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[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Steyr AUG A3 or Tavor

Posted: 9/19/2014 3:32:19 AM EDT

Ok guys, here it is, and getting both is not an option. I've decided that I am getting one of the new AUGs, I've shot a couple of them and really like them, and I'm selling off some of my under appreciated firearms to make it happen, the question is this, is there any reason I should consider the Tavor in it's place? I see a couple of points I like better on the Tavor, IE 1/2-28 threads on the barrel, and a 1-7 twist, but other than that, I find it slightly unattractive, anyone own/shot both? What are your thoughts?
JKJ

Posted: 9/19/2014 3:45:04 AM EDT

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AUG

Posted: 9/19/2014 4:08:54 AM EDT

[#2]

I own both. I prefer the ergonomics of the Tavor and think the stock trigger is slightly better. I think the AUG is easier to disassemble and clean, and looks better. I like them both and think it really comes down more to which one you like the feel of better. I shoot the Tavor more than the AUG and also feel it suppresses better, for what its worth.

Posted: 9/19/2014 4:18:32 AM EDT

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This is one of those "9mm vs 45" arguments that has been played out about a thousand times here. Some prefer the Aug, some prefer the Tavor. Both are great gun and will do you well.

Personally, I've shot both and prefer the Tavor, but still want to get an AUG at some point.

Posted: 9/19/2014 4:47:44 AM EDT

[#4]

AUG

Then again Tavor is damn good choice.

Posted: 9/19/2014 7:05:33 AM EDT

[#5]

If u have already decided on an AUG, then go that route. Don't second guess yourself. It's a really nice rifle.

I got my AUG first, then the Tavor. I like both equally, but for different reasons.

Posted: 9/19/2014 7:16:25 AM EDT

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I don't see how a stock Tavor trigger could be better than an AUG's.

I've had them both almost completely apart, and the Tavor is more difficult to work on, like a gun puzzle. AUG is simpler and has better production QC I think. I unwrapped a NIB Tavor that IWI had used blue loctite in lieu of a nut on the ejection port guard. The worst I've seen on an AUG is how the latest A3's sometimes don't have as smooth a radius in the plastic stock where the curve of the receiver's back-end meets it, but that's just aesthetics and is barely noticeable.

Tavor has better rail options and its mag release can be considered an improvement vs euro-style or mucho AUG speedload training. I want to hear from someone who's snagged their Tavor release on something.

Posted: 9/19/2014 10:49:25 AM EDT

[#7]

Aug A3 vs Tavor

Posted: 9/19/2014 11:02:42 AM EDT

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How about something relevant to this site?

rehashed 1.000.000 times

AUG > tavor, but buy what you want.

Posted: 9/19/2014 11:31:56 AM EDT

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Your best bet is to handle, and if possible, try out both- they are both excellent rifles, but the ergonomics of each are very individual- I find the AUG fits me a touch better but I have plenty of friends that the Tavor fits them a bit better.

I will say you can expect to see A LOT more aftermarket accessories for the Tavor in about a week, so it will be even easier to enhance and personalize to your liking.

Posted: 9/19/2014 1:21:35 PM EDT

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I have shot the AUG and really like it, as far as accessories, I just need an optic, trigger, light, and I will probably form 1 a suppressor for it.

Next question, AUG mags, or Nato? I have a pile of AR mags, but the AUG mags look better built, and since I doubt a beta mag/bullpup combo works well, I'm on the fence with this part.

Posted: 9/19/2014 1:53:40 PM EDT

[#11]

Aug.

Because Karl.

Posted: 9/19/2014 1:58:00 PM EDT

[#12]

I own both and would buy another AUG before I bought another Tavor. Nothing against the Tavor, the AUG is just an amazingly put together gun. And the 9mm kit is one of the best in the biz as well.

Posted: 9/19/2014 4:08:33 PM EDT

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It's in the AUG forum. If the same thread was in the Tavor forum, it'd be the opposite results. That's pretty much the point I was making earlier.

Aftermarket support for the Tavor is already better than the AUG, and skyrocketing because the Tavor's sold more units in the year and a half it's been around than the AUG did in decades.

Posted: 9/19/2014 4:56:55 PM EDT

[#14]

I've got both. You aren't going wrong with either.

Personally, I think the Tavor is clearly the better gun once you've fixed the trigger. But fixing the Tavor trigger is also super-expensive compared to fixing the AUG trigger. *shrugs*

Posted: 9/19/2014 5:16:33 PM EDT

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AUG.

Check w/Pete - he may have a 1:7 barrel to swap out for ya, if you really have a need/strong desire for one.

Posted: 9/19/2014 5:22:10 PM EDT

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Tavor, greater aftermarket support with top notch American made triggers, rails etc. the Tavor has more support in one year than the AUG has mustered in 30 years.

Posted: 9/19/2014 6:23:52 PM EDT

[#17]

It's been asked and answered many times and always comes down to "get what you like more", because you can't go wrong with either one. Having shot both, I like the AUG more.

Posted: 9/19/2014 7:00:49 PM EDT

[#18]

Pretty obvious that there is no comparison

Posted: 9/19/2014 11:16:35 PM EDT

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If you are talking strictly bolt on aftermarket rails etc, then yes. But if you take into account the parts more necessary for gun function that people actually need and want, then no, not even close. The AUG has the factory parts market saturated, anything and everything you need or could ever want has been available for decades... With the Tavor, you can order a spare firing pin.

I don't want an aftermarket this or that. I want factory replacement parts, ejectors, extractors, bolts, hammerpacks, barrels, receivers, stocks, springs, etc.

Posted: 9/20/2014 12:29:58 AM EDT

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If you are talking strictly bolt on aftermarket rails etc, then yes. But if you take into account the parts more necessary for gun function that people actually need and want, then no, not even close. The AUG has the factory parts market saturated, anything and everything you need or could ever want has been available for decades... With the Tavor, you can order a spare firing pin.

I don't want an aftermarket this or that. I want factory replacement parts, ejectors, extractors, bolts, hammerpacks, barrels, receivers, stocks, springs, etc.

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Tavor, greater aftermarket support with top notch American made triggers, rails etc. the Tavor has more support in one year than the AUG has mustered in 30 years.

If you are talking strictly bolt on aftermarket rails etc, then yes. But if you take into account the parts more necessary for gun function that people actually need and want, then no, not even close. The AUG has the factory parts market saturated, anything and everything you need or could ever want has been available for decades... With the Tavor, you can order a spare firing pin.

I don't want an aftermarket this or that. I want factory replacement parts, ejectors, extractors, bolts, hammerpacks, barrels, receivers, stocks, springs, etc.

I know you're the resident AUG cheerleader, but you could at least try to get your facts straight. Available right now from IWI, you can get firing pins, extractors, ejectors, springs, hammerpacks, ect. If you mail them the rifle so they can headspace it, they'll sell you bolts (I think that's silly myself, but it's largely legal cover your ass at work.) They'll have barrels on the site in weeks per IWI. The AUG has had 30 years to get the market saturated with parts. The Tavor has had a year and a half, and has been concentrating on getting rifles out there.

And hey, hope you don't want a 9mm kit for that new AUG, because they're banned for import.

Posted: 9/20/2014 12:31:07 AM EDT

[#21]

I owned an original all Austrian Steyr AUG for almost 2 decades - excellent rifle

Along comes the Tavor and I tried everything I could to hate it... But I couldn't.

Incredible rifle.....

That said - Choose for yourself, based on your expectations

Posted: 9/20/2014 2:32:26 PM EDT

[#22]

If you can wait the X-95 may become available by spring.
The mag release is the same as an AR.
The mag release on current offerings from IWI and Steyr has been a deal killer for me.
The X-95 is more refined than the Tavor and very reliable.
X-95 and Tavor is quieter suppressed than the AUG.

Posted: 9/20/2014 2:50:48 PM EDT

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I guess for me, it was a toss up between the Steyr Aug and Tavor with no real preference to which one I got. It just so happened that the Tavor was spotted first and that's what I went with. Had it been an AUG that I came across first, it's likely that I would have went with that instead. Now of course, the proper answer here is to own both! With my time in the engineer program coming to a close and I can say goodbye to training wages next month and start making better money again this fall, an AUG is on the very short list for me to get next and maybe an X95 in the spring when they are released. In any case, I don't think you are going to make a bad choice whatever way you go, be it Tavor or AUG.

Posted: 9/20/2014 8:56:09 PM EDT

[#24]

I tried the tavor, sold it and bought a couple AUG's.

I still want an FDE tavor.

I like that I can add the NEU trigger to the AUG for $38 shipped and make the trigger incredible.

The AUG has all the parts you need available from pjsteyraug, ratworx, and other vendors.

I would REALLY like a 9mm AUG or Tavor but can't afford either right now.

Posted: 9/20/2014 9:00:43 PM EDT

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I have shot the AUG and really like it, as far as accessories, I just need an optic, trigger, light, and I will probably form 1 a suppressor for it.

Next question, AUG mags, or Nato? I have a pile of AR mags, but the AUG mags look better built, and since I doubt a beta mag/bullpup combo works well, I'm on the fence with this part.

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Tough call there. I like the AUG mags, and have yet to have an issue with them, running thousands of rounds through 'em - range, 3 gun, carbine classes, matches in the rain, snow...
The NATO stock seems to work without issues from what I've read, anyways...although you do give up the stock mounted bolt release with the NATO stock, and have to cycle the charging handle after swapping out an empty mag...otherwise functionally identical.

Posted: 9/20/2014 9:44:29 PM EDT

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AUG fits me better, the length of pull on the Tavor is too long or at least feels that way to me. If somebody made a thinner buttpad I might consider the Tavor.

Posted: 9/20/2014 10:16:36 PM EDT

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AUG fits me better, the length of pull on the Tavor is too long or at least feels that way to me. If somebody made a thinner buttpad I might consider the Tavor.

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Length of pull is almost identical.

Posted: 9/21/2014 10:12:29 AM EDT

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Length of pull is almost identical.

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AUG fits me better, the length of pull on the Tavor is too long or at least feels that way to me. If somebody made a thinner buttpad I might consider the Tavor.

Length of pull is almost identical.

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I just measured both. The AUG is 15" and the Tavor is 16". I measured parallel to the barrel from the center of the trigger to the butt, that's the propper method. The extra length of the Tavor is due to the thick buttpad, so if somebody made a thin pad, then the length of pull would be nearly identical.

Posted: 9/21/2014 4:50:28 PM EDT

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I just measured both. The AUG is 15" and the Tavor is 16". I measured parallel to the barrel from the center of the trigger to the butt, that's the propper method. The extra length of the Tavor is due to the thick buttpad, so if somebody made a thin pad, then the length of pull would be nearly identical.

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AUG fits me better, the length of pull on the Tavor is too long or at least feels that way to me. If somebody made a thinner buttpad I might consider the Tavor.

Length of pull is almost identical.

http://i1266.photobucket.com/albums/jj540/seainc/Forum/DSC_9006_zps8c17c5ff.jpg

I just measured both. The AUG is 15" and the Tavor is 16". I measured parallel to the barrel from the center of the trigger to the butt, that's the propper method. The extra length of the Tavor is due to the thick buttpad, so if somebody made a thin pad, then the length of pull would be nearly identical.

Stay tuned...

Posted: 9/21/2014 6:22:06 PM EDT

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AUG fits me better, the length of pull on the Tavor is too long or at least feels that way to me. If somebody made a thinner buttpad I might consider the Tavor.

Length of pull is almost identical.

http://i1266.photobucket.com/albums/jj540/seainc/Forum/DSC_9006_zps8c17c5ff.jpg

I just measured both. The AUG is 15" and the Tavor is 16". I measured parallel to the barrel from the center of the trigger to the butt, that's the propper method. The extra length of the Tavor is due to the thick buttpad, so if somebody made a thin pad, then the length of pull would be nearly identical.

Stay tuned...

Now you have my attention

Posted: 9/21/2014 9:11:24 PM EDT

[#31]

one thing i noticed about the shape of the Tavor buttpad is that it guides and holds the stock into the shoulder crease very nicely. it probably also helps when wearing body armor

Posted: 9/21/2014 10:45:17 PM EDT

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I find it confusing that my Tavor with 16" LOP Feels so good. With an AR I prefer an A1 buttstock to the A2's whopping LOP which is what, about 1 1/4" less than the Tavor? Honesty if I had known it had a 16" LOP before I ordered it that might have scared me away from buying. But I really like it.

Posted: 9/21/2014 11:20:15 PM EDT

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I find it confusing that my Tavor with 16" LOP Feels so good. With an AR I prefer an A1 buttstock to the A2's whopping LOP which is what, about 1 1/4" less than the Tavor? Honesty if I had known it had a 16" LOP before I ordered it that might have scared me away from buying. But I really like it.

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its because the center of gravity on a bullpup is much closer to the body than with an AR

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