So I called Ratworx the other day asking about MSAR 30 round stg mags and was told they didn't have any but had been talking to MSAR and were expecting NEW production rifles, barrels, and stocks this year. I don't doubt Ratworx however its MSAR so I guess we'll have to wait and see. If they do come back what a year for bullpups, the AUG, MSAR back in production and the Tavor will make its way here. Almost afraid to pinch myself.

that would be sweet! And I can't think of a better outfit than Ratworx to support/go to for it!

What is everyone's best guess on what their standard railed E4 will sell for?

Not what you hope, but what they will really sell for?

Should they have a new Beginning.

It would be nice is MSAR returned to operation, but I have doubts it would ever be under the MSAR name as Tony Senior has pretty much run that name into the ground, then beat it into a grease spot to be sure it really is dead.

What would be really nice is if MSAR would honor the commitment they made to the people who returned magazines and optics...

FS2000's can be had for $1500~ right now and are readily able to be used left handed

I was told the price drop is only temporary until dealers and distributors get rid of their present stock of SKU numbers.

FN Strictly regulates the prices that Distributors charge Dealers.

The only way Distributors can discount FN guns is when FN discontinues a model.

Why the price drop then? FN Inc changed their Sku numbers on two PS90 models and two FS2000 models.

Now Distributors can call those four models that have boxes labeled with the old Sku Discontinued.

When their all gone, prices will be going back up!

I hope MSAR does bring the STG556/E4 back. They could learn from some of there past mistakes and have a product on par with any thing else out there. I have enjoyed my STG556.

Ahh, and now we know why the FS2000 yo-yos in price so much.

shit, if they offer it in 300 BLK they would probably sell a million of the things

Steyr has announced new production for this year and the Tavor is supposed to be ready by election time....

She's pregnant, you can have her

never been to the SHOT Show have ya? promises and time tables are the specials of the day there. last year kel-tec said their shotgun was "just a few months" away. their display gun had faulty triggers and i knew it wouldn't happen. they don't borrow to expand and do what they can afford to do. very sound practice but but concumer friendly is it? i will have one of their rifles when they can be had for list...i am expecting to wait awhile lol.

tavor doesn't have a production line or even a building to made them. you have to realize how long it takes to do those things as well get the money for them. you're talking thousands, tens of thousands just in electricain fees to hook up the machines once they show up. permits, zoning, ffl hiring, traing qc etc etc.

msar made their move and never hooked up the machinery that did make the move. kinda hard to make guns without them. i think i heard that they only had six emploees. add in the fact that to come out of chapter 11 they have to settle their debts. may not be 100% but enough to make all parties somewhat happy. if they try to sell their largest creditor has the right to stop the sale to that party.usually back room deals that aren't exactly legal get done to make a sale happen. i saw this happen with a large formica dist that went bust. formica had the say who could buy the dist out since they were the largest company owed money by that dist. . the first company that wanted to buy the defunked dist formica didn't want (wouldn't pay back debt on the sly) so the second company....a formica dist already in the next state bought the company.

my point is there is alot that needs to be done to get msar back up in any form and it won't happen quickly if ever
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we'll see if steyr has the will to go through all the bs again to make the augs here. they may say the do but for what??? 250 rifles a year? they won't even make the .22lr kit whick i have to believe can be make anywhere and imported. get the feeling the aug ain't exactly top of their list? hell, even hk gave up and came out with their own ar.

I will gladly buy another MSAR E4, & a Tavor for sure.