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Posted: 4/11/2012 9:04:50 AM

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Hey, I don't know if this is the right forum.

My current dream is to own my own
mil-spec FAMAS F1.

Anyone know if this is possible?

Do they sell them in the U.S.?

Thanks
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Posted: 4/11/2012 9:06:28 AM
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They did for awhile, but from what I recall, there are VERY few of them, and they are VERY expensive.

I found the thread I was thinking about, but you can't view it because it is archived. A member here owns one, and he commented that $10,500 wasn't a bad price for a FAMAS.

Here is the thread, for the team members: FAMAS for sale on Sturm
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Posted: 4/11/2012 9:52:49 AM
$10,500 for a FAMAS?

That is expensive. I will have
to wait a few months before I can afford one.

I am willing to buy it once I get the cash together.

Where can a guy go to buy a FAMAS?

I mean I understand that they are difficult to
come by considering the French govt
doesn't really sell out its rifle.

There has to be some way.

Maybe I should contact MAS, the
French Arms Manufacturer once
I rebuild my finances?
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Posted: 4/11/2012 9:57:08 AM
I don't know why people think it is ugly.

I think it has a nice look to it.

It is also very compact, and I like that.

From the videos I've seen of Legionnaires handling
it, it seems very easy to handle, and seems
well balanced.

Seems like a perfect tool for both urban warfare,
and warfare in more open spaces.
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Posted: 4/11/2012 9:58:45 AM
Originally Posted By Frostburg:
$10,500 for a FAMAS?

That is expensive. I will have
to wait a few months before I can afford one.

I am willing to buy it once I get the cash together.

Where can a guy go to buy a FAMAS?

I mean I understand that they are difficult to
come by considering the French govt
doesn't really sell out its rifle.

There has to be some way.

Maybe I should contact MAS, the
French Arms Manufacturer once
I rebuild my finances?


A full auto version couldn't be imported for normal civvies.
And I don't know if any semi-autos were ever imported.

Did anyone ever make a .22LR version?
And were parts kits ever imported?
I like the look of the FAMAS but I have never seen a economic way to get one.
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Posted: 4/11/2012 10:10:25 AM
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Originally Posted By Frostburg:
$10,500 for a FAMAS?

That is expensive. I will have
to wait a few months before I can afford one.

I am willing to buy it once I get the cash together.

Where can a guy go to buy a FAMAS?

I mean I understand that they are difficult to
come by considering the French govt
doesn't really sell out its rifle.

There has to be some way.

Maybe I should contact MAS, the
French Arms Manufacturer once
I rebuild my finances?


They are no longer imported, and like I said, they are VERY rare. The last one I saw was listed on Sturmgewehr.com. I would troll the NFA boards.

You'll have to get the money together and wait until one comes up for sale. I would save up more than $10,500 as well, so you are prepared if it costs more.

The market is so small that more than likely it will come to market for whatever the seller thinks he can get for it.

I think there was a .22lr version made at one point, but I can't remember who was importing it.

ETA) Apparently the 25 round mags are extremely expensive as well, something like $150-200 apiece.
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Posted: 4/11/2012 11:11:06 AM
Not to "pee on anyone's parade" but I have fired the real one in semi auto and I was not impressed.
I own a FS2000 and a Steyr AUG A3, you would be MUCH better off in my opinion with either of these two platforms for multiple reasons.

1. Cost-the semi's were imported by Century Arms in 1989 for $1,000 (about 100-125 that's IT). Now they sell for $8.5K-10K. If you REALLY want to spend that on a semi auto buy you a SIG 550/551 and have one of the nicest firearms ever built, period, and you can get mags for it and parts, but you will never need any parts more than likely.

2. Mags, there are many many Steyr AUG mags in the country and priced reasonable, the FS2K takes AR mags. FAMAS as stated takes proprietary mags and they are rare and expensive.

3. Optics mounting capability-the AUG A3 and FS shine in this arena, the FAMAS is pretty much an open sight weapon with a very short sight radius and hard to shoot well in my opinion.

4. Spare parts-good luck on the FAMAS, there are none

And you can get aftermarket trigger upgrades for AUG and FS2K and both platforms are pretty accurate, my AUG a tad more accurate.

Hell for 10K you could buy a Pre-Ban AUG, a FS2K, and an AUG A3 and ammo and shoot the hell out of all the bullpups and enjoy without worries.



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Posted: 4/11/2012 11:19:23 AM
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I did a little digging, and the 22LR gun I was thinking of was made by Jager, and it was a clone.

Thread for members: Jager FAMAS Clone
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Posted: 4/11/2012 3:08:33 PM
Century Arms imported a semi auto version of the FAMAS called the MAS .223 in the 80's, I think they went for around $1,325.00 new or so. Sales were poor and they abandoned it. I think maybe 180 or so made it into the USA (seems like I recall hearing that from someone).

They are rare. Their magazines are rare. Larry Vickers has one and apparently he had to wait for a long time for one to go up for sale. Basically they come up for sale when collectors die. Last one I saw for sale was through an estate that was selling off a very impressive collection that included a FAMAS.

SA-80 and the SAR-21 are more rare, but FAMAS is pretty rare. Definitely harder to find than AUGs.
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Posted: 4/11/2012 3:35:21 PM
I'm not going to spend that
kind of money on a civilian semi-auto
FAMAS.

I would rather spend the time and money to get
a true mil-spec FAMAS.
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Posted: 4/11/2012 3:48:17 PM
Sounds darn difficult though.
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Posted: 4/11/2012 4:08:05 PM
That gun was tits on MW2
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Posted: 4/11/2012 5:06:14 PM
Originally Posted By Frostburg:
I'm not going to spend that
kind of money on a civilian semi-auto
FAMAS.

I would rather spend the time and money to get
a true mil-spec FAMAS.


That's the only option available. To the best of my knowledge, there are no pre 86 NFA FAMAS' available.
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Posted: 4/11/2012 5:49:34 PM
Originally Posted By Frostburg:
I'm not going to spend that
kind of money on a civilian semi-auto
FAMAS.

I would rather spend the time and money to get
a true mil-spec FAMAS.


If you find a legal way to pull that off short of joining the Foreign Legion please let us know. As far as I know GIAT will no longer allow export of their military arms to the U.S., at least not for civilian resale. The French government would also have a direct say in exportation of military arms from outside of their borders.

Honestly it might be cheaper to have someone manufacture a U.S. made clone in small numbers. But from the very, very limited experience I have handling one the allure of owning one is a lot stronger than the actual practicality of the ergonomics and handling.
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Posted: 4/11/2012 5:54:36 PM
Originally Posted By Frostburg:
I'm not going to spend that
kind of money on a civilian semi-auto
FAMAS.

I would rather spend the time and money to get
a true mil-spec FAMAS.



That's impossible unless you became a legally recognized one man law enforcement organization, and managed to talk the french government into selling you a single one. I think there is a better chance of Obama becoming a die hard conservative than you getting a mil spec FAMAS. Also your in MD max mag capacity is 20 rounds unless something has changed in the past few years since I checked out a gun shop next door to the tattoo shop I was getting inked at so you would have to butcher the 25 round mags for a semi as well. If you're into bullpups as others have suggested try out one of those, I know I love my MSAR almost as much as my PTR91. Now if only I could get them to breed and make something that was a cross between both of them that would be awesome .

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Posted: 4/11/2012 7:44:24 PM
Originally Posted By Frostburg:
I'm not going to spend that
kind of money on a civilian semi-auto
FAMAS.

I would rather spend the time and money to get
a true mil-spec FAMAS.


If there were a transferable, full-auto FAMAS out there -and there isn't- it would be a conversion of an early, imported sales sample and it would be a $30k gun.

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Originally Posted By Homeinvader:
Originally Posted By Frostburg:
I'm not going to spend that
kind of money on a civilian semi-auto
FAMAS.

I would rather spend the time and money to get
a true mil-spec FAMAS.


If there were a transferable, full-auto FAMAS out there -and there isn't- it would be a conversion of an early, imported sales sample and it would be a $30k gun.




Jeez, that really sucks. I do want a bull pup simply for the compact design.
I want it to be combat ready, not just for looks or fun.

By the way HomeInvader, why did you choose that name?

Personally, I just don't feel it is an appropriate name considering
the ethical as well as legal implications of Home Invasion.
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Jeez, that really sucks. I do want a bull pup simply for the compact design.
I want it to be combat ready, not just for looks or fun.


Why? Were you planning on taking a ridiculously expensive rifle with no spares or mags into a combat zone for fun? Your posts in this thread lead me to believe you don't really have a grasp on the realities of the market or it's laws.

By the way HomeInvader, why did you choose that name?

Personally, I just don't feel it is an appropriate name considering
the ethical as well as legal implications of Home Invasion.


I don't think this is the place to critique his handle, save that for IM or GD

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Originally Posted By Frostburg:
Originally Posted By Homeinvader:
Originally Posted By Frostburg:
I'm not going to spend that
kind of money on a civilian semi-auto
FAMAS.

I would rather spend the time and money to get
a true mil-spec FAMAS.


If there were a transferable, full-auto FAMAS out there -and there isn't- it would be a conversion of an early, imported sales sample and it would be a $30k gun.




Jeez, that really sucks. I do want a bull pup simply for the compact design.
I want it to be combat ready, not just for looks or fun. first of all any decent ar or in the case of bullpups an aug is just as "combat ready" as the f/a counterparts.

By the way HomeInvader, why did you choose that name?

Personally, I just don't feel it is an appropriate name considering
the ethical as well as legal implications of Home Invasion.

second get off your soap box about his name. you really think he runs around breaking into homes?
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There is a guy that owns one here...he did a thread on it a few years ago

ETA: Archive search is down..I may try again later
There, I said it...Don't tell me you weren't thinking the same thing!

I just want to go to the backyard, get a stick, and clean this thread off the bottom of my shoe....
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Originally Posted By VoodooChile:
There is a guy that owns one here...he did a thread on it a few years ago

ETA: Archive search is down..I may try again later


I have the link in my first post, if you want it.
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Posted: 4/12/2012 11:34:07 AM
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Originally Posted By Frostburg:
Hey, I don't know if this is the right forum.

My current dream is to own my own
mil-spec FAMAS F1.

Anyone know if this is possible?

Do they sell them in the U.S.?

Thanks


I know someone who actually owns one.

The older Famas had problem transitioning from older 55gr M193 to 62gr SS109 ammunition.

The newer G2 version has corrected the ammo problem.

The new FELIN program(French version of Land Warrior) is an upgraded G2.

AUG A3 is a much more reliable and a modular, as well as a more flexible system, able to function with wider range of ammunition.

With AUG, you can change the upper and quickly change the barrel length. With A2/A3, mount the optic of your choice. With NATO stock/trigger pack option, switch mag from AUG to NATO mag. Mount light/laser/etc. of your choice to your heart's desire. No problem functioning with wide range of commercial and milspec ammo, old or new, unlike many other bullpup like FN F2000 or FAMAS.

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/11/26/are-the-french-dumping-the-famas/

http://secretdefense.blogs.liberation.fr/defense/2009/09/larm%C3%A9e-a-de-s%C3%A9rieuses-difficult%C3%A9s-avec-les-munitions-du-fusil-famas.html
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Posted: 4/12/2012 11:46:08 AM
I think the op has no clue what hes asking about, unless you're made of money a famas is out of the question

buy an fs2000, or an AUG, or go for the gold and make your own rifle
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Originally Posted By Killjoy321:
I think the op has no clue what hes asking about, unless you're made of money a famas is out of the question

buy an fs2000, or an AUG, or go for the gold and make your own rifle


not sure of that.

It's more of a collector's gun and the OP's post make him sound more of a collector.
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Posted: 4/12/2012 1:03:21 PM
Originally Posted By theinvisibleheart:
Originally Posted By Killjoy321:
I think the op has no clue what hes asking about, unless you're made of money a famas is out of the question

buy an fs2000, or an AUG, or go for the gold and make your own rifle


not sure of that.

It's more of a collector's gun and the OP's post make him sound more of a collector.


It doesn't look that way from his responses:


Originally Posted By Frostburg:
I do want a bull pup simply for the compact design.
I want it to be combat ready, not just for looks or fun.

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