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Posted: 9/30/2014 9:26:25 PM EDT
so you had to figure it was going to at one point but with recent news we may get it soon
i saw a youtube video yesterday and a iwi salesman said they're now selling x95s to LE but i came across this also http://www.israel-weapon.com/?catid={B85AE7EC-C2D3-4C1D-90D6-A2E007B4F631} now one of the limiting factors is the shortened 13" barrel and it would be a sbr under us law. however this is the first ive seen with a full length barrel i personally would love to get one, i really like the tavors but i hate the mag release, i also believe the x95 allows the grip to be changed (coming from ar's my whole life, these are 2 big things) the x95 has the mag relase more forward so you can drop the mag with your master grip and i know im a spoiled brat but i cannot shoot a gun with poor ergonomics, maybe a range toy but i can't use it for anything else if my hand gets sores on it just from holding it but hopefully we will see some soon |
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Oh baby I hope so if they shoot half as good as they look we all will be happy.. I want sbr version hands down..
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For some reason the link didn't copy.
But look for the flat top X95 and you'll see it |
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I know it is a silly reason to not like something, but the X95 just doesn't have any visual appeal for me at all. It may be the best thing since sliced bread but I don't see myself buying one if it became available.
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I know it is a silly reason to not like something, but the X95 just doesn't have any visual appeal for me at all. It may be the best thing since sliced bread but I don't see myself buying one if it became available. More for the rest of you! View Quote lol true!! it does look like a toaster but i don't really care, im a user/abuser not really a collector |
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Yeah definitely looking forward to the X95.
Factory SBR would be preferred. |
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Im guessing that the X95 will have a 17 inch barrel or as thicker buttpad to bring it to legal OAL.
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Im guessing that the X95 will have a 17 inch barrel or as thicker buttpad to bring it to legal OAL. View Quote Hopefully the smaller stock an 17" barrel. The LOP is a bit too much on a stock tavor. I think the 13" compact version plus a can would be a very fun rig and balanced perfectly. Also aren't these supposed to have a "better" bolt release? |
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Hopefully the smaller stock an 17" barrel. The LOP is a bit too much on a stock tavor. I think the 13" compact version plus a can would be a very fun rig and balanced perfectly. Also aren't these supposed to have a "better" bolt release? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Im guessing that the X95 will have a 17 inch barrel or as thicker buttpad to bring it to legal OAL. Hopefully the smaller stock an 17" barrel. The LOP is a bit too much on a stock tavor. I think the 13" compact version plus a can would be a very fun rig and balanced perfectly. Also aren't these supposed to have a "better" bolt release? i would actually want a 16" barrel, just easier for my legally, i mean its already short enough, im sure they will offer a 16"/17" factory version but they may also offer a 13" factory sbr version |
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I got to run a 60 round mag through it at the Bullpup Convention last weekend. It was pretty sweet. <a href="http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg180/parabellumklr/IWI%20X95.mp4" target="_blank">http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg180/parabellumklr/th_IWI%20X95.jpg</a> View Quote lolloo i need to know more!!! if your able please let us know more details |
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Wow I hated the first pics I saw of that but it doesn't look half bad.
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Heres a pic of a X95L by MAC. On the IWI site, it lists the barrel as 16.5 inches. http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/8783680011_17048ebe3c_o-660x440.jpg View Quote No worries, we can wrap that longer barrel in an X95 ARClight rail in a jiffy! |
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Heres a pic of a X95L by MAC. On the IWI site, it lists the barrel as 16.5 inches. http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/8783680011_17048ebe3c_o-660x440.jpg View Quote Could be wrong but I according to iwi's website the l is for lefty, i think anyways |
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Heres a pic of a X95L by MAC. On the IWI site, it lists the barrel as 16.5 inches. http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/8783680011_17048ebe3c_o-660x440.jpg View Quote That 16.5" version doesn't look bad at all IMO. What will the price be? (probably more expensive than a tavor) and I'm just not sure it will do more than my tavor to justify that kind of price. Maybe once reviews come I will be forced to reconsider. But for now I like my tavor just fine. |
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That 16.5" version doesn't look bad at all IMO. What will the price be? (probably more expensive than a tavor) and I'm just not sure it will do more than my tavor to justify that kind of price. Maybe once reviews come I will be forced to reconsider. But for now I like my tavor just fine. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Heres a pic of a X95L by MAC. On the IWI site, it lists the barrel as 16.5 inches. http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/8783680011_17048ebe3c_o-660x440.jpg That 16.5" version doesn't look bad at all IMO. What will the price be? (probably more expensive than a tavor) and I'm just not sure it will do more than my tavor to justify that kind of price. Maybe once reviews come I will be forced to reconsider. But for now I like my tavor just fine. It probably shares many parts with the regular Tavor. I know that the bolt carrier group are the same on both. So price shouldn't be too bad. You can find tavors nowadays for 1650. One thing about the x95 i like is that you can change out the pistol grip so you can have a regular trigger guard instead of the full fistguard. |
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That 16.5" version doesn't look bad at all IMO. What will the price be? (probably more expensive than a tavor) and I'm just not sure it will do more than my tavor to justify that kind of price. Maybe once reviews come I will be forced to reconsider. But for now I like my tavor just fine. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Heres a pic of a X95L by MAC. On the IWI site, it lists the barrel as 16.5 inches. http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/8783680011_17048ebe3c_o-660x440.jpg That 16.5" version doesn't look bad at all IMO. What will the price be? (probably more expensive than a tavor) and I'm just not sure it will do more than my tavor to justify that kind of price. Maybe once reviews come I will be forced to reconsider. But for now I like my tavor just fine. Ditto. I don't understand the fascination with the AR style mag release. It works great on an AR, yes. But the Tavor's works great as well. Easy to hit to drop the mag. Easier to hit when grabbing the mag to pull it from the action. |
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X95 = 5.56x45, 13"/23", 6.7lb (thats what'll make these great, that will put it at ~9lbs with micro red dot, can, and 20rd mag.
X95L = 5.56x45, 16.5"/26.3", 7.1lb X95R = X95 in 5.45 X95S = 9mm |
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Ditto. I don't understand the fascination with the AR style mag release. It works great on an AR, yes. But the Tavor's works great as well. Easy to hit to drop the mag. Easier to hit when grabbing the mag to pull it from the action. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Heres a pic of a X95L by MAC. On the IWI site, it lists the barrel as 16.5 inches. http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/8783680011_17048ebe3c_o-660x440.jpg That 16.5" version doesn't look bad at all IMO. What will the price be? (probably more expensive than a tavor) and I'm just not sure it will do more than my tavor to justify that kind of price. Maybe once reviews come I will be forced to reconsider. But for now I like my tavor just fine. Ditto. I don't understand the fascination with the AR style mag release. It works great on an AR, yes. But the Tavor's works great as well. Easy to hit to drop the mag. Easier to hit when grabbing the mag to pull it from the action. +1 faster reloads (insert debate here if that matters) but you can reach for a mag while dropping the used one |
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It probably shares many parts with the regular Tavor. I know that the bolt carrier group are the same on both. So price shouldn't be too bad. You can find tavors nowadays for 1650. One thing about the x95 i like is that you can change out the pistol grip so you can have a regular trigger guard instead of the full fistguard. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Heres a pic of a X95L by MAC. On the IWI site, it lists the barrel as 16.5 inches. http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/8783680011_17048ebe3c_o-660x440.jpg That 16.5" version doesn't look bad at all IMO. What will the price be? (probably more expensive than a tavor) and I'm just not sure it will do more than my tavor to justify that kind of price. Maybe once reviews come I will be forced to reconsider. But for now I like my tavor just fine. It probably shares many parts with the regular Tavor. I know that the bolt carrier group are the same on both. So price shouldn't be too bad. You can find tavors nowadays for 1650. One thing about the x95 i like is that you can change out the pistol grip so you can have a regular trigger guard instead of the full fistguard. 100% like i said i can't stand a poor grip or one that just doesn't work with my hand |
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Heres a pic of a X95L by MAC. On the IWI site, it lists the barrel as 16.5 inches. http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/8783680011_17048ebe3c_o-660x440.jpg View Quote Ohohoh....I want so bad! IWI please hurry.. |
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What's all the fuss, what are the main differences between the 95 and the Tavor? Has it been tested to the extent the Tavor has in the real world? Serious questions by the way as I don't know.
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What's all the fuss, what are the main differences between the 95 and the Tavor? Has it been tested to the extent the Tavor has in the real world? Serious questions by the way as I don't know. View Quote The X95 is the current issue for the IDF and is replacing the regular Tavor. |
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It probably shares many parts with the regular Tavor. I know that the bolt carrier group are the same on both. So price shouldn't be too bad. You can find tavors nowadays for 1650. One thing about the x95 i like is that you can change out the pistol grip so you can have a regular trigger guard instead of the full fistguard. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Heres a pic of a X95L by MAC. On the IWI site, it lists the barrel as 16.5 inches. http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/8783680011_17048ebe3c_o-660x440.jpg That 16.5" version doesn't look bad at all IMO. What will the price be? (probably more expensive than a tavor) and I'm just not sure it will do more than my tavor to justify that kind of price. Maybe once reviews come I will be forced to reconsider. But for now I like my tavor just fine. It probably shares many parts with the regular Tavor. I know that the bolt carrier group are the same on both. So price shouldn't be too bad. You can find tavors nowadays for 1650. One thing about the x95 i like is that you can change out the pistol grip so you can have a regular trigger guard instead of the full fistguard. when the tavor first came out i think it was around $1950 so im sure they will put this one at around $2000 and but as time goes on it will drop in price |
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What's all the fuss, what are the main differences between the 95 and the Tavor? Has it been tested to the extent the Tavor has in the real world? Serious questions by the way as I don't know. View Quote tavor is one of the only bullpups which is proven in my book, The IDF has been using tavors for a while. the x95 is replacing tavors for idf it features a shorter overall length and a shorter barrel (TBA for us version) but it also has a ar style mag release and a swapable pistol grip it may have other things different from the tavor but these are what i gathered from various sources |
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tavor is one of the only bullpups which is proven in my book, The IDF has been using tavors for a while. the x95 is replacing tavors for idf Try looking up the Steyr AUG "ONE of the only" so im saying there are some but most aren't proven but the aug is okay, but it has some downfalls |
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Heres a pic of a X95L by MAC. On the IWI site, it lists the barrel as 16.5 inches. http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/8783680011_17048ebe3c_o-660x440.jpg View Quote Oh yeah so beautiful. I would definitely prefer the SBR, that thing is positively tiny considering it's a real rifle caliber. If they started selling them, I would write the check today for at least one, possibly two, and two more checks for the $400 of stamps. Here's another pic from MAC of the X95 in FDE: Link to article: http://www.thebangswitch.com/on-the-range-with-iwi-x95/ |
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Oh yeah so beautiful. I would definitely prefer the SBR, that thing is positively tiny considering it's a real rifle caliber. If they started selling them, I would write the check today for at least one, possibly two, and two more checks for the $400 of stamps. Here's another pic from MAC of the X95 in FDE: https://www_thebangswitch.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/AB3A0904-590x300.jpg Link to article: http://www.thebangswitch.com/on-the-range-with-iwi-x95/ View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Heres a pic of a X95L by MAC. On the IWI site, it lists the barrel as 16.5 inches. http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/8783680011_17048ebe3c_o-660x440.jpg Oh yeah so beautiful. I would definitely prefer the SBR, that thing is positively tiny considering it's a real rifle caliber. If they started selling them, I would write the check today for at least one, possibly two, and two more checks for the $400 of stamps. Here's another pic from MAC of the X95 in FDE: https://www_thebangswitch.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/AB3A0904-590x300.jpg Link to article: http://www.thebangswitch.com/on-the-range-with-iwi-x95/ Must be nice I'm still saving for a scar 17. The scar fund was dipped into for my current tavor, haha. I held one and had to buy one the next day. I just don't see that happening with the X95.... |
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"ONE of the only" so im saying there are some but most aren't proven but the aug is okay, but it has some downfalls View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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tavor is one of the only bullpups which is proven in my book, The IDF has been using tavors for a while. the x95 is replacing tavors for idf Try looking up the Steyr AUG "ONE of the only" so im saying there are some but most aren't proven but the aug is okay, but it has some downfalls Name one ;) I hope IWI doesn't come out with these 9mm tavors or x95's too fast cause I am broke... |
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We know IWI reads this board, so I'm going to come right out and say it.
IWI, DO NOT SCREW THIS UP. GIVE US A FACTORY SBR X95. Back to regularly scheduled programming now. |
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We know IWI reads this board, so I'm going to come right out and say it. IWI, DO NOT SCREW THIS UP. GIVE US A FACTORY SBR X95. Back to regularly scheduled programming now. View Quote I would be fine with the non SBR X-95 as long as they get a good supply of 10.5? Inch barrels that i can purchase. That way i can shoot the rifle while i wait for the stamp. |
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I would be fine with the non SBR X-95 as long as they get a good supply of 10.5? Inch barrels that i can purchase. That way i can shoot the rifle while i wait for the stamp. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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We know IWI reads this board, so I'm going to come right out and say it. IWI, DO NOT SCREW THIS UP. GIVE US A FACTORY SBR X95. Back to regularly scheduled programming now. I would be fine with the non SBR X-95 as long as they get a good supply of 10.5? Inch barrels that i can purchase. That way i can shoot the rifle while i wait for the stamp. The short X95 is 13 inches. If we get one, I plan to sbr. IWI shouldn't have too much trouble. The X95 shares the bolt carrier group and trigger pack as the regular tavor. The X95 is pretty much the same rifle except the mag release, plastic shell, cocking handle, and railed handguard. |
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Name one ;) I hope IWI doesn't come out with these 9mm tavors or x95's too fast cause I am broke... View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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tavor is one of the only bullpups which is proven in my book, The IDF has been using tavors for a while. the x95 is replacing tavors for idf Try looking up the Steyr AUG "ONE of the only" so im saying there are some but most aren't proven but the aug is okay, but it has some downfalls Name one ;) I hope IWI doesn't come out with these 9mm tavors or x95's too fast cause I am broke... Looks like you are boned, IWI announced factory built 9mm Tavors on Monday. |
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Looks like you are boned, IWI announced factory built 9mm Tavors on Monday. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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tavor is one of the only bullpups which is proven in my book, The IDF has been using tavors for a while. the x95 is replacing tavors for idf Try looking up the Steyr AUG "ONE of the only" so im saying there are some but most aren't proven but the aug is okay, but it has some downfalls Name one ;) I hope IWI doesn't come out with these 9mm tavors or x95's too fast cause I am broke... Looks like you are boned, IWI announced factory built 9mm Tavors on Monday. Link? Pricing? |
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I was at the Bullpup Convention in Rockcastle last Saturday and had the opportunity to shoot the X95. In addition, I attended the IWI class at the event on changing ejection from right to left. During the Q&A I asked the director of LE sales about the X95. This is his response word for word:
"I can say this, IWI didn't set up a facility in the US to just produce one weapon. As for the X95 we won't see it for civilian sales for quite awhile." When pressed about what we would see he responded. "I will leave that to [Mike] Kassanar, I will say that you will see some new old stuff coming out soon.' This next part is pure speculation by me: I anticipate IWI will announce the release the Galil ACE at SHOT 2015. My previous conversation in 2013 with Mike Kassanar indicated that he was pushing for the .308 version for US sales, this was before the craziness of the "Great Panic" and as such I believe producing and selling 20,000+ Tavors has delayed this. Sales of Tavors are still brisk and as such it doesn't make much sense for IWI to release another Tavor and essentially compete with themselves. The Galil ACE has a lot of demand as well as the ability to round out IWI US offerings with a possible IDF Galil, Galil ACE Nato, Galil ACE 5.56, Galil ACE .308 and finally a Galil ACE SBR. I predict that this is how it will play out. I also predict that they will wait until sales of the Tavor slow down and then release the X95 as essentially the next evolution of that design, thus maximizing the sale of that platform. Many guys who bought the Tavor will probably also buy the X95 and the release of a X95 will generate a lot of interest back into that platform. -Sgt. Mac |
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They should remove the shoulder stock and put an arm support on the short barrel X95 and call it a pistol....that would sell like hot cakes.
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I have a Tavor. It's a good rifle,
but I am holding out for the MDR. That will probably be my next purchase. The MDR has all the benefits of a Tavor, plus M16 style magazine release, truly ambidextrous forward ejection, and a factory crisp trigger, and a reputation for great accuracy. |
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I have a Tavor. It's a good rifle, but I am holding out for the MDR. That will probably be my next purchase. The MDR has all the benefits of a Tavor, plus M16 style magazine release, truly ambidextrous forward ejection, and a factory crisp trigger, and a reputation for great accuracy. View Quote Interested to see this as well, but the timing could be from next year to infinity. |
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I have a Tavor. It's a good rifle, but I am holding out for the MDR. That will probably be my next purchase. The MDR has all the benefits of a Tavor, plus M16 style magazine release, truly ambidextrous forward ejection, and a factory crisp trigger, and a reputation for great accuracy. Interested to see this as well, but the timing could be from next year to infinity. Same here! A .308 MDR seems way more interesting! |
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Must be nice I'm still saving for a scar 17. The scar fund was dipped into for my current tavor, haha. I held one and had to buy one the next day. I just don't see that happening with the X95.... View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Heres a pic of a X95L by MAC. On the IWI site, it lists the barrel as 16.5 inches. http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/8783680011_17048ebe3c_o-660x440.jpg Oh yeah so beautiful. I would definitely prefer the SBR, that thing is positively tiny considering it's a real rifle caliber. If they started selling them, I would write the check today for at least one, possibly two, and two more checks for the $400 of stamps. Here's another pic from MAC of the X95 in FDE: https://www_thebangswitch.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/AB3A0904-590x300.jpg Link to article: http://www.thebangswitch.com/on-the-range-with-iwi-x95/ Must be nice I'm still saving for a scar 17. The scar fund was dipped into for my current tavor, haha. I held one and had to buy one the next day. I just don't see that happening with the X95.... Hahaha, don't get me wrong, I would be eating cheap and living like a pauper for a few months to make up for it, but something like this would be worth it IMO. My last big purchase was a 17. Been wanting a Tavor since it was announced, but I put it off a little while due to the scar acquisition and once the X95 rumors started to crop up I decided I would wait for it instead. |
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I was at the Bullpup Convention in Rockcastle last Saturday and had the opportunity to shoot the X95. In addition, I attended the IWI class at the event on changing ejection from right to left. During the Q&A I asked the director of LE sales about the X95. This is his response word for word: "I can say this, IWI didn't set up a facility in the US to just produce one weapon. As for the X95 we won't see it for civilian sales for quite awhile." When pressed about what we would see he responded. "I will leave that to [Mike] Kassanar, I will say that you will see some new old stuff coming out soon.' This next part is pure speculation by me: I anticipate IWI will announce the release the Galil ACE at SHOT 2015. My previous conversation in 2013 with Mike Kassanar indicated that he was pushing for the .308 version for US sales, this was before the craziness of the "Great Panic" and as such I believe producing and selling 20,000+ Tavors has delayed this. Sales of Tavors are still brisk and as such it doesn't make much sense for IWI to release another Tavor and essentially compete with themselves. The Galil ACE has a lot of demand as well as the ability to round out IWI US offerings with a possible IDF Galil, Galil ACE Nato, Galil ACE 5.56, Galil ACE .308 and finally a Galil ACE SBR. I predict that this is how it will play out. I also predict that they will wait until sales of the Tavor slow down and then release the X95 as essentially the next evolution of that design, thus maximizing the sale of that platform. Many guys who bought the Tavor will probably also buy the X95 and the release of a X95 will generate a lot of interest back into that platform. -Sgt. Mac View Quote A while back I spoke to Mr. Kassanar, and he said that the ACE would be coming to the US very soon. They expect to see some LE sales so I am assuming that ACE-N will be the first model out, followed closely or at the same time the ACE .308, and I expect the Galil Sniper will find its way here too. |
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Gah...I was all set to buy the Vizio P series when I saw the R series....
I was all set to buy a Tavor in OD green when I saw the X95...... I was all set to buy the Scar 17S when I saw the.......Scar 17s |
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