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Posted: 9/7/2011 8:04:07 AM EST
[Last Edit: 9/7/2011 8:05:21 AM EST by Sgt_P]
I mentioned this in the Bullpup Shoot thread, and have gotten a couple of questions, so I thought I'd put a picture up...



I've talked with the guys at BullpupUnlimited.com and they say they are going to start shipping in October...

I'm trying to talk JJ into coming to the Shoot (or maybe he'll let me carry a sample with me...)
Link Posted: 9/7/2011 9:11:28 AM EST
[Last Edit: 9/7/2011 9:24:11 AM EST by asicmsar]
$279 to $359
BullpupUnlimited.com

Is there an external safety other than the "split" aka "glock" trigger. How does the slide release work and where is it located. What about magazine tube extensions.
Link Posted: 9/7/2011 9:16:22 AM EST
[Last Edit: 9/7/2011 9:17:25 AM EST by Sgt_P]


you could have a bullpup shotgun for under $500 if you find the right used 870 (no rib)
Link Posted: 9/7/2011 11:25:07 AM EST
[Last Edit: 9/7/2011 11:26:43 AM EST by Onslaught]
Now an Ithica or BPS bottom eject version NEEDS to be offered.

Also, with a name like "Bullpup UNlimited", does this mean they are planning to offer conversions for other firearms as well?
Link Posted: 9/7/2011 12:26:46 PM EST
Originally Posted By Sgt_P:
I mentioned this in the Bullpup Shoot thread, and have gotten a couple of questions, so I thought I'd put a picture up...

http://bullpupforum.com/gallery/1_25_08_11_7_20_15.gif

I've talked with the guys at BullpupUnlimited.com and they say they are going to start shipping in October...

I'm trying to talk JJ into coming to the Shoot (or maybe he'll let me carry a sample with me...)


Forget the sample. Bring a pallet full and if they're good stuff I'll bring a couple home. No need to go all Kel Tec now and just trickle stuff out.
Link Posted: 9/7/2011 1:45:36 PM EST
Link Posted: 9/7/2011 2:36:45 PM EST
The Mossberg is already off paper but still in prototype stage
Link Posted: 9/7/2011 2:42:36 PM EST
Originally Posted By hunter691:
The Mossberg is already off paper but still in prototype stage


Link Posted: 9/7/2011 4:18:29 PM EST
Originally Posted By hunter691:
The Mossberg is already off paper but still in prototype stage


I take it you might personally know something about it?

Shoot me a PM, we should talk...
Link Posted: 9/7/2011 5:36:23 PM EST
Originally Posted By asicmsar:


Is there an external safety other than the "split" aka "glock" trigger. How does the slide release work and where is it located. What about magazine tube extensions.


I haven't handled one yet, but from what I've been told, it uses the AR15 saftey, and can accept the ambi ones. The slide release is a button/ball on the underside just behind the bolt/tube loading port.
And any length mag tube/extension will work, but the barrel can't have a rib...

I don't want to speak for hunter691, but I know he's having some family issues and doesn't have constant access to a computer. So he can correct any of this next time he's on, if I missed something....

Link Posted: 9/7/2011 7:44:20 PM EST
Hell, I want to know if he can work one out for the common semiauto shotguns!
Link Posted: 9/7/2011 7:48:39 PM EST
how well built are these?
Link Posted: 9/7/2011 8:24:32 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/9/2011 4:29:37 PM EST by asicmsar]
Originally Posted By Sgt_P:
The slide release is a button/ball on the underside just behind the bolt/tube loading port.


That's too bad, but not a deal breaker. Seems like doing slug change overs and other manipulations might be a little more complicated.
Link Posted: 9/9/2011 5:48:47 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/9/2011 8:12:13 PM EST by HK_DUDE]
I am number 60.

Just some info that I have gotten from "JJ"

1. It uses a remington Gel Pad for a recoil pad. This is good to know, be cause other pads like Limb Savers, etc..will also work.
2. He is going to get me a LOP measurement.
3. I asked if a NEF Pardner 870 clone would fit and he is not sure. I will keep you posted once i get mine.
4. It will work with mag extensions on the gun.

I am excited about this and he said that they are currently on track to start shipping Oct. 1st. My birthday is October 4th, so it would be a great birthday gift

P.S. JJ has been very good ant responding to my e-mails in a timely manner.
Link Posted: 9/12/2011 8:08:17 AM EST
I want to hear a review or two before I buy, but I am very interested in this bullpup stock. I have always loved bullpups, but have never really seen a good option for them. The Mossberg factory guns were expensive and got bad reviews.

I really hope that it is significantly nicer than the Muzzlelite bullpup stocks from the 1990's. While the concept was nice, the stock very suspect in durability and the trigger pull really sucked. The Muzzlelite stocks used plastic linkage parts the flexed when you pulled the trigger. They also needed to be bedded with the rifle versions and the stock sights sucked.
Link Posted: 9/12/2011 8:53:33 AM EST
[Last Edit: 9/12/2011 8:53:59 AM EST by mdfd1]
Originally Posted By hunter691:
The Mossberg is already off paper but still in prototype stage


I was going to buy an aftermarket stock for my Moss590, but this is good to know. Perhaps I'll hold off until this is available and has been tested/evaluated...

JJ, I sent you an email a couple of weeks ago regarding the bullpup conversion kit for the Moss590. Only reply I got was "its being looked at", so this is good news I reckon...Any idea of when this might be available? I would be happy to evaluate a kit for you....

Link Posted: 9/12/2011 11:27:24 AM EST
I don't want to speak for JJ/hunter691, but if they seem to be focused on the 870, and will base the mossberg, etc, off the success and time-line of the 870.
Shipping to "pre-orders" from thier website is supposed to start on (or about October 1), and if they "fly off the shelves", I'd guess they'd be eager to create new lines...

JJ / hunter691 correct me if I'm off base...

FYI, JJ is the nicest, down-to-earth guy you could ever meet! (and his Mom seems to be doing well, he tells me!)
Link Posted: 9/12/2011 1:48:45 PM EST
They definitely seem to be focusing on the Rem 870 first. But once it is nailed down, it will be much faster to turn out the Moss 500/590 line next. The Rem 870 & Moss 500/590 are by far the most popular shotguns out there. Hopefully the Saiga-12 will be in the line up.
Link Posted: 9/13/2011 7:55:47 AM EST
ss trigger rods no flex
Link Posted: 9/13/2011 8:02:14 AM EST
[Last Edit: 9/13/2011 8:02:59 AM EST by HK_DUDE]
This thing has to be miles beyond the old muzzlelites..........and better be

I didn't have one of the muzzlelites for a shotgun, but the 10/22 and mini 14 models were a waste of time, money and plastic. But........they were the first ones I had ever seen available, so they were a pretty big deal back then.

Added....any pictures or movies of assembly?
Link Posted: 9/13/2011 8:18:53 AM EST
I won't handle one until September 23rd-24th, but in talking with JJ, he's quick to point out the failings of the muzzelite! He even jumped on the trigger issues in the old Mossberg 500 Bullpup (backstrap safety, etc)...

So it sounds like he wanted to produce a much better product. I'm looking forward to the Bullpup Shoot!!
Link Posted: 9/13/2011 9:16:09 AM EST
Originally Posted By Sgt_P:
I won't handle one until September 23rd-24th, but in talking with JJ, he's quick to point out the failings of the muzzelite! He even jumped on the trigger issues in the old Mossberg 500 Bullpup (backstrap safety, etc)...

So it sounds like he wanted to produce a much better product. I'm looking forward to the Bullpup Shoot!!


After speaking with JJ (who I can assure you is a great guy), I feel confident that this will be a solid piece of equipment, miles ahead of the muzzelite. I am anxious to try one out next weekend!
Link Posted: 9/13/2011 12:28:03 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/13/2011 12:32:13 PM EST by Onslaught]
Remington 870 express Left Handed

LEFTIES LIKE BULLPUPS TOO!!!

Link Posted: 9/13/2011 1:55:09 PM EST
My Email;

Hi,
I was wondering (praying to God) that you maybe putting your craftsmanship to work designing a bulpup stock for a Ruger Mini 14/30. I am also hopeful that the price point will reflect the civilian market. I really would like to see it not cost as much as the rifle.
Thanks
JRC

His Response;
The mini 14 has been descussed but would be a ways off , at this time we have the 870 unit coming out and the mossberg 500/590 in rough prototype and a large following wanting a semi-auto shotgun unit, these are our first goals but rifles have been talked about. As far as price it would just all depend on R&D cost plus cost to produce.
thanks for asking
JJ Hunter VP

Patients young Jedi, You will need patients.
MMMM
Link Posted: 9/13/2011 2:37:44 PM EST
Hell yes......I want bullpup everything:

10-22, Mini-14/30, Saiga rifles and shotguns, hell.....even bullpup precision bolt guns.
Link Posted: 9/13/2011 3:50:24 PM EST
Originally Posted By HK_DUDE:
Hell yes......I want bullpup everything:

10-22, Mini-14/30, Saiga rifles and shotguns, hell.....even bullpup precision bolt guns.


x2 !!!

Link Posted: 9/13/2011 4:21:03 PM EST
We are working hard to get everything the best we can, We in no way want to be thought of in the same respect as the Muzzelite unit and plan to do everthing we can not too. We are working to start with a good product and gain a good reputation from the. If anyone has any question please ask, we have just added the information flier for download on the web site.
Link Posted: 9/13/2011 4:49:33 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/13/2011 4:50:13 PM EST by HK_DUDE]
With the new pictures on the flyer....the pistol grip looks to be molded in. I was hoping it was standard AR, so I could add something Magpul.

Unless the pictures are deceiving??? Is the grip one piece with the rest of the stock?
Link Posted: 9/13/2011 4:56:03 PM EST
Originally Posted By HK_DUDE:
With the new pictures on the flyer....the pistol grip looks to be molded in. I was hoping it was standard AR, so I could add something Magpul.

Unless the pictures are deceiving??? Is the grip one piece with the rest of the stock?


Not sure what you are seeing, but to me it looks like the same bolt on A2 grip they show in every other picture...
Link Posted: 9/13/2011 5:02:54 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/13/2011 5:04:09 PM EST by hunter691]
I uses standard ar15 grip, someone makes a real large one that we had to trim all others we have tried work fine, it also uses standard ar15 safety and the lefty works also.
Link Posted: 9/13/2011 5:05:55 PM EST
Originally Posted By hunter691:
I uses standard ar15 grip, someone makes a real large one that we had to trim all others we have tried work fine, it also uses standard ar15 safety and the lefty works also.


That's why I asked if the pictures were deceiving.......I am SOOOOOOOOOOOOOO glad that it uses AR grips.

Sorry for the drama.....as you were
Link Posted: 9/13/2011 6:37:18 PM EST
Link Posted: 9/13/2011 6:58:20 PM EST
Originally Posted By Sgt_P:
870's 1st video :

link to Bullpup Unlimited's video


Sweet....I sooo need to get one of these, maybe I can use my "clout" to get one at the Bullpup Shoot, LOL!

Link Posted: 9/13/2011 7:00:36 PM EST
Originally Posted By hunter691:
I uses standard ar15 grip, someone makes a real large one that we had to trim all others we have tried work fine, it also uses standard ar15 safety and the lefty works also.


Holy smokes, standard AR grips, and standard AR safeties? That is just straight up impressive design work right there. I can't wait to put rounds downrange with one of these....
Link Posted: 9/14/2011 4:54:16 PM EST

Originally Posted By Sgt_P:
870's 1st video :

link to Bullpup Unlimited's video

????????

This video is no longer available because the uploader has closed their YouTube account.
Sorry about that.

Link Posted: 9/14/2011 5:05:42 PM EST
Originally Posted By cetane:

Originally Posted By Sgt_P:
870's 1st video :

link to Bullpup Unlimited's video

????????

This video is no longer available because the uploader has closed their YouTube account.
Sorry about that.



Where did it go??? Arghhhh!
Link Posted: 9/14/2011 5:08:08 PM EST
I never even got to see it live! The horror
Link Posted: 9/14/2011 9:05:56 PM EST
We're working on it sorry We did not know it was not working
Link Posted: 9/15/2011 6:32:46 AM EST
Video back up at
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LzULG7I1RfA
Link Posted: 9/15/2011 7:08:14 AM EST
Originally Posted By HK_DUDE:
Hell yes......I want bullpup everything:

10-22, Mini-14/30, Saiga rifles and shotguns, hell.....even bullpup precision bolt guns.


Oooh yeah, I ESPECIALLY want a precision bolt gun! (Savage is the lego rifle of the bolt world - hint hint)
Link Posted: 9/15/2011 7:11:46 AM EST

Originally Posted By hunter691:
Video back up at
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LzULG7I1RfA

Definitely interested in this.

Best of luck with your project!
Link Posted: 9/16/2011 11:54:14 PM EST
DO WANT!!!!!

Seriously are you accepting pre-orders?
Link Posted: 9/17/2011 1:24:31 AM EST
Link Posted: 9/17/2011 9:07:04 PM EST
What are you using for the trigger linkage? Is it done with something like bars or cables? For me the trigger design is what makes or breaks a bullpup and I'm a little cautious after getting a Kvar AK conversion years ago that used a wire for the linkage. I want to like this though, an 870 in this would be a good truck gun.
Link Posted: 9/18/2011 7:16:49 AM EST
JJ says it's got 2 stainless steel rods as the linkage.

I get to see/hold one on Friday (and then the Bullpup Shoot on Saturday! It's like waiting for Christmas!!!
Link Posted: 9/18/2011 9:19:36 PM EST
Sounds solid, I would like to hear some impressions of th trigger pull and see some pics of th mechanism. The description sounce like an AUG trigger system.
Link Posted: 9/19/2011 4:18:44 PM EST

Originally Posted By hunter691:
Video back up at
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LzULG7I1RfA

beautiful girl , nice looking bullpup.....but really shooting with a small child 2 feet away and plugging ears with fingers......not good
Link Posted: 9/19/2011 5:27:02 PM EST
Originally Posted By tommytomaso:

Originally Posted By hunter691:
Video back up at
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LzULG7I1RfA

beautiful girl , nice looking bullpup.....but really shooting with a small child 2 feet away and plugging ears with fingers......not good


And one round at the beginning.........................and one at the end. By the time they go through an extended mag full there will be KSGs in every corner shop.
Link Posted: 9/19/2011 8:03:57 PM EST
Neat design! This would make an awesome truck gun! Out of curiosity how much does shorten the overall length? I would love to put a metro barrel (a 30" extension thats helps cut back on noise without using a suppressor) on it and see how it handles compared to normal.
Link Posted: 9/20/2011 4:38:07 PM EST
Can we get a picture of the left side??????? Want to know if this stock would work with a left hand 870.

MadDog
Link Posted: 9/20/2011 4:46:49 PM EST
Originally Posted By stre-tch:
Neat design! This would make an awesome truck gun! Out of curiosity how much does shorten the overall length? I would love to put a metro barrel (a 30" extension thats helps cut back on noise without using a suppressor) on it and see how it handles compared to normal.


based on the dimensions on the website, it looks like it shaves about 10-11" off the length, and LOP looks the same for standard and the bullpup stock
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