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Posted: 2/10/2012 6:31:51 AM
[Last Edit: 2/12/2012 11:45:47 PM by gocargo]
THE IMAGE ABOVE IS A PAID ADVERTISEMENT But I read that Steyr may possibly remake another A3 here in the US again (would it be called the A3-D  )
Anyway, what's the max I should pay for a new Sabre Defense Aug? I checked Gunbroker recent sales $1800 & $2400 used, and $2000 new. Also, if only 1800 were made (as claimed) why are these and others sitting around unsold after 3 years? -Thanks |
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Posted: 2/10/2012 8:30:15 AM
[Last Edit: 2/10/2012 9:50:13 AM by Dukpt]
If your dealer is in NY state as you are, well, there is your answer.
NY state residents can only purchase and trade Pre-Ban Steyr Augs. NY state adopted the Federal AWB that expired years ago. If he advertised nationwide, his stock of Steyr Augs would probably be gone in hours listed at Steyrs MSRP. Purchasing a new A3 at MSRP * Around $2295.00 would be a steal right now! |
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Posted: 2/10/2012 10:32:56 AM
Originally Posted By Dukpt:
If he advertised nationwide, his stock of Steyr Augs would probably be gone in hours listed at Steyrs MSRP. Purchasing a new A3 at MSRP * Around $2295.00 would be a steal right now! Seriously? Weren't dealers having trouble closing them out at $1850? |
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Posted: 2/10/2012 10:59:14 AM
Originally Posted By invalidexception:
Seriously? Weren't dealers having trouble closing them out at $1850? Having trouble? A3's in stock available for purchase is having Trouble? If that is the case, then why do we have stocking dealers? Why do we have Car lots with new cars on them? Yeah, directly up until production ended it wasn't hard to find an A3 for sale. Don't we want that? The prices stayed level right up until the end of production. Shortly after that, the A3's Sky Rocketed in price. This is what I observed. |
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Posted: 2/10/2012 7:00:54 PM
[Last Edit: 2/12/2012 11:45:14 PM by gocargo]
This one..
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Posted: 2/10/2012 7:13:26 PM
I paid around $1900 in 2009 for a new one, including shipping and a 4% charge because I paid with a credit card instead of cash. It came with two 30-round magazines and a soft case. The dealer who sold mine has one left in stock - $3200!
I'd start low to see how he reacts. |
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Posted: 2/10/2012 7:26:08 PM
[Last Edit: 2/10/2012 7:27:39 PM by Dukpt]
Originally Posted By gocargo:
It's a GEORGIA dealer in the state where I reside, although I have a home in NY where I am typing this question now. These AUG's are not pre-ban and they are not imported, they were made in 2009-2010 by Sabre Defense under contract from Steyr Aug. So, what are they worth considering Steyr might have more built here in the USA once again? thanks..! At the present time, NIB Steyr Aug A3's have been fetching from a low of 2K to the mid 3K range. Locating one NIB is the hardest part. MSRP during production was $2200.00 with the average selling price around $1850.00. If you don't need all Seven of them, shoot me a PM with information on this dealer, I could go for another one. |
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Posted: 2/10/2012 7:27:29 PM
If you get 1 let us know the dealer name and price. I am looking for one also.
JCS |
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Posted: 2/10/2012 9:14:56 PM
Originally Posted By Dukpt:
If your dealer is in NY state as you are, well, there is your answer. NY state residents can only purchase and trade Pre-Ban Steyr Augs. NY state adopted the Federal AWB that expired years ago. If he advertised nationwide, his stock of Steyr Augs would probably be gone in hours listed at Steyrs MSRP. Purchasing a new A3 at MSRP * Around $2295.00 would be a steal right now! I've seen one sell at $1800 NIB in the last couple months. 2300 is too high. If I were looking for a new A3 AUG, I wouldn't pay anything over 2k for a NEW IN THE BOX never fired gun. |
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Posted: 2/11/2012 7:04:59 AM
Offer him $1600 , as part of the deal you will tell others who are looking to buy A3's . You get a good price and he clears out his A3 inventory.
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Posted: 2/11/2012 10:07:11 AM
I don't know. If it were me I would probably wait until the new AUGs came out and see a) what they go for MSRP, b) what impact they have on the older prices, and c) what the differences are between the two (CHF barrel vs. Sabre Button Rifled for example).
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Posted: 2/11/2012 1:10:05 PM
[Last Edit: 2/23/2012 11:07:57 AM by HardShell]
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Posted: 2/11/2012 4:28:50 PM
Originally Posted By gocargo:
Came across a dealer who's has several Sabre Defense Aug's that have been in his inventory for 2 years and he asked me to make him an offer. But I read that Steyr may possibly remake another A3 here in the US again (would it be called the A3-D )
Anyway, what's the max I should pay for a new Sabre Defense Aug? I checked Gunbroker recent sales $1800 & $2400 used, and $2000 new. Also, if only 1800 were made (as claimed) why are these and others sitting around unsold after 3 years? -Thanks I guess if the going rate for a used one is $2400 (hi end) and $2000K new I would jump on the new one for $2000 Or...you could wait and see if Augs are once again produced in the USA by a reliable company and see how that pans out.... On the other hand if it doesn't...that $2000 NIB Aug might go up in price a tad... |
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Posted: 2/12/2012 9:54:20 AM
I wouldn't hold my breath for Steyr to begin production again. I just dont see the demand as there are still many of the A3's sitting on dealers shelves. If I wanted one, i would grab one now while they are still readily available.
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Posted: 2/12/2012 12:49:39 PM
best price I ever saw new was $1800-1850 and it came with the soft case and a few extra mags as some sort of promotion.
Agree with prior poster, Steyr is pretty flaky, I wouldn't be sure of anything they say. Plus if they restart production, the price might be $2k plus. All comes down to how bad you want one. |
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Posted: 2/12/2012 1:07:23 PM
Yes, and why Steyr is negotiating, deliberating with US manufacturers.
Steyr know now what to expect in sales. It all boils down to whether it's worth them going at it again for more, less or the same profit.. |
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Posted: 2/17/2012 1:08:39 AM
Originally Posted By Dukpt:
Yes, and why Steyr is negotiating, deliberating with US manufacturers. Steyr know now what to expect in sales. It all boils down to whether it's worth them going at it again for more, less or the same profit.. At some point, the gun companies are going to have to get real and suffer with the rest of the people in this economy. No AUG, no SCAR, no ACR, no any kind of .223 fighting rifle is ever going to be "worth" $2k when people are having to decide between paying the cable bill or paying the electric bill. They could get away with a high MSRP when times were good and people didn't care because the overtime was there, different story these days. |
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Posted: 2/17/2012 6:31:01 AM
Originally Posted By TheOtherDave:
At some point, the gun companies are going to have to get real and suffer with the rest of the people in this economy. No AUG, no SCAR, no ACR, no any kind of .223 fighting rifle is ever going to be "worth" $2k when people are having to decide between paying the cable bill or paying the electric bill. They could get away with a high MSRP when times were good and people didn't care because the overtime was there, different story these days. The HK556 is hundreds more than the 556 Aug. It's a Piston gun. The bbl's are Hammer Forged, but, you can't swap them out like the Aug. 
Similar to the Steyr Aug, several parts for the HK are US made up at their NH factory. Their 7.62 is more than double what it cost for an Aug? Heckler & Koch isn't listening.....AUCTION |
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Posted: 2/17/2012 4:14:17 PM
The AUG A3 is the ONLY new gun I bought in the last 5 years that is accurate, reliable, and will hold it's value without a doubt.
I had 2 MSAR's and both went back to the factory, and their value is about 1/2 what they were now so I am glad they are gone I had a Sig 556 and it shot 3" groups with a 4x scope at 100 yards (not great), it also went from a $1,200 to $1,650 to $900 now, I sold it at $1,650
I had a Remington 597 .17 HMR that blew up on me, got my money back and bought: Magnum Research .17 HMR and it blew up too-guess I was hard headed  Got my money back there too
Then I got a NIB Steyr AUG A3 and it shoots lights out, and has been reliable, I paid $1,650 for it-best deal I saw, and it's serial # 29
I am still working on the SCAR 17, it is reliable but not quite yet where I want it on accuracy, I will get a new trigger soon... |
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Posted: 2/17/2012 8:43:38 PM
Originally Posted By TheOtherDave:
No AUG, no SCAR, no ACR, no any kind of .223 fighting rifle is ever going to be "worth" $2k when people are having to decide between paying the cable bill or paying the electric bill. Just because one person can't afford a $2,000 rifle doesn't meane there aren't a hundred other people who can. There are people who can't afford a $200 gun, and some of those people who can't afford a $200 gun will still buy a $2,000 gun. People keep saying the economy is so bad but I can't get a good seat in a movie theater and I have to wait for a table to pay $20 for a meal. |
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Posted: 2/17/2012 9:37:47 PM
Originally Posted By BrianNH:
I wouldn't hold my breath for Steyr to begin production again. I just dont see the demand as there are still many of the A3's sitting on dealers shelves. If I wanted one, i would grab one now while they are still readily available. If Steyr said they'll bring them back they'll bring them back. It will just take forever for them to do it, because Steyr NEVER EVER does anything in a timely fashion. They move so slow I'm shocked that company doesn't go back in time.
Look how long it took for Steyr pistols to come back to market. |
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Posted: 2/18/2012 3:00:00 PM
[Last Edit: 2/19/2012 6:43:43 AM by Dukpt]
I agree with the both of you.
It looks like The Specialist just sold one of those HK 7.62's for $3700.00. Whether you may agree or not, HK is pretty much state of the Art in the US. Anything with their name on it = Big bucks. HK's pricing reflects this. The Steyr A3 isn't a knock off. Personally? At 2K. I think the price of the A3 is more than reasonable. Auction |
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Posted: 2/19/2012 10:01:51 PM
Id say 2500. Steyr isn't going to be making these again until 2015- 2016 at the earliest.
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Posted: 2/20/2012 11:17:15 PM
Originally Posted By Dukpt:
Originally Posted By TheOtherDave:
At some point, the gun companies are going to have to get real and suffer with the rest of the people in this economy. No AUG, no SCAR, no ACR, no any kind of .223 fighting rifle is ever going to be "worth" $2k when people are having to decide between paying the cable bill or paying the electric bill. They could get away with a high MSRP when times were good and people didn't care because the overtime was there, different story these days. The HK556 is hundreds more than the 556 Aug. It's a Piston gun. The bbl's are Hammer Forged, but, you can't swap them out like the Aug.
Similar to the Steyr Aug, several parts for the HK are US made up at their NH factory. Their 7.62 is more than double what it cost for an Aug? Heckler & Koch isn't listening.....AUCTION And you know what? I broke a precious HK416 a few weeks ago. A Real one, with a fun switch. It was a dealer sample with a 10.5" barrel, the bolt broke same as any AR15 does. It was fun for 3 mags though! Thanks, but I'm not buying that HK's are 'worth' more than any other gun. They just advertise better to people who can't think for themselves. |
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Posted: 2/20/2012 11:20:44 PM
Originally Posted By brazos609:
Originally Posted By TheOtherDave:
No AUG, no SCAR, no ACR, no any kind of .223 fighting rifle is ever going to be "worth" $2k when people are having to decide between paying the cable bill or paying the electric bill. Just because one person can't afford a $2,000 rifle doesn't meane there aren't a hundred other people who can. There are people who can't afford a $200 gun, and some of those people who can't afford a $200 gun will still buy a $2,000 gun. People keep saying the economy is so bad but I can't get a good seat in a movie theater and I have to wait for a table to pay $20 for a meal. How many companies have to fold and fail before you believe that guns are priced too high for current market conditions? Manufacturing companies are in the business of making and moving product. There is a constant demand for firearms-it's not that the product has no demand, it's that market conditions are not favorable to companies that still think it's 2006/7. |
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Posted: 2/21/2012 10:37:49 PM
Originally Posted By gocargo:
Came across a dealer who's has a Sabre Defense Aug that's been in his inventory for 2 years and he asked me to make him an offer. But I read that Steyr may possibly remake another A3 here in the US again (would it be called the A3-D )
Anyway, what's the max I should pay for a new Sabre Defense Aug? I checked Gunbroker recent sales $1800 & $2400 used, and $2000 new. Also, if only 1800 were made (as claimed) why are these and others sitting around unsold after 3 years? -Thanks If you're still in NY, pay zero. I almost bought one last week, but found out that we can't in NY. At first I thought by the evil parts count it would be OK, but AUG is specifically banned. My local gun dealer confirmed with a local ATF agent. Dukpt is correct. |
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