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Posted: 8/27/2015 8:00:03 PM EDT
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HAP is for Hornady Action Pistol. They are intended for range/competition not for self defense. If you are looking for relatively inexpensive defensive bullets Remington Golden Sabers used to be priced reasonable as components. Haven't priced them in a while though.
Of course in a pinch any bullet can be used defensively. Even if they aren't designed with terminal performance in mind. |
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Posted: 8/27/2015 8:29:22 PM EDT
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They're supposed to be accurate bullets for target shooting - and that they are. It's hard to find good bullets for defensive ammo, but XTPs would be my choice. I keep a stash of them on hand just because.
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Posted: 8/27/2015 8:55:57 PM EDT
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Supposed to be essentially the same as an XTP only without the cuts for expansion and maybe some other production steps. They probably will expand, but not as reliably or uniform.
They are intended as a match bullet like Nosler CCs, jacketed HPs tend to be the most accurate designs. |
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Posted: 8/29/2015 12:53:05 PM EDT
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A few years ago I found a box of 500 of 125 gr. HAP .356 dia. for the 38 super at a small Ace hardware. Loaded up only 20 and they worked well at paper. I need to finish up loading the rest.
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Posted: 8/30/2015 10:45:21 PM EDT
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They *HAP" bullets lack the jacket skives to allow for reliable expansion. You should consider that using the right bullet for the intended purpose, but it is up to you. Gold Dots, Golden Sabers, XTP;s, or Nosler.
Nosler only makes Custom Competition bullets in 45 cal 185gr. Their other bullet should be suitable for expansion. |
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Posted: 9/7/2015 1:26:16 PM EDT
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Well I bought 500 and loaded them this weekend. Use will be practice/targets. I only asked about defensive use from curiosity. They look good and loaded well. I'll report on them after I get a chance to go shooting. Thanks for the replies.
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Posted: 9/7/2015 1:53:06 PM EDT
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Self-defense "in a pinch" I would say yes. They are no worse than full metal jackets which have been used for self-defense countless times.
There are much better choices, but getting shot by any bullet will likely lead to death. People under estimate stopping power. Over 50% of all firearm deaths in the USA are caused by .22 LR rimfire ammo and this statistic has been steady for decades now. |
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Posted: 9/7/2015 10:45:49 PM EDT
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They're awesome for Bullseye.
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Posted: 9/7/2015 11:01:19 PM EDT
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Like others have said, I wouldn't count on them for expansion. But one side benefit is they almost exactly an XTP. If your gun feeds these without issue it should have zero issues with XTPs.
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