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Posted: 3/16/2009 4:37:55 PM EST
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I found this interesting kit that I will be ordering for my Saiga-12

www.kushnapup.com

The kit costs $275. To order a kit, hit the Dealer Info link and send an email to Kushnapup.
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Posted: 3/16/2009 4:46:14 PM EST
Being a happy owner of a Saiga 12 and a bullpup lover, It's interesting.

It's not in production yet going by the website, but if people actually get them and they work well, I might pick one up too.

The only thing I don't like about it, is the fact that the ejection port is right next to and under your face. In a 12ga, if you get a
blowback or out of battery shot, say goodbye to part of your face. I'd like a thicker metal cover over that part with an extension
like a case deflector downward.

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Posted: 3/16/2009 5:06:27 PM EST
I would like to see one for the Saiga 762x39.
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Posted: 3/16/2009 6:52:51 PM EST
This looks cool
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I believe one of our guys here is working on one or was working on one until he had to go to Iraq.

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Posted: 3/16/2009 7:50:42 PM EST
The length of pull looks ridiculous. Looks like a 20+ inch length of pull
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Posted: 3/16/2009 8:12:09 PM EST
Originally Posted By ronin556:
The length of pull looks ridiculous. Looks like a 20+ inch length of pull



According to Saiga12.com LOP is 18in.
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Posted: 3/17/2009 4:54:28 PM EST
I think the scope is a little presumptuous but I would definitely be in for one.


Be afraid Comrade Obama the Bullpup has morphed with the AK and the Street Howitzer.

Ahhh, very nice the Kushnapup, the'll definiyely want to ban that one by name!
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Posted: 3/18/2009 1:47:16 AM EST
Originally Posted By SilentType:
I believe one of our guys here is working on one or was working on one until he had to go to Iraq.



Yup.

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Posted: 3/18/2009 3:33:35 AM EST
Originally Posted By SOC:
Originally Posted By SilentType:
I believe one of our guys here is working on one or was working on one until he had to go to Iraq.



Yup.

http://i35.tinypic.com/2s01ezq.jpg


Can you give details and/or pictures of your FCG assembly? The length of linkage needed has always been the bane of bullpups.

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Posted: 3/18/2009 3:44:29 AM EST
Originally Posted By buckmeister:
Originally Posted By SOC:
Originally Posted By SilentType:
I believe one of our guys here is working on one or was working on one until he had to go to Iraq.



Yup.

http://i35.tinypic.com/2s01ezq.jpg


Can you give details and/or pictures of your FCG assembly? The length of linkage needed has always been the bane of bullpups.

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FCG is a G2 with the trigger ground off (Making it what I call a hammer release) and the cable brazed to the top of the "Hammer release".

Someone said using stainless steal tig wire might be better than the bicycle break cable I'm using now.

Another solution is to drill a hole in the left side of the trunnion front to back just below the barrel and a rivet (Hard to show without a pic) and use a steel rod to connect the hammer release and trigger.

I will probably use the steel rod in the end as it will give the best trigger squeeze.
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Posted: 3/18/2009 5:42:01 AM EST
Originally Posted By Holloway:
I would like to see one for the Saiga 762x39.


These should fit in the K-var bullpup kit without too much trouble.
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Originally Posted By SOC:

FCG is a G2 with the trigger ground off (Making it what I call a hammer release) and the cable brazed to the top of the "Hammer release".

Someone said using stainless steal tig wire might be better than the bicycle break cable I'm using now.

Another solution is to drill a hole in the left side of the trunnion front to back just below the barrel and a rivet (Hard to show without a pic) and use a steel rod to connect the hammer release and trigger.

I will probably use the steel rod in the end as it will give the best trigger squeeze.


What cable is used in aircraft? Aircraft cable fittings and cable tensioners, or tie rods would allow for takeup. I think that bends in the wire give the mushy feel to bullpup trigger pull. Rods are an improvement only if they too remain straight.

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Originally Posted By SOC:
Originally Posted By SilentType:
I believe one of our guys here is working on one or was working on one until he had to go to Iraq.



Yup.

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Posted: 3/20/2009 5:09:47 PM EST
I got an email this evening from Bjorn Muller, the owner of Kushnapup. He stated that the kits are now in the molding process and should be available very soon. I'm now on the list to get one.

Bjorn also said that the kits are designed to utilize the bolt stop that's found on the current version of the Saiga 12.
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Posted: 3/20/2009 7:45:26 PM EST
18" LOP...no thank you.

But....cool idea.
Because "Clone_Dude" sounds even more stupid!
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bump4 updates
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Posted: 3/31/2009 2:18:19 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Optimus_Prime:
I got an email this evening from Bjorn Muller, the owner of Kushnapup. He stated that the kits are now in the molding process and should be available very soon. I'm now on the list to get one.

Bjorn also said that the kits are designed to utilize the bolt stop that's found on the current version of the Saiga 12.


Since you're communicating with him, could you please ask if they / he has reinforced the area above the place of ejection which is right under your face/eyes?
I'd hate to be under that if there is a misfire without any serious reinforcement there.
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Posted: 3/31/2009 2:22:17 PM EST
If the extreme LOP is due to keeping room for the 10rd mags.....I would like to move it back to about 15" and be restricted to only using the 5rd mags.......wonder if that is a possibility or not.
Because "Clone_Dude" sounds even more stupid!
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Posted: 3/31/2009 6:22:18 PM EST
$275 for shells in the face? Pass.
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Posted: 3/31/2009 7:23:28 PM EST
that's pretty cool
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Bump to see if anyone has heard anything about these. Website had not been updated since this was originally posted.
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Posted: 6/16/2009 4:19:04 PM EST
Now this would rock with that new 30 rnd drum I saw at the gunshow over the weekend.