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Posted: 2/2/2009 10:53:29 PM EDT
Hi, i would really like to get a bullpup rifle but i really have no idea what is out there, do you think we could get a stickied thread detailing what is available/
thanks

the only ones i am aware of are ....

bushmaster m7
aug and aug clones
the new keltec that is supposed to come out

Link Posted: 2/2/2009 10:58:17 PM EDT
Available in the US:

FNH PS90
FNH FS2000
Walther G22

Also, see this list:
List of bullpup firearms (Wikipedia)

Link Posted: 2/2/2009 11:32:47 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/2/2009 11:35:38 PM EDT by Armed_Scientist]
To the best of my knowledge:

Current Production
MSAR STG-556
TPD AXR
FNH FS2000
FNH PS90
Walther G22
Desert Tactical Arms SRS
AMP DSR-1
Barrett M-99
Barrett M-97

To be Released
Kel-Tec RFB
Steyr AUG A3

Out of Production but Realistically Attainable
Bushmaster M-17s
Bushmaster ARM pistol
Norinco type 86S
Valmet M82
Mossberg Maverick Bullpup shotgun

Out of Production and Rare
GIAT FAMAS Century imported under 1000 in the late 80s prior to the import ban, I've heard 500 and 900, not sure exactly how many but good luck finding one
SA-80/L85 Apperantly there are three semi auto SA-80/L85s in the US, two standard configuration one set up as a LSW. I'm actually fairly familiar with the convoluted story behind those but that's another post.
Walther WA2000 less then 200 produced, available if you're willing to drop $75k


I'm pretty sure that's all the bullpups that have been on the US market, if I missed any please correct me.
Link Posted: 2/2/2009 11:34:58 PM EDT
Use to own

Bushmaster M17S

Own now

Steyr AUG
Steyr USR
Mossberg bullpup shotgun
PS90
FS2000 standard
FS2000 tactical

Want to own

Kel-tec RFB
Norinco 86s bullpup

No wish to own

Walther G22
AGM-1 (I think there is only one in the US) it is a 9mm bullpup which takes Browning hi-power mags

Just a dream

FAMAS
SA-80
That new chinese bullpup rifle
Tavor
Link Posted: 2/3/2009 12:18:07 AM EDT
There were 100 FAMAS semi auto copies (some sources report 120) imported into the U.S. in 1989 by Century Arms.

Link Posted: 2/3/2009 12:43:45 AM EDT
High Standard HS-10 (out of production shotgun)
Link Posted: 2/3/2009 2:37:32 AM EDT
As far as assault rifles go, I think the realistic list of weapons available in the US is:

Steyr AUG/USR
MSAR STG-556, E4
TPD AXR
Kel-Tec RFB
Bushmaster M17S
FNH PS90
FNH FS2000

The rest mentioned so far are either stupendously expensive (collectors only) or other weapon types like precision rifle, shotgun.

Really not that much to choose from when you think about it. Where's our damn Tavor?
Link Posted: 2/3/2009 10:46:40 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/3/2009 10:47:31 AM EDT by Vellcrow]
You can also put a Mini 14, Mini 30, or 10/22 in a Muzzlelite bullpup stock.

There is also the Century Arms AK bullpup and the hard to find KVAR bullpup stocks for the AK.

Link Posted: 2/3/2009 1:19:04 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/4/2009 11:48:05 AM EDT by HardShell]
Link Posted: 2/3/2009 7:33:54 PM EDT

Jager AP85 FAMAS copy in .22lr

HK CAWS bullpup shotgun

HK OWIC 20mm bullpup

Barrett XM500

Barrett M95

M14 bullpup

I cannot think of the name but there was a pump action .308 bullpup that was imported from Germany about 10 years ago. I remember they were expensive.



Link Posted: 2/3/2009 9:38:23 PM EDT
Originally Posted By A-Rob:
High Standard HS-10 (out of production shotgun)



I actaully saw not one but three of these for sale at a recent gunshow, all form the same vendor, well used for $600 each. They were high-tech in their day with a built in flashlight and everything, but these days the flashlight looks comically huge- basically a Maglight mounted over the barrrel in the integral plastic body of the weapon.
Link Posted: 2/4/2009 12:37:48 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Dawg180:
Originally Posted By A-Rob:
High Standard HS-10 (out of production shotgun)



I actaully saw not one but three of these for sale at a recent gunshow, all form the same vendor, well used for $600 each. They were high-tech in their day with a built in flashlight and everything, but these days the flashlight looks comically huge- basically a Maglight mounted over the barrrel in the integral plastic body of the weapon.



It is still an awesome shotgun. I traded mine years ago and that was a huge mistake.

Link Posted: 2/4/2009 11:37:56 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/4/2009 11:50:01 AM EDT by HardShell]
Link Posted: 2/4/2009 7:46:06 PM EDT
If you guys feel like updating/creating Wikipedia articles on weapons that are missing from this list, I'm sure there are those who would appreciate it. I'm not sure how many Wikipedia-haters there are here...

I think I might start an article on the TPD AXR. Currently, the TPD AXR and MSAR STG-556 are only mentioned in the Steyr AUG article.
Link Posted: 2/5/2009 5:53:15 AM EDT
awesome list, ever since I got my PS90 I have wanted at least one more bull pup. In the final cleaned up version can you post pics too?
Link Posted: 2/5/2009 8:02:22 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/7/2009 11:34:00 AM EDT by Optimus_Prime]
Currently available:

FN FS2000 Standard
FN FS2000 Tactical
FN PS90USG
FN PS90RD
FN PS90TR
MSAR STG-556
TPD AXR
Barrett M95
Barrett M99
Walther G22

Soon to be available:

DTA Stealth Recon Scout
Kel-Tec RFB
MSAR STG-E4
Steyr AUG A3

No longer made and/or imported, but still can be found on sites such as GunBroker:

Barrett M82A2
Bushmaster Arm Pistol
Bushmaster M17S
Century GP1975
Jager FAMAS .22LR
Norinco Type 86-S
Valmet M82

No longer made and/or imported and you need to be a millionaire to own one:

AWC G2
SA80
FAMAS

Wishful thinking as far as owning any one of these listed below and with the current resident in the White House, I'd hate to say it, but you can keep on dreaming 'cause it ain't gonna happen as long as he's in the White House:

DIO KH-2002 Khaybar (Made in Iran)
GIAT FAMAS (Made in France)
Groza OC-14 (Made in Russia)
HS Produkt VHS (Made in Croatia)
IWI Tavor (Made in Israel)
KBP A-91M (Made in Russia)
Norinco CAR-95 (Made in China)
Norinco QBZ-95 (Made in China)
Norinco QBZ-97 (Made in China)
SA80/L85A2 (Made in England)
STK SAR-21 (Made in Singapore)
Vepr (Made in Ukraine)
Vector CR-21 (Made in South Africa)

Bullpup conversion kits:

Dixie Consolidated 10/22 bullpup stock
K-Var AKU-94 AK bullpup stock
Muzzelite bullpup stock for the 10/22, Mini-14, Mini-30, Marlin Camp Carbine, Marlin 60, Marlin 70

Rifletech SKS Bullpup Conversion Kit
Link Posted: 2/12/2009 3:57:40 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/12/2009 4:00:11 AM EDT by KCMojo]
Originally Posted By Dawg180:
There were 100 FAMAS semi auto copies (some sources report 120) imported into the U.S. in 1989 by Century Arms.



One of the 100 FAMAS are on Gunbroker right now. $13K woof

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=122016354

Giat F1 FAMAS 223 (Comes with BB gun version too)



Thats the one you should get. Now you have to let me shoot it for finding it for you.
Link Posted: 3/16/2009 9:29:55 PM EDT
This post only refers to bullpup shotguns.

No longer made, but can still get them on GunBroker:

Mossberg 6 & 8-shot bullpup shotguns
Hi-Standard Model 10

Currently made, but not allowed to be imported, especially now that we have a moron in the White House and another moron as Attorney General:

Neosted bullpup shotgun

Now available as a kit:

Kushnapup bullpup shotgun conversion kit for the Saiga-12

www.kushnapup.com
Link Posted: 3/16/2009 11:50:51 PM EDT
Allow me to correct you, it's NeoStead.

Pretty interesting.
Link Posted: 3/25/2009 1:43:51 PM EDT
is the rfb out now?
Link Posted: 3/29/2009 9:05:22 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Dawg180:
There were 100 FAMAS semi auto copies (some sources report 120) imported into the U.S. in 1989 by Century Arms.



Saw one at the gun store here a few months back and it was going for $12K!
Link Posted: 4/21/2009 10:52:24 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/21/2009 10:53:44 PM EDT by echofivekilo]
I didn't see the MSAR MCS listed. It's not out yet but, should be available later this year.

ETA: http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=6&f=43&t=236968
Link Posted: 6/2/2009 11:58:34 AM EDT
Originally Posted By A-Rob:
High Standard HS-10 (out of production shotgun)


These shotguns are highly underrated! Nothing quite like a 12ga that you can fire like a large pistol, one-handed & still hit your mark...


http://i44.tinypic.com/kahdnq.jpg

http://i41.tinypic.com/2jb60w1.jpg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ejakg9yU1Qw
Link Posted: 6/2/2009 12:21:27 PM EDT
Ironwood Designs SG2000, I will see if I have any pics of my old one...
Link Posted: 6/2/2009 3:37:04 PM EDT
Originally Posted By eternal24k:
Ironwood Designs SG2000, I will see if I have any pics of my old one...


http://i41.tinypic.com/7266pe.jpg



Link Posted: 6/4/2009 9:01:09 PM EDT
Vellcrow mentioned:
You can also put a Mini 14, Mini 30, or 10/22 in a Muzzlelite bullpup stock.


http://www.muzzelite.com
Link Posted: 6/4/2009 9:20:47 PM EDT
Link Posted: 7/20/2009 9:44:55 PM EDT
I had a camp 9 in a muzzelite stock as well.
Link Posted: 8/3/2009 11:41:21 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/29/2009 8:36:43 PM EDT by HardShell]
Link Posted: 10/11/2009 2:48:44 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/11/2009 2:50:41 AM EDT by MatthewVanitas]
Just for the sake of completeness:

Apparently Sommers Ockenfuss made various bullpup bolt-action rifles:



While I'm here, this thread also left out the Prairie River muzzleloader bullpup. I almost bought one of these in 2000, and they were only $300ish then. Too bad I didn't, that would've been major bullpup cred:

Link Posted: 10/28/2009 11:04:47 PM EDT
The Kintrek KBP-1 is a .22 LR Bullpup semi-automatic rifle chambered for the .22 LR cartridge. It was manufactured for only 1 year (1991) by Kintrek Incorporated in Owensboro, Kentucky. (Wikipedia)

Really interesting rifle. Pivoting sweeper pushes spent rounds into a disposal chute to the bottom of the stock. Plastic magazines have a spiral wound spring that pulls the follower up. Squeeze grip safety.
Link Posted: 10/29/2009 7:26:23 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Plattekill:
The Kintrek KBP-1 is a .22 LR Bullpup semi-automatic rifle chambered for the .22 LR cartridge. It was manufactured for only 1 year (1991) by Kintrek Incorporated in Owensboro, Kentucky. (Wikipedia)

Really interesting rifle. Pivoting sweeper pushes spent rounds into a disposal chute to the bottom of the stock. Plastic magazines have a spiral wound spring that pulls the follower up. Squeeze grip safety.


I had a KBP-1 several years ago. I've got pics around here somewhere; I'll try to dig them up & post later.

Here's a post I made at subguns.com awhile back: http://www.subguns.com/boards/semimsgarchive.cgi?read=111444

Link Posted: 10/29/2009 8:20:07 PM EDT




Link Posted: 10/29/2009 8:23:05 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/29/2009 8:25:57 PM EDT by stymie]






Link Posted: 10/29/2009 8:38:13 PM EDT
Link Posted: 11/6/2009 12:44:40 AM EDT
If there are any bullpups worth noting that aren't on this list, by all means add them:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_bullpup_firearms
Link Posted: 11/25/2009 6:57:23 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 6/18/2010 1:08:26 PM EDT by benchpress]
Originally Posted By Dawg180:
There were 100 FAMAS semi auto copies (some sources report 120) imported into the U.S. in 1989 by Century Arms.



Mine has a serial that puts it over 100 and I'm aware of another one that is in the 120 range.
Link Posted: 3/26/2010 4:43:47 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/1/2015 9:27:15 PM EDT by JHS]
Here is one, a custom all-billet cnc rifle, takes 10-22 magazines, with an adjustable pull weight electronic trigger like the Pardini and Match Guns olympic semiauto pistols.

http://i611.photobucket.com/albums/tt194/BulZiPhoto/imagejpg1-2.jpg
Link Posted: 4/20/2010 12:41:56 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Vellcrow:
You can also put a Mini 14, Mini 30, or 10/22 in a Muzzlelite bullpup stock.

There is also the Century Arms AK bullpup and the hard to find KVAR bullpup stocks for the AK.



Saw the kit in the latest Spotsmen's Guide catalog they mailed me.....for about $197, They used to sell for almost half that price.
Link Posted: 4/20/2010 12:44:20 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Dawg180:
Originally Posted By A-Rob:
High Standard HS-10 (out of production shotgun)



I actaully saw not one but three of these for sale at a recent gunshow, all form the same vendor, well used for $600 each. They were high-tech in their day with a built in flashlight and everything, but these days the flashlight looks comically huge- basically a Maglight mounted over the barrrel in the integral plastic body of the weapon.


But in "Shaft's Big Score," Shaft shot a helicopter full of AR-15 armed Mafia guys down with one of those. But then again, they say this cat Shaft is a bad mother......
Link Posted: 4/20/2010 1:09:49 AM EDT


Link Posted: 4/20/2010 1:20:37 AM EDT
Fabricate a rail & add whatever flashlight... floats your boat!

Link Posted: 4/21/2010 3:55:45 PM EDT
so,
did you guys get your Highstandards to run? I heard they were always troublsome and could never really be made 100% reliable.

I would be glad to be wrong.

Course, I would probably just Bullpup a S12 before I got a HS, since I'm already into that.
Link Posted: 6/6/2010 4:50:04 PM EDT
I don't believe that the Pfeiffer-Waffen Handy Hunter has been mentioned yet:

http://www.snipersystems.co.uk/id7.html
Link Posted: 6/7/2010 10:04:11 AM EDT
Originally Posted By rightwingnut:
so,
did you guys get your Highstandards to run? I heard they were always troublsome and could never really be made 100% reliable.

I would be glad to be wrong.

Course, I would probably just Bullpup a S12 before I got a HS, since I'm already into that.


YOU hear a LOT of stuff on the internet that really isn't 100% reliable... Someone reads something where someone says they heard that someone else HAD problems with (fill-inda-blanques). A few thousand someones read that post & the next thing you know... it's GOSPEL or something. Nothing beats hands-on experience in my book... NOTHING! After awhile, you get e'nuff folks repeating the same cr@p over & over; it's what I call "REGURGITATING PARROT SYNDROME™"

"I thought that I was wrong once... I was mistaken!"
-Steven Wright

The Model 10A & Model 10B POLICE bullpup shotguns were a radical departure & way ahead of their time. Whether it's a shotgun or a small carbine, it's hard to beat a full-power/compact weapon system for vehicular use & CQB; a bullpup excels in that role. Some say... that parts are NOT available & the gun is a collector's piece. Charles Cholly Steen of SARCO has 400 complete* parts kits available for the 10B series... receiver, furniture, barrel etc. The ONLY exclusion is the proverbial *KEL-LITE & mounting bracket. I tried to talk him into building those kits into guns, but he said that he already had too many irons in the fire. Fine... that gives me a lifetime's worth of parts in case something breaks or just wears out. I've owned two 10As & two 10Bs & never broke anything. Like a Benelli M1 Super90, they do not prefer "light" tactical loads & run like a champ on moderate to high powered slugs & buckshot. You can't easily run a conventional 12ga shotgun with one hand, but the High Standard bullpups are designed to be fired that way if necessary... cuffing a perp or firing from an open cruiser window with the other hand on the steering wheel. These are highly underrated weapons & those who know, covet them. Most of the bullpups you see at gun shows these days are beat to hell & mint examples command a premium.
Link Posted: 6/17/2010 5:18:12 AM EDT
There's a soon-to-be-released SKS bullpup kit coming out soon. I may pony up and order one, but I'm tempted to wait until someone has one in their hot little hands to give an objective review.



http://sgworks.com
Link Posted: 7/24/2010 5:03:35 PM EDT
That SKS bullpup kit from Shernic Gun Works is supposed to start shipping out on 8/8/10 to those who have pre-ordered them on a first-come, first-serve basis.
Link Posted: 7/24/2010 10:32:15 PM EDT
Link Posted: 7/29/2010 10:35:36 PM EDT
Center Balanced Rifle Platform Systems (CBRPS) will be coming out with a AK bullpup stock.

It looks awesome!
Link Posted: 7/30/2010 4:26:00 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Optimus_Prime:
Center Balanced Rifle Platform Systems (CBRPS) will be coming out with a AK bullpup stock.

It looks awesome!


their Law enforcement/mil ploy is borderline insanity though.. they are sadly mistaken if they think that would ever take off..

they need to focus on reality, and civilian bullpup fans
Link Posted: 7/30/2010 11:11:32 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Friendly_Crusader:
their Law enforcement/mil ploy is borderline insanity though.. they are sadly mistaken if they think that would ever take off..

they need to focus on reality, and civilian bullpup fans


Their upcoming civilian AK bullpup kit is called the Spike. There are pics of it on their web site.

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