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Posted: 11/24/2015 9:06:48 PM EDT
I have some Nosler .429 bullets for my 44mag. I wanted to try some in the 44-40 which tend to be smaller (.427 or so). I normally run cast in 44-40 but was wondering if anyone ever sized any down?

Of course, I already tried a few and all seems ok. I am not thinking the results will be as accurate as bullets made for the purpose. But they look ok.

Anyone have experience with this? Issues? tips? Wanted to ask before I go nuts with it.

thanks!
Link Posted: 11/24/2015 9:24:29 PM EDT
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Check the diameter of those bullets, I recently bought some Nosler 240 SJHP and they are .428 with some even closer to
427, giving me fits in my .44 revolver. I just mailed a sample in to them for them to check out. If I get somewhere with a better signal I'll post a pic of one in a micrometer.
Link Posted: 11/24/2015 9:39:27 PM EDT
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Check the diameter of those bullets, I recently bought some Nosler 240 SJHP and they are .428 with some even closer to
427, giving me fits in my .44 revolver. I just mailed a sample in to them for them to check out. If I get somewhere with a better signal I'll post a pic of one in a micrometer.
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Only had a couple 240's to measure. Just below .429. But I plan on trying a 200gr instead. Will know when I get them.
Link Posted: 11/24/2015 9:41:03 PM EDT
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Crappy.cellphone pic

Link Posted: 11/24/2015 9:44:10 PM EDT
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wow. Well, I would hope for that for my next batch but I don't want to measure every one!

Link Posted: 11/25/2015 12:02:33 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 11/25/2015 12:37:44 AM EDT
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I have resized jacketed bullets in the Lee push through sizing dies. $20

Spray bullet with case lube and run through sizer, pretty easy.


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Doing a 31 cal powder coat bullet here. Same equipment for jacketed bullets.
 
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Been reading about those. I have resized cast .459 down to .452 on the RCBS. However, maybe running a bunch of jacket bullets on the RCBS (although less sizing), would be better on the Lee...

Although, the RCBS has built in lubing  Not sure the bullet lube is as smooth running as a case type lube.

Only single stages I have are the LNL and Co-Ax. Think the LNL is beefy enough? Won't work on the Co-Ax.


Link Posted: 11/25/2015 1:55:44 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 11/25/2015 10:08:41 AM EDT
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Anything more than a few thousandths I would recommend doing in two passes; ie two separate sizing dies to do it in stages.
Link Posted: 11/25/2015 10:16:35 AM EDT
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Anything more than a few thousandths I would recommend doing in two passes; ie two separate sizing dies to do it in stages.
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I would agree if you were taking it down from 323 to 311 or 459 to 452.. but you think it necessary for .429 to .427?
Link Posted: 11/25/2015 1:21:16 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 11/25/2015 6:43:46 PM EDT
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OK.. sold, I will try the $20 Lee press through...

Thanks!
Link Posted: 11/26/2015 2:29:55 AM EDT
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  If you mean that C press, get something better with an O frame.
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OK.. sold, I will try the $20 Lee press through...

Thanks!

  If you mean that C press, get something better with an O frame.



Oops.. meant "push through" not "press". Will try it on Hornady.
Link Posted: 11/27/2015 1:28:24 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 12/1/2015 11:35:56 PM EDT
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Brownells box arrived today... .427 sized Lee lube and size kit.

I resized about 50 test bullets for this weekend. I can honestly say it was so much easier than the RCBS lube a matic for sizing Jacketed bullets. Very pleased with $20 purchase.

I loaded up a handful in 44-40 with unique. Should be a neat round on Saturday.

Thanks for help and tip!

(Although I am not giving up my cast bullets in 44-40, i will like both).
Link Posted: 12/2/2015 12:51:59 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 12/2/2015 1:12:32 AM EDT
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Don't use the Alox with jacketed bullets as your lube.  It will make a mess, and just cause smoking when you shoot the bullets and don't get all the alox wax off before they are loaded

Instead, just use standard case lube to lube the jacket bullets to put them through the sizer.

Diy case lube,
http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_6_42/330292_Homemade_case_lube.html
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Brownells box arrived today... .427 sized Lee lube and size kit.

I resized about 50 test bullets for this weekend. I can honestly say it was so much easier than the RCBS lube a matic for sizing Jacketed bullets. Very pleased with $20 purchase.

I loaded up a handful in 44-40 with unique. Should be a neat round on Saturday.

Thanks for help and tip!

(Although I am not giving up my cast bullets in 44-40, i will like both).



Don't use the Alox with jacketed bullets as your lube.  It will make a mess, and just cause smoking when you shoot the bullets and don't get all the alox wax off before they are loaded

Instead, just use standard case lube to lube the jacket bullets to put them through the sizer.

Diy case lube,
http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_6_42/330292_Homemade_case_lube.html


Yup. That's what I did... I just washed it off with Dawn. Towel and air compressed dry the ones I wanted to test load. Rest are sitting in front of fan to air dry. Better option for cleaning?
Link Posted: 12/2/2015 11:03:48 AM EDT
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Be sure to check the diameter of your sized bullets.

I had to open a few of my Lee sizers up as they sized bullet smaller than what they were marked.


BTW, told you .
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Yup done. .427 nearly on dot. pre measured good at .429

Thanks!
Link Posted: 12/2/2015 3:56:04 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 12/6/2015 9:56:47 PM EDT
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Ran some formerly .429 200gr Nosler JHP through my 44-40 SA Uberti today over a proper dose of Unique. Ran fantastic. I will run some next week in my Rossi lever. I only wish I could get the LNL powder drop to do a little better with the Unique. Finally getting stick powders to drop a little better but Unique is rather... unique.

Link Posted: 12/6/2015 10:39:33 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 12/9/2015 12:05:32 AM EDT
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Would you recommend a pistol or rifle powder drum for Unique at 8-9gr? I had run the rifle thinking bigger is better since there is a much bigger area for the powder to drop into. Perhaps this was a wrong assumption. I will try the pistol one this weekend.



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With good technique, the Hornady PM will throw Unique + or - .1 gr.


Settle the powder in hopper, same stroke/speed/force on press handle every time.
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Ran some formerly .429 200gr Nosler JHP through my 44-40 SA Uberti today over a proper dose of Unique. Ran fantastic. I will run some next week in my Rossi lever. I only wish I could get the LNL powder drop to do a little better with the Unique. Finally getting stick powders to drop a little better but Unique is rather... unique.


  <a href="http://s250.photobucket.com/user/dryflash3/media/Powder%20Measure/P9270287-1.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg272/dryflash3/Powder%20Measure/P9270287-1.jpg</a>


With good technique, the Hornady PM will throw Unique + or - .1 gr.


Settle the powder in hopper, same stroke/speed/force on press handle every time.

Link Posted: 12/9/2015 12:06:45 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 12/9/2015 3:32:32 PM EDT
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Be sure to check the diameter of your sized bullets.

I had to open a few of my Lee sizers up as they sized bullet smaller than what they were marked.


BTW, told you .
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I was just reminded about this - my experience with sizing .311" FMJ bullets to .308" was the other way around.  The bullets were a little over .308" when I sized them.  I ran 'em through again and they were a lot closer to .3080" the second time.  It's probably the type of jacket that causes this.
Link Posted: 12/9/2015 11:50:31 PM EDT
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I was just reminded about this - my experience with sizing .311" FMJ bullets to .308" was the other way around.  The bullets were a little over .308" when I sized them.  I ran 'em through again and they were a lot closer to .3080" the second time.  It's probably the type of jacket that causes this.
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Be sure to check the diameter of your sized bullets.

I had to open a few of my Lee sizers up as they sized bullet smaller than what they were marked.


BTW, told you .

I was just reminded about this - my experience with sizing .311" FMJ bullets to .308" was the other way around.  The bullets were a little over .308" when I sized them.  I ran 'em through again and they were a lot closer to .3080" the second time.  It's probably the type of jacket that causes this.



I am a bit confused about the sizing 311 to 308 everyone keeps talking about... why bother? 308 are super cheap in comparison unless you have a cheap stash of 311. If so, seems I would save them for the mosin?
Link Posted: 12/10/2015 12:50:37 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 12/10/2015 10:05:30 PM EDT
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I am a bit confused about the sizing 311 to 308 everyone keeps talking about... why bother? 308 are super cheap in comparison unless you have a cheap stash of 311. If so, seems I would save them for the mosin?
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I wanted 123 grain bullets to run in my 300 Blackout, and I had a buttload of .311s in that weight.  Besides, I expect to need to size lead bullets for the Blackout at some point, so I got the die for that too.
Link Posted: 12/10/2015 10:29:29 PM EDT
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