You can get there with a LNL, but it take a lot of tweaks  and extra parts that Horrnady does not offer to pull such off.
Same goes for the RCBS, if you don't mind adding Dillon parts to it, since RCBS does not make a case feed hopper.

The 650 runs correctly right out the box; with both the LNL and 650 with case feeders about the same price to start with. On the RCBS 7 station machine, its really trying to compete with the 1050, and it worlds below the 1050 isntead.

Bluntly, the 650 and 1050 are the gold bench marks for reloaders in there class, and the other presses being offered, lacking in these standards key points isntead.

KB's on the 650 are always op produced.   The problem is the op tries to slam a primer into the case primer channel, instead of being gently on the handle and stopping if they feel a problem of the primer not wanting to seat instead.

And to help you get better sensation of what is happening as you are seating a primer in place through the lever handle, adding in the roller bearing roller cam increases this feed back.  Hence on the stock rod, the end is just rounded steel, against a greased cam block.  So if the block grease starts to wear off, or the cam block surface starts to get marred, you are feeling this more on the lever than the primer going into the case primer channel instead.

Simply at handling back to primer, there is only two things going on.  The primer being seated in the case primer channel and the cam pin riding up the cam block to feed the case the last of the way into the shell holder.  By smoothing out the tension of the cam pin to the cam block with a roller cam pin, this gives better  lever feed back of the primer going into the case primer pocket instead.  The better feed back you have when the primer is not seating correctly (and not just speed slamming the handle back), the better chance you have stopping pushing back on the handle before you blow up a primer isntead (and having it chain spark to set the primers off in the tube as well).




Note wear on the cam block is from  the OEM round tip pin, and not the new roller cam pin instead.

And truth is, more guys have blown primers on the 1050 by not keeping the swager in play at all times, then guys that have blown primers on the 650.
The difference, when you blow a primer on a 1050, it does not cause a chain reaction spark that ends up blowing the primers in the tube as well.
Note, don't get me started on the 1050 head not having any channel threads above the primer station, much less a spark arrestor in the tool head position when a primer does blow during insertion.  Note only would this retain any blown primer sparks in the arrestor die itself, but would add a plate tension point to the shell holder at the primer station for not only more precise primer seating, but to even out the shell pressure plate tension on back right hand side of the shell plate as well.

Hence a  blown primer spark arrested die on the 1050, and the roller cam on the 650 should be OEM upgrades on both machines some time ago.

Can't say that the LNL primer system is perfect, since you still run into the debris problems in the  slider channel that causes problem instead.


RCBS resolved this problem in their sub plate by adding in a debris releif channel, but did go backwards on the rest of the primer system instead.

Hence on the LNL system, if the primer slider has problems, then it just pops the slide guide rod pin out of its lower base cup, so you don't break the slider isntead.
Also, there is adjustment in the LNL slider return to home position, which allows you to adjust the guide rod to center the primer channel in the slide under the tube drop point as the machine starts to get some wear to it.

So where RCBS screws up, was its primer guide rod rail.  What is should have been is a rail system that should have allowed it to break free/ quickly reset if the slider did run into problems ( Like the LNL machine, instead of being bolted solid to the machine), the primer slide being roller guided against the rail like on the LNL, and having adjustment in the pop away rail system that would allow fine tuning of the slider return to home position as well.
Note, not even going to bring up that RCBS should have never designed the feed spring to rub against the primer tube housing body to begin with.

http://rcbs.com/getmedia/89bb016e-6f03-48c3-a3b1-1fe8730366ed/ProChucker-Instructions-Edit-07-May.aspx

Truth is, with the spotty introduction of the machine with problems, them not offering a shell feeder hopper still, and the still on going problem with the machine, see a new machine already in the works, with the current pro being disconnected some time in the near future instead.

With any luck, it will be bases around the Pro-2000 with case feeder system, and will bring back the APS primer system; which has always been the safest primer system as well (not only on the machine in play, but having strips pre-load as well (which you can not do with primer fill tubes long term in fear of a spark setting off the primer dust in the tube isntead).

The hand damage came from a primer pick up tube and it can happen on any machine!!!!

The problem is that primer dust can collect in the  tubes over time (as well as the machines primer tube), and why you have to keep the primer dust cleaned out of them!

Hence it was the primer dust in the tubes (primer pick up tube he was holding in his had to fill the machine's primer tube) that first ignited when the cotter pin was pulled to allow the primer to drop out of the primer tube and into the machines primer tube, that lead to the chain fire of the primers in the primer tubes next as they where dropping out of the primer pick up tube to the machines fill tube.  The machines tube has a blast shield on it, but since you are both holding the pick up tube with your hand, and right over the top of the machines tube, your still not shield from the Primers going off.


Simply, this is the reason that I love the RCBS APS primer system.  All the primers are on a plastic strip side by side, and regarding refilling the strip clips, it just too easy to throw them in the dish washer to pre-clean any primer dust off them if you are going to reuse them, or just buy new strips that are pre-loaded with primers isntead.  

Missing the point,

Each strip holds 25 primers, but since they can be snapped together, it would be a matter of the suport ramp lenght for the strips to allow more strips to be clipped to together at time  instead.

On a RCBS 2000, you start with just one strip to begin with, and when the end of strip gets to the edge of the support ramp for it, you just clip another full strip to the end of the  strip in play and keep on going reloading.  Hence even if you only have a support ramp for 4 strips to be linked at one time, its the ability to have a shit ton of loaded strips pre-loaded and stored to bring into play instead (something that you don't do with primer pick up tube, and empty any you have loaded when you are down reloading instead).

after watching How to load the strips, skip to 7:45 to see how the strips chain up so you can just keep reloading (hell of lot faster that having to load a tube with a primer drop tube as well).
[youtube]https://youtu.be/wnfeTPZeOMQ[/youtube]

So say a 1050 was running APS strips, you could have a suport ramp for the strip any lenght you wanted, and work in this amount of strips when it time to added more primed strips.

Enough on primer kbooms, back on topic of which brand to buy.

The 650, since it both runs right out of the box without needing a boat load of tweaks or mods (unlike a LNL), and comes with a electrical case feed hopper (unlike the RCBS unit, and which RCBS does not even sell one for the system).

I'm tired of editing this thread, so you got it locked.