (no more big buttpad) Mag release like an AR Lighter (if SBR) really short OAL Bolt drop button is not so huge Interchangeable grip (Tavor style or normal PG) |
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Posted: 3/27/2015 6:23:21 PM EDT
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X95 benefits:
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Posted: 3/27/2015 7:21:35 PM EDT
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That obviously biased X95 review from the other site is never going to die i swear. The X95 and Tavor share the majority of their parts, and the internals are all the same. Why would moving the charging handle and mag release suddenly cause a gun to have issues? What biased review are you talking about? |
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Posted: 4/13/2015 10:35:10 AM EDT
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Posted: 4/13/2015 11:14:02 AM EDT
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I believe that IDF have stop buying new Tavor for a while. The Tavor production line is still running for make commercial variant and for foreign military such as the Thai Army and Indian military contract. At least one Indian Airborne division and an independent airborne brigade are start buying Tavor to replace their POS INSAS. |
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Posted: 4/13/2015 3:09:21 PM EDT
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That obviously biased X95 review from the other site is never going to die i swear. The X95 and Tavor share the majority of their parts, and the internals are all the same. Why would moving the charging handle and mag release suddenly cause a gun to have issues? What biased review are you talking about? Review was by an IDF guy... is that biased? |
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Posted: 4/13/2015 3:17:02 PM EDT
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That obviously biased X95 review from the other site is never going to die i swear. The X95 and Tavor share the majority of their parts, and the internals are all the same. Why would moving the charging handle and mag release suddenly cause a gun to have issues? What biased review are you talking about? Review was by an IDF guy... is that biased? I would need to read the review before I can judge that. Was it biased? Probably. Ask 20 us army soldiers how they view the M4 and you'll get plenty of differing opinions and conflicting reports. One review should never be taken as if it were the definitive report. |
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Posted: 4/13/2015 9:54:57 PM EDT
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Got this in my mailbox the their day. Looks like 95 will be out fall.
Damn an I was just about to pull the trigger on the tavor http://www.gunsamerica.com/blog/hiding-in-plain-sight-at-the-iwi-booth-nra-2015/ |
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Posted: 4/13/2015 10:40:13 PM EDT
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I was about to buy the Tavor 9mm conversion kit. I called IWI today after seeing that article. I was told that the 9mm conversion kits were not interchangeable between the Tavor and the x95 so you will need a different 9mm conversion kit for the x95.
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Posted: 4/13/2015 11:31:44 PM EDT
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I would need to read the review before I can judge that. Was it biased? Probably. Ask 20 us army soldiers how they view the M4 and you'll get plenty of differing opinions and conflicting reports. One review should never be taken as if it were the definitive report. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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That obviously biased X95 review from the other site is never going to die i swear. The X95 and Tavor share the majority of their parts, and the internals are all the same. Why would moving the charging handle and mag release suddenly cause a gun to have issues? What biased review are you talking about? Review was by an IDF guy... is that biased? I would need to read the review before I can judge that. Was it biased? Probably. Ask 20 us army soldiers how they view the M4 and you'll get plenty of differing opinions and conflicting reports. One review should never be taken as if it were the definitive report. I guess you have a point... but its the only one out there and its pretty in depth. From fit and finish to ergos... accuracy , weight... etc. Didn't come off like a guy with an ideological agenda |
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Posted: 4/14/2015 9:57:30 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryGreat article and info! Wish there was more mention of SBR release and pricing. This thing sounds like a winner. All of the features we would expect, and it doesn't sound like they're arbitrarily raising the price on us over the SAR. I've toyed around with the idea of a factory AR SBR, short barrel SCAR 16, or swapping barrel on a PS90, etc, but each one has its drawbacks. This is the real-deal, from the factory, needs nothing, and is a truly tiny package but with full power ammo. No drawbacks besides the pricetag and the wait. It's going to be a long year... |
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Posted: 4/15/2015 4:58:26 PM EDT
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The guy who was quoted in the GunsAmerica story may have been a bit optimistic. First quarter of 2015 at the earliest for the civilian version of the X95 (will be designated the X95 SAR).
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Posted: 4/15/2015 5:49:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The guy who was quoted in the GunsAmerica story may have been a bit optimistic. First quarter of 2015 at the earliest for the civilian version of the X95 (will be designated the X95 SAR). Will factory SBRs be offered? Or at least short barrels? |
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Posted: 4/15/2015 7:05:24 PM EDT
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The guy who was quoted in the GunsAmerica story may have been a bit optimistic. First quarter of 2015 at the earliest for the civilian version of the X95 (will be designated the X95 SAR). Thanks for the update. I assume yall meant 2016? Can we assume the left hand model (or at least lefty conversion service) will be offered at the same time Also. Will the handguard be the length as seen at the NRA show. Id vote for those over longer versions despite the barrel length. The SBR people could then just get their barrel chopped at ADCO and people who wanted more rail space anyway would probably be happier with the original tavor. |
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Posted: 4/16/2015 9:36:15 AM EDT
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WE WANT A FACTORY SBR.
Chopping barrels is for the birds. I also don't want to purchase two barrels. |
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Posted: 4/16/2015 9:18:32 PM EDT
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The guy who was quoted in the GunsAmerica story may have been a bit optimistic. First quarter of 2015 at the earliest for the civilian version of the X95 (will be designated the X95 SAR). This is the first quarter of 2015 
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Posted: 4/17/2015 8:45:53 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: WE WANT A FACTORY SBR. Chopping barrels is for the birds. I also don't want to purchase two barrels. Like the 18" or 21" options for the SAR, and then similarly the factory SBR length for customers who've jumped through the hoops? I would imagine that IWI might release 5.56 barrels as replacements for people buying dedicated 9mm rifles, so why not just do the above, while they're at it? |
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Posted: 4/17/2015 2:18:42 PM EDT
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What about factory replacement barrels? Like the 18" or 21" options for the SAR, and then similarly the factory SBR length for customers who've jumped through the hoops? I would imagine that IWI might release 5.56 barrels as replacements for people buying dedicated 9mm rifles, so why not just do the above, while they're at it? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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WE WANT A FACTORY SBR. Chopping barrels is for the birds. I also don't want to purchase two barrels. Like the 18" or 21" options for the SAR, and then similarly the factory SBR length for customers who've jumped through the hoops? I would imagine that IWI might release 5.56 barrels as replacements for people buying dedicated 9mm rifles, so why not just do the above, while they're at it? Yeah SBR should be a factory option alongside the 16" option. Order it from my dealer, pay for the stamp, pick it up a few months later. Easy peasy, and you get the satisfaction/peace of mind/warm and fuzzies of a factory stock rifle with no stories. On the other hand, a factory replacement barrel requires you to own two barrels. Drawbacks include, but are not limited to: 1) You have to wait for factory barrels to be offered (which may never happen). 2) A new barrel will cost at least $600, maybe even $800 or more. I think SCAR barrel assemblies are a grand. 3) Barrel should be easy to swap, but if not, it's going to require a gunsmith (extra cost). 4) You have to get the gun engraved because it's not a factory SBR (extra cost). 5) What the hell do you do with the old barrel? I'd have no use for it. Not a big market for second-hand factory-length barrels. Lord knows I don't need any more superfluous gun parts laying around. etc. All said and done, a replacement barrel option could easily double the cost of the rifle. Factory SBR is just the extra cost of the stamp for a product that is 100% perfect from the manufacturer. |
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Posted: 4/17/2015 5:02:55 PM EDT
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The guy who was quoted in the GunsAmerica story may have been a bit optimistic. First quarter of 2015 at the earliest for the civilian version of the X95 (will be designated the X95 SAR). Yes, though when we can't yet say. |
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Posted: 4/18/2015 2:22:10 AM EDT
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It will be a while before you see the X95 on the market. If you want a Tavor now buy a Tavor. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Been trying to get a full answer on this, I'm in the market for a Tavor, but am wondering if I should wait if they plan to evolve the regular Tavor into the X95. Is this happening or is it just for a SBR model? It will be a while before you see the X95 on the market. If you want a Tavor now buy a Tavor. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Indeed. The Tavor is a mighty fine weapon. |
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Posted: 4/18/2015 11:06:37 AM EDT
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Will both of these be offered or just the large trigger guard version?
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Posted: 4/18/2015 9:26:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah SBR should be a factory option alongside the 16" option. Order it from my dealer, pay for the stamp, pick it up a few months later. Easy peasy, and you get the satisfaction/peace of mind/warm and fuzzies of a factory stock rifle with no stories. On the other hand, a factory replacement barrel requires you to own two barrels. Drawbacks include, but are not limited to: 1) You have to wait for factory barrels to be offered (which may never happen). 2) A new barrel will cost at least $600, maybe even $800 or more. I think SCAR barrel assemblies are a grand. 3) Barrel should be easy to swap, but if not, it's going to require a gunsmith (extra cost). 4) You have to get the gun engraved because it's not a factory SBR (extra cost). 5) What the hell do you do with the old barrel? I'd have no use for it. Not a big market for second-hand factory-length barrels. Lord knows I don't need any more superfluous gun parts laying around. etc. All said and done, a replacement barrel option could easily double the cost of the rifle. Factory SBR is just the extra cost of the stamp for a product that is 100% perfect from the manufacturer. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: WE WANT A FACTORY SBR. Chopping barrels is for the birds. I also don't want to purchase two barrels. Like the 18" or 21" options for the SAR, and then similarly the factory SBR length for customers who've jumped through the hoops? I would imagine that IWI might release 5.56 barrels as replacements for people buying dedicated 9mm rifles, so why not just do the above, while they're at it? Yeah SBR should be a factory option alongside the 16" option. Order it from my dealer, pay for the stamp, pick it up a few months later. Easy peasy, and you get the satisfaction/peace of mind/warm and fuzzies of a factory stock rifle with no stories. On the other hand, a factory replacement barrel requires you to own two barrels. Drawbacks include, but are not limited to: 1) You have to wait for factory barrels to be offered (which may never happen). 2) A new barrel will cost at least $600, maybe even $800 or more. I think SCAR barrel assemblies are a grand. 3) Barrel should be easy to swap, but if not, it's going to require a gunsmith (extra cost). 4) You have to get the gun engraved because it's not a factory SBR (extra cost). 5) What the hell do you do with the old barrel? I'd have no use for it. Not a big market for second-hand factory-length barrels. Lord knows I don't need any more superfluous gun parts laying around. etc. All said and done, a replacement barrel option could easily double the cost of the rifle. Factory SBR is just the extra cost of the stamp for a product that is 100% perfect from the manufacturer. |
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Posted: 4/19/2015 1:04:18 AM EDT
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Will both of these be offered or just the large trigger guard version? https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8414/8783679493_050884b236_b.jpg I'm pretty sure they're usable swappable. If IWI offers them for sale you can pick which one you like. |
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Posted: 4/20/2015 2:06:37 PM EDT
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SBR X95 in 300BLK might just be the most perfect weapon currently available to the civilian community.
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Posted: 4/20/2015 4:32:08 PM EDT
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I'm pretty sure they're usable swappable. If IWI offers them for sale you can pick which one you like. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Will both of these be offered or just the large trigger guard version? https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8414/8783679493_050884b236_b.jpg I'm pretty sure they're usable swappable. If IWI offers them for sale you can pick which one you like. The trigger guard is interchangeable and the guns will come with both types. |
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Posted: 4/20/2015 4:32:49 PM EDT
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Will both of these be offered or just the large trigger guard version? https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8414/8783679493_050884b236_b.jpg Trigger guard is interchangeable and the guns will come with both types. 
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Posted: 4/20/2015 5:00:50 PM EDT
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I wish they had a more comfortable cheek weld area like the AUG
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Posted: 4/20/2015 5:19:26 PM EDT
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The guy who was quoted in the GunsAmerica story may have been a bit optimistic. First quarter of 2015 at the earliest for the civilian version of the X95 (will be designated the X95 SAR). This is the first quarter of 2015 Wow, I didn't catch my own typo. Thanks! FIRST QUARTER OF 2016. |
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Posted: 4/20/2015 5:23:04 PM EDT
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The guy who was quoted in the GunsAmerica story may have been a bit optimistic. First quarter of 2015 at the earliest for the civilian version of the X95 (will be designated the X95 SAR). This is the first quarter of 2015 Wow, I didn't catch my own typo. Thanks! FIRST QUARTER OF 2016. Ha Ha When I hit the 2015 I got so so excited .. but 2016 is good also that gives me time to get a ace...
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Posted: 4/20/2015 5:35:51 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/21/2015 7:53:07 PM EDT
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Wow, I didn't catch my own typo. Thanks! FIRST QUARTER OF 2016. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The guy who was quoted in the GunsAmerica story may have been a bit optimistic. First quarter of 2015 at the earliest for the civilian version of the X95 (will be designated the X95 SAR). This is the first quarter of 2015 Wow, I didn't catch my own typo. Thanks! FIRST QUARTER OF 2016. And are you still going to sell the standard Tavors (TAR-21), for people who prefer them? Thanks |
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Posted: 4/21/2015 11:09:16 PM EDT
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The guy who was quoted in the GunsAmerica story may have been a bit optimistic. First quarter of 2015 at the earliest for the civilian version of the X95 (will be designated the X95 SAR). This is the first quarter of 2015 Wow, I didn't catch my own typo. Thanks! FIRST QUARTER OF 2016. And are you still going to sell the standard Tavors (TAR-21), for people who prefer them? Thanks As successful as the standard Tavor has been in the U.S. market, I would not foresee IWI-US dropping it.... |
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Posted: 4/22/2015 11:24:21 AM EDT
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Yeah thread title is bad/misleading... IWI isn't doing away with the Tavor. Two separate products.
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Posted: 5/7/2015 1:46:36 PM EDT
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Will both of these be offered or just the large trigger guard version? https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8414/8783679493_050884b236_b.jpg Neither have much room to get a gloved finger in there. 
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