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I didnt want to spend too much of this thread listing complaints about RCBS powder measure. But since you asked:
1. Tolerances dont seem as tight. Installing both drum and plunger fit very poorly and "rough" into their respective homes. 2. that spring is way overly strong... difficult to remove/install. Dont see why you need that strong. 3. Baffle costs extra.. are you kidding?? 4. Cheap plastic green??? clear hopper that shredded apart when I installed it into metal... 5. baffle costs extra.. deserves a repeat 6. no pistol expander capability? i was going to see if that hornady piece might fit 7. materials cheaper?? 8. the screw piece in side of drun that holds plunger in. Hornady has a button that is way smoother Just my opinion. Originally Posted By Dano523:
Find this funny as hell, since RCBS leased the design from Hornady and they are pretty much the same (short of the taller bottle on the 7, than the shorter bottle on the 5). http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/81tKM4IkmjS._SL1500_.jpg http://www.stillyvision.com/files/cg/lrp2.jpg http://ultimatereloader.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/Pro-Chucker-5-Loading-45-ACP-600-393x600.jpg If anything, RCBS has not come out with a powder stop yet to use on their dispensers with a RCBS Case Activated Linkage Kit Pistol Powder Expander in play so the adjustment handle is not making hard contact to the top of the slot on the up stroke to dance the power in the hopper (Hornady powder stop to the rescue here) http://ultimatereloader.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/PTX-Bracket-Tall.jpg If it's just the adjustment screw that you don't like, then change it out to a micro meter instead, http://www.rcbs.com/getattachment/Products/Powder-Measures-and-Scales/Powder-Measures/Accessories/Micrometer-Adjustment-Screw/rc_98901_micrometeradjustmentscrew.jpg.aspx?maxsidesize=700 View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Dano523:
Originally Posted By djryan13:
Not overly impressed with the RCBS powder measure. Much happier with the Hornady. Find this funny as hell, since RCBS leased the design from Hornady and they are pretty much the same (short of the taller bottle on the 7, than the shorter bottle on the 5). http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/81tKM4IkmjS._SL1500_.jpg http://www.stillyvision.com/files/cg/lrp2.jpg http://ultimatereloader.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/Pro-Chucker-5-Loading-45-ACP-600-393x600.jpg If anything, RCBS has not come out with a powder stop yet to use on their dispensers with a RCBS Case Activated Linkage Kit Pistol Powder Expander in play so the adjustment handle is not making hard contact to the top of the slot on the up stroke to dance the power in the hopper (Hornady powder stop to the rescue here) http://ultimatereloader.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/PTX-Bracket-Tall.jpg If it's just the adjustment screw that you don't like, then change it out to a micro meter instead, http://www.rcbs.com/getattachment/Products/Powder-Measures-and-Scales/Powder-Measures/Accessories/Micrometer-Adjustment-Screw/rc_98901_micrometeradjustmentscrew.jpg.aspx?maxsidesize=700 |
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no pistol expander capability? i was going to see if that hornady piece might fit. View Quote RCBS has them for pistol now, just no powder measure stop yet, So yes on the RCBS pistol expanders for the RCBS bullet feeder, if you don't want to use the Hornday PTX expanders isntead if you are using a Hornady bullet feeder. http://www.midwayusa.com/product/152982/rcbs-case-activated-linkage-kit-pistol-powder-expander-45-acp But no on the powder measure stop, and you need to use the hornday unit until RCBS decides to offer them a well (too busy trying to resolve other problems on the machine like the primer slider, and will take them a while to figure out that a powder messure stop is needed to get uniform powder throws with the pistol expanders in play). Hence the stop is set up so adjustment dial housing, stops just a hair shrot of the top of the slot it rides in, instead of crashing into the top of the slot when expands the case mouth instead. Skip to :40 if anyone don't know how to set up the powder measure stop correctly, https://youtu.be/A-t-pgeZYWY |
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'Twas not the <cough> sweet and innocent <cough> PlaymoreMinds... <---skips away in frilly skirts to Candyland, leaving gutters and snorkels FAR behind. |
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A few years ago, I bought a couple of the Hornady powder measure stops and converted them quite easily to work with RCBS linkage on the Uniflow. I posted the How-to thread in the tacked threads.
If you're interested: http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_6_42/402337_.html&page=1 |
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Posted By PlaymoreMinds:
'Twas not the <cough> sweet and innocent <cough> PlaymoreMinds... <---skips away in frilly skirts to Candyland, leaving gutters and snorkels FAR behind. |
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Posted By PlaymoreMinds:
'Twas not the <cough> sweet and innocent <cough> PlaymoreMinds... <---skips away in frilly skirts to Candyland, leaving gutters and snorkels FAR behind. |
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Post removed, it's now in the Pro Chucker 7 thread.
http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_6_42/455537_Pro_Chucker_7.html dryflash3 |
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Post removed, it's now in the Pro Chucker 7 thread. View Quote http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_6_42/455537_Pro_Chucker_7.html dryflash3 |
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Global Warming Hoax Skeptic before it was cool
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edit, new thread started, please continue with this thread. View Quote |
Selling agent for Algores carbon credit scam.
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Post removed, it's now in the Pro Chucker 7 thread.
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dryflash3,
I had started a new topic titled Pro Chucker 7. http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_6_42/455537_Pro_Chucker_7.html It was recommended that I move that thread back to the PC 5 review since they are so similar. They only difference being the index head and the shell plate. I will move it to PC 7 if you wish. |
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Thanks for starting the new thread.
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Selling agent for Algores carbon credit scam.
Shooting and Reloading, one hobby feeds the other. |
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PC7 Primer Slide issue resolved and may help with a PC5..
So my 1 remaining issue was the primer slide catching. RCBS told me to bevel the drop tube mount and use the softer spring they sent me. Well this worked a little better. Then I switched from CCI primers to Winchester and the problem was worse. Thinking about it I decided to measure the height of each of the primers. Winchester Primers are 2-3 thousandths shorter than CCI. This had me thinking. I promptly took the slide assembly apart and measured the depth of the primer pocket in the slide. It was 2 hundredths taller than the CCI primers. Solution: Using 2000 grit sandpaper I thinned the primer slide until it was close to 3 thousandths taller than the primers. End result 400 rounds loaded without a single hangup. |
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Just a little update.
My pro chucker is still rolling strong , I haven't broke a transfer bar in months. I've put another 5k of loaded ammo through it. I love this press. |
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It's beginning to appear that the new presses are actually getting close to where they shoulda been last January. Now if they had sent the press out free to a dozen RCBS Pro 2000 owners like me for free (yeah right), to test for a few months, say last August, they could have skipped all the bad press and introduced it with the bugs wrung out. Then of course we'd all be singing the praises like bm3 just did. (wish I WAS that important....not by a long shot)
Maybe I'll buy a Pro Chucker yet.....maybe next year....the 7....of course since I already have a wonderful 5 station press. One can't have too many presses. I'm of the opinion they still need a case collator, of course, since they have a feeder "coming any day now"......but of course its not like we can't buy one already out. Dillon expects their customers who want bullet feeders to branch out with other "colors," since they won't make one of those, so RCBS has that precedent. The other issue with the 7 I'm waiting on, is being able to buy a tool head without another Uniflow......come on, after buying a 7, I would already have FOUR. That's a deal breaker for me until they offer separate products. I have two cast iron Rockchuckers still in service, and a cast iron Pro 2000 that should last another 40 years. I'm resigned to the fact that they last TOO long in RCBS's view, so though I'm not all fuzzy about the new presses being aluminum, and we will see in a relatively short time, broken progressive press castings in a new color (green), I'm also resigned to owning one as long at least as long as RCBS wants to replace them for free, like Dillon does. |
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They do seem a bit stronger. I haven't broke one in a while either though. I am keeping my original ones for emergencies and using the new ones.
One thing I am not sure was mentioned is that the RCBS has one major flaw that Hornady has a prevention for... My biggest issue was the small plunger was not retracting after priming and thus locking the slide. I realized I had to clean up the primer plunger a bit so it slid up/down easier. In the beginning the plunger would lock onto the primer slide preventing it from sliding back. The slide pin would then quickly break off. Hornady has the metal rod that the pin slides on. If there is too much force on the primer slide pin, the rod will fall out of a little spring released hole (without breaking). If somehow we could redesign that rail on the side of the RCBS press to pop off with just enough force, we would be better off. I just don't have any great ideas on how to do that. Replacing the screws with something? |
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I know this thread has been dormant for quite awhile now but it was so active it seems a good place to now ask about an update. I am currently looking at a 650 but the PC5 just keeps drawing my eye. I know they fixed the primer issue but what about a case collator? I don't see one listed on their web site yet, been 3+ yrs. Can you use a case collator from blue or red? Any other thoughts now that this press has been around for a bit?
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Mine now sits in a box on the shelf as a reminder that I should’ve got the 1050 to begin with.
In this case No means No. |
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That's a pretty big change from your last post. Any updates?
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Originally Posted By jb1023:
I know this thread has been dormant for quite awhile now but it was so active it seems a good place to now ask about an update. I am currently looking at a 650 but the PC5 just keeps drawing my eye. I know they fixed the primer issue but what about a case collator? I don't see one listed on their web site yet, been 3+ yrs. Can you use a case collator from blue or red? Any other thoughts now that this press has been around for a bit? View Quote Your question deserves to be answered. RCBS has not seen a reason to create a case collator, especially since Dillon has one which works perfectly with the Pro Chuckers......I don't blame them. The sales would have to reach Dillon 650 like numbers before it would be reasonable to risk the R&D and production of their own. I don't use one since I find it is not only cheaper, but simpler to use a both a pistol & rifle version of a Lee style shaker I made. Caliber change is instantaneous. https://www.thehighroad.org/index.php?threads/rifle-case-collating-improves-on-lees-shaker-how-to-build-included.679005/#post-10639031 Bullet feeders are available just like they are on Dillons.....or if you prefer RCBS's new Tube Rifle bullet feeder is a great feeder......again, collators are available. |
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Originally Posted By bm3:
Just a little update. My pro chucker is still rolling strong , I haven't broke a transfer bar in months. I've put another 5k of loaded ammo through it. I love this press. View Quote I'm sorry you had such a bad experience....and that made me wait a year longer.....but others had better experiences and the curiosity finally reached a head last May. Especially since RCBS finally started selling die plates for the PC7 without the stupid powder measure.....and at the same time they started selling powder dies by themselves.....couldn't resist....they had finally met the requirements I told them had to be met before I'd try it out. (I have 4 powder measures already...sure don't need a new one every stinking time another caliber is bought.) With the initial storm about this press, I was carefuller to be sure, starting out....and analyzing the motions, I could see where things could go wrong, but it was no different by that point than the 650 I tried out or the Pro 2000......there is a learning curve to each of them. Easiest one for me was the Pro 2000. I'm not going to claim nothing can or did go wrong, but I think I caught most of it before I broke anything.....of course I never had to deal with the early primer slides. Two things I changed up front and soon, and they both had to do with the case feeder: 1. I didn't care for the "V" shaped case pusher on the case feeder......so I ground a half moon shape into mine....and it worked like a charm. 2. The case feeder case size adjustment would not hold a setting.....slipping, cases could drop in unison (that feature almost caused me to throw something) The fix there was to drill through and tap inside the channel at each case adjustment, and use longer bolts....no big deal for me....could be a head wringer for some........and I told an engineer that that feature stunk......he said he'd look into it....don't know if they fixed that....but I did. I got the thumb screws from Ace Hardware in their hardware aisle, called a battery terminal. Notice the Hex head bolt in the press? RCBS put set screws there (as well as where I put the brass thumb screws in the case feeder) Well those same brass screws work better in the press as well......why do that? Because it reminds you that those screws holding the die plate down is meant to be just snugged...only. Tightening those can bring another disaster. After all they copied Dillon and made the casting out of aluminum. Threads are not steel strong...don't tighten with the Allen wrench! Works pretty good for .223 https://vimeo.com/265457004 Works pretty good for .308 https://vimeo.com/265311844 What about pistol? I load .357, .40, and .45. and I set it up for 9mm too since I have some.....rifle was the feed test....the rest was smooth easy...no flying powder either. |
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Now you've posted about plastic parts and rust?.....rust on an aluminum press? Now I'm really curious. Well, wait, RCBS does have some cast iron...the ram and the high stress ram linkage parts...but that's a plus in my book...and they include grease fittings.
The only plastic parts I've found so far is the primer slides, which they improved and the plastic case feeder drop tubes that every company uses.....am I missing something? Heck, I was disappointed that RCBS chose to go to an aluminum frame like Hornady and Dillon, except for their limited warranty commercial 1050....which most of us can't afford. I've never heard a rust complaint before. |
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