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Posted: 5/26/2015 11:14:38 PM EDT
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Yuup, forgot to mention bullet weight. Loading 123 124 and 125 grain bullets all jacketed. As far as I can tell there is little difference in WC680 (also marketed by Winchester some years back as 680) and A1680. Chrony reading are almost identical over 10 shot strings. I thought I'd be ok with the Remington primers, but a second opinion is always nice to have. Thanks for the info.
I see A1680 is becoming available again in some areas. Mine will be nearly gone after this session, so it was nice to see this, though I was not "fast" enough to take advantage. |
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Posted: 5/26/2015 11:22:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yuup, forgot to mention bullet weight. Loading 123 124 and 125 grain bullets all jacketed. As far as I can tell there is little difference in WC680 (also marketed by Winchester some years back as 680) and A1680. Chrony reading are almost identical over 10 shot strings. I thought I'd be ok with the Remington primers, but a second opinion is always nice to have. Thanks for the info. I see A1680 is becoming available again in some areas. Mine will be nearly gone after this session, so it was nice to see this, though I was not "fast" enough to take advantage. Can't temp you with a trip to the dark side?  |
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Posted: 5/26/2015 11:35:30 PM EDT
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I've loaded 7.62x39 with T680 with good results. I never used the FCD on them though. It was before that die was available.
I used T680 for a Mini30 some 25+ yrs ago and was loading 168gr SMK. I reduced the charge of course. I used Winchester primers I believe. Doubt you'll notice any difference with Remington. Thunderbird had powder earlier this year at a good price, but now out. |
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Posted: 5/27/2015 12:56:34 PM EDT
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Other powders that work well with 123 grain bullets is 24.5 grains of H-4198 or 28.0 grains of H-322.
I purchased a pound of WW-680 decades ago and stored it properly sealed in a cool dry place. It went bad on me in under ten years, forming into large clumps and hard to break up. I don't know if anyone else had problems with the WW version of this powder, but they discontinued it's production years ago. |
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Posted: 5/27/2015 8:55:35 PM EDT
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Reloading Berdan primed steel cases with cast lead bullets?
That's a job for one hard core reloader. 
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Posted: 5/27/2015 9:41:19 PM EDT
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Holy crap! That's AWESOME!
John |
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Posted: 5/27/2015 10:15:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Reloading Berdan primed steel cases with cast lead bullets? That's a job for one hard core reloader. What we do on the dark side. I'm always trying something new to me. |
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Posted: 5/27/2015 10:23:23 PM EDT
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Very resourceful. Knowledge like this is good to have.
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Posted: 5/30/2015 7:09:37 PM EDT
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But how are you getting boxer primers to fit?
John Ah, never mind. I looked at the picture again. Make that where are you finding Beerdan primers? |
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Posted: 5/30/2015 10:08:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: But how are you getting boxer primers to fit? John Ah, never mind. I looked at the picture again. Make that where are you finding Beerdan primers? You are correct, Boxer primers are smaller in diameter than the Berdan primer pocket. A various times, Graf's and Powder Valley stock them. In stock here http://www.dagammo.com/shop/non-corrosive-berdan-primer-c-7/kv24n-large-rifle-berdan-primers-5000-primers-p-46.html |
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Posted: 5/30/2015 10:32:37 PM EDT
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dryflash, are you wet tumbling your steel? Those cases look really shiny...
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Posted: 5/30/2015 10:38:29 PM EDT
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I normally just dry tumble in walnut. Like in that pic.
I did wet tumble a batch of really rusted cases once. They came out as bare steel, but the rust was gone. I loaded them and put some desiccant in the ammo box and they didn't rust before I shot them. But not worth the trouble I decided. |
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Posted: 5/31/2015 4:14:35 AM EDT
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What velocity do you push your cast loads at? Are they 150 gr.? I would like to start reloading 7.62x39 but can't justify it when imported ammo is cheaper than reloads. I want to run full power loads so that pretty much takes cast and plated bullets out of the equation. Short of Hornady which are too expensive, I'm not aware of any decent quality bulk jacketed .310-.312 bullets at a decent price point.
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Posted: 5/31/2015 8:14:11 AM EDT
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I have some steel cases that I'm going to wet tumble because I'm getting tired of brushing and scraping them. I've been looking at lacquer to spray them to prevent rust, but if you've done fine with just desiccant, I may just skip that too...
To tag along with a previous question, I have some plated .311 bullets for 7.62x39, and I was wondering how fast I should plan to push them. Has anyone run plated bullets in AKs? How fast did you load them? |
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Posted: 5/31/2015 10:26:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What velocity do you push your cast loads at? Are they 150 gr.? I would like to start reloading 7.62x39 but can't justify it when imported ammo is cheaper than reloads. I want to run full power loads so that pretty much takes cast and plated bullets out of the equation. Short of Hornady which are too expensive, I'm not aware of any decent quality bulk jacketed .310-.312 bullets at a decent price point. I use the Lee 2R 155 gr mold. http://www.midwayusa.com/product/752956/lee-2-cavity-bullet-mold-c312-155-2r-762x39mm-312-diameter-155-grain-2-ogive-radius-gas-check I load these to about 1800 fps and they function both of my AK's. Not full power, but not powder puff either. Plated bullet are the next cheapest http://www.xtremebullets.com/7-62-s/48049.htm  When I first found these a couple of years ago, they were HP, not solid. I flare the cases with a Lee neck expander die http://www.midwayusa.com/product/140461/lee-universal-neck-expanding-die?cm_vc=ProductFinding |
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Posted: 6/1/2015 8:11:33 PM EDT
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What is the heaviest bullet you've loaded for 7.62x39? Anything available that is heavy enough to run subsonic?
Thanks, John |
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Posted: 6/1/2015 10:23:36 PM EDT
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 I really like the pulled 147 gr (label is incorrect in the pic, but the price was right) light steel ball. These are from pulled 7.62x54R light steel ball loads. That's what the silver tip means. I worked up to 22.0 grs of A-1680 for use in my AK's. This is full power and not subsonic. I would probably try the Sierra 180 gr, good luck finding loading data.
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Posted: 6/2/2015 6:09:49 AM EDT
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Dryflash
What velocities are you running the X-treme 123gr plated bullets at? Just got a gift certificate to their website and was thinking about picking some up as I'll be stepping into x39 reloading later this year. Thanks Eric |
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Posted: 6/2/2015 2:18:41 PM EDT
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So far about 2 grains down from my max load for jacketed.
Still working up to my max load with them. I seldom crono any loads. |
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Posted: 6/2/2015 4:45:12 PM EDT
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Thanks. Might pick up a box to see how they do.
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