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Posted: 6/23/2017 4:14:59 AM EDT
Added  45 Long Colt hand loading  2 page article, 5th post below.

I can't thank this  forum and the active members enough for all the resources and education on reloading they provide.

I hope posting these old advertisements will  bring back fond memories.  Along with reflection on there has never been a right answer for "which brand?" other than "...plan to expand" for best advice.  

I added the source information for later on when images  are downloaded and uploaded elsewhere  by different people as images tend to migrate and loose the where & when.

Is the added text too much of a distraction?

American Handgunner March April 1978 page 15 RCBS Reloader



The 0-7 with the 30 degree rotation for better viewing.....

American Handgunner Sept Oct 1980 page 21 The 0-7 by Pacific Div Hornady.jpg



American Handgunner Sept Oct 1980 page 40 The Pacific 0-7 by Pacific Division of  Hornady gear . This 2nd mention looked a like a new gear type editor blurb, which  often were rehashed press kit and regular advertising information.




American Handgunner Sept Oct 1980 Issue 25 Page 62 The CPM Progressive Reloader CPM Industries  Norwalk, Ohio



American Handgunner July August1981 Issue 30 page 3 LYMAN T-MAG  reloading press



American Handgunner July August 1981 Issue 30 page 57 DillonN RL300 $335.00 FOB  Progressive Reloading press .
Quote from   https://www.dillonprecision.com/about-us.html "Our first hobby-level progressive loader – The RL-300 – was a major learning experience. We built maybe 900 or 1000 of them, and lost about $100 on each one."




Let us be thankful that days of "Corrosive Primers" is ancient history. Kids today with  their complaints of surplus ammo  being dirty to shoot    Go get  on my lawn about 300 yard out.....  

American Handgunner Nov Dec 1980 Issue 26 page 53 Dynamit Nobel RWS Reloading Primers that are both  Non corrosive & Non Mercuric. Dynamit was founded back onJune 21, 1865; 151 years ago




Then we have bullets.

American Handgunner March April 1978 page 16  
Hornady Bullets  with  New 9mm cal 90gr HP , 38 cal 125gr FP,  45 cal 185gr HP acp & 230gr FMJ acp . With 105 options in 1978, what are they up to today?




American Handgunner Nov Dec 1980 Issue 26 page 27 Hornady 45 cal ACP 230gr bullet Hard Ball  now in Flat Point




American Handgunner Nov Dec 1980 Issue 26 page 69 "Remington  Reloading Zone"  Handgun bullets
9mm 115JHP, 124 MC, 357 cal. 110SJHP, 125SJHP, 158SP, 158 SJHP,158 LDSWC,   38 cal 95 SJHP, 110SJHP, 125 SJHP, 148 LDWC, 158 LDSWC,
41 mag. 210SP, 210LD 44cal 180 SJHP, 240SP, 240SJHP, 240LDGC,240LD 45 cal 185MCWC, 185JHP, 230MC,230 LD, 250 LD




American Handgunner July August 1981 Issue 30 page 10 Dyamit Nobel of Northvale N.J.  with    RWS,   Rottweil , and Geco brands/companies
RWS Sinoxid Boxer &  Sinoxid Berden  primers  
RWS centerfire rifle cases &bullets  
Rottweil slugs,
Geco Pistol and revolver cases & bullets



Reposting  an image below from a previous post

That Price of powder is killing us http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_6_42/461170_.html April 4th 2016 thread has history of what happen to the  Kunkles store for selling of and then the later family finally calling it quits due to big boxes and internet. From about 1840 to 2007, a store that  sold sporting goods, hardware, seed and even steam locomotives and automobiles during its history. I can't imagine being a kid and seeing steam engines for sale at the local store, meanwhile the people who did couldn't envision our world without.

Guns May 1955 DuPont  4227  , 4198 , 3031 , 4084, 4320, 4350 powder at 2 bucks a pound   for sale by  Kunkles of Davenport Iowa Although #4759  &  #6 per 8oz is only $1.25
With Remington NCNM 1 1/2, 2 1/2, 6 1/2, 9 1/2, primers per M(thousand I'm guessing)  at $8.05


Sources if anyone wants to read the full issues which have Handgun reloading articles https://americanhandgunner.com/classic-handgunner-editions/

The source of post  & the price of powders in 1955 came from the adverts in https://gunsmagazine.com/classic-guns-magazine-editions/
Link Posted: 6/23/2017 4:48:44 AM EDT
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Nothing like the good 'ol days.  I wasn't reloading back then but great to see these ads.
Link Posted: 6/23/2017 8:19:21 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 6/23/2017 12:17:07 PM EDT
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CPM think Star Reloaders
Square Deal Press came out in the fall of 86

I got a Xmas present in 1974.  RBCS Jr press that was stamped "73" and shell holder, trim die, die set for 308 the die set was stamped 74.
The Jr press is still working for the fellow I gave it to.
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Nice post, I had never heard of the CPM progressive.

Back in 1980, I had only been reloading for 3 years.

357 and 30-30 on my RCBS JR. Had about 100 357 cases and 40 30-30, those cases got shot a lot.

I bought my first Dillon Square Deal in 357 in the mid 80's when they first came out.

No internet back then, so we learned by reading the front of a reloading manual or magazine articles.

But you could go to any gas station and haul away one or 2  5 gallon buckets of wheel weights.

Glad I acquired a lot, I'm still using lead from those days.
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Thank you. Glad I give something back useful to the community.

I saved my brass (even the old Federal(?) 20 round plastic pouch holding 4,   5 cartridge  trays in the package) from my 30-30 for reloading. Decades before I would become truly interested and start to reach enough knowledge to start  venturing into reloading and buying supplies. I even still have my first brass case shot from  the "finally turning 18 so I could buy a gun".  I'm still torn about ever reloading it, due to special status. It doesn't deserve to collect dust but it's still pure in way.  Growing up in anti-guns house  was torture.  Even the BB gun would some how kill someone  several miles away....     Does reusing BBs count as reloading?


Back before the internet, people were a lot more generous and weren't as price oriented of old and/or waste objects. Newsgroups  did helped people buy items that were on a shelf somewhere way away from the person looking for one but that brought with it everything should be sold for what it is worth, with their time and special owner tax added in to that price. Old lead wheel weights to used/worn out fryer oil, all have felt the if someone wants it,   I must get paid for it effect. Even if it is their trash and you're saving them disposal fees.

The days of magazine articles, you usually had ether a basic 101 ".... this is a press..." "... this is the lever..."   that didn't explain dies or you had the more advance articles. Plus having to search every magazine all through the year hoping your caliber would come up  and bullets and powder tables  for the type of shooting you did.
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I didn't want to add a new post to the first page , but wanted to add this article to the history and information in this forum.   If larger images are needed for easier reading Please let me know.

Hand Loading  the  45 Long Colt ( .45LC  ) by Dan Cotterman  , from American HandGunner   July /August  1980 issue #24  from pages 30 & 31








I just right clicked on the page and it opened large enough to read. (Chrome) dryflash3
Link Posted: 6/25/2017 3:53:42 PM EDT
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That Dillon was $900 in today's dollars.

1955 $2 powder is $18 today.
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That Dillon was $900 in today's dollars.
Amazing for how much advances in automation with  CAD designs on CNC machines has led to for price and interchangeable parts. We don't have to buy the same dies for each brand of press.

I'm curious what was the typical (no such thing I know...) amount of dies sets one would have for reasonable caliber collection in 1970-1980's verses in the 2000-2010's?
 Factoring in for while we have newer and more calibers, they also had older common but calibers that have dwindle to specialist/antique reloading (IE: .32-20 Winchester, would cancel out 300 AAC Blackout, even though people still load use .32-20 today), so that might be wash for tilting of the scale. I figure the 1930-1950's(and earlier) numbers would of course been higher for amounts of calibers and equipment still in families and on farms.  Back when the luxury of ordering bullets was of higher cost and long waits, oh how they would mock us today.


1955 $2 powder is $18 today.
Amazing how much cheaper powder would be without the increases that come from  all the B.S. taxes, licenses, haz.mat, etc.. fees that drive up the costs.

Every time I think about the cost of hazmet shipping fees, I think about how it pretty much killed the sport of model rocketry.

Hazmat fees are like an anti-freedom and anti-fun  tax.

That stuck  another fork in educational toys, at least the drone craze  is helping to reintroduce some of the RC plane hobby.  Loading model rockets and learning your engine charge types for flight height, length, duration,  powder charge and delay tables was a gateway into understanding reloading and ballistics.
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If I recall correctly, the RL300 was produced in very limited numbers, largely due to the fact that it was so expensive to manufacture. In fact I believe I read an article or something from the original owner stating they actually lost money on the sale of each RL300. I think I've seen one for sale on eBay, but it sold for some ridiculous price.
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If I recall correctly, the RL300 was produced in very limited numbers, largely due to the fact that it was so expensive to manufacture. In fact I believe I read an article or something from the original owner stating they actually lost money on the sale of each RL300. I think I've seen one for sale on eBay, but it sold for some ridiculous price.
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That's seems to be the  what happened.
From
https://www.dillonprecision.com/about-us.html    "Our first hobby-level progressive loader – The RL-300 – was a major learning experience. We built maybe 900 or 1000 of them, and lost about $100 on each one."   So expensive and what was an unintended lost leader, basically an albatross . Ironically Dilion would probably warranty service it fully. The few of them out their are coming up for the estate sales cycling through the market. Although it will be the sharp eyes that pick them out amongst the pile of parts.

This forum thread contradicts that number with saying only 300 were made,  but the person has 3 of them with pictures on the thread http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?96650-Dillon-RL-300 . Which imagine if you owned 1% of one of the Dillion's presses.
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