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Posted: 2/1/2013 3:44:46 PM
With the craziness going on now, I like to try to pick up what I can whenever there's something around. Cablelas has random stuff on a daily basis come in but a lot of it is stuff I've not used for .223 before.

I know lots of things can be made to work with .223, like Varget, but it meters horrible. So what powders do you guys like that is easy to work with, and works well in .223 for you?

I use H335 usually and have a few pounds of it, and I've also picked up some BLC2 and some CFE223 so far.
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Posted: 2/1/2013 3:52:41 PM
CFE223
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Posted: 2/1/2013 4:02:48 PM
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CFE223


^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ This.
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Posted: 2/1/2013 4:14:37 PM
TAC. I haven't tried CFE223 yet, but TAC works well, meters terrifically, and has good load data available.
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Posted: 2/1/2013 4:18:46 PM
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Originally Posted By Ogive:
CFE223


^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ This.


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Posted: 2/1/2013 4:34:05 PM
Never used TAC yet, I'll add that to my list
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Posted: 2/1/2013 7:36:08 PM
I like Win 748.
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Posted: 2/1/2013 7:49:52 PM
At this point i'm starting to like anything I can buy 8lbs of that's in stock...
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Posted: 2/1/2013 8:06:05 PM
I use several too. I use Reloder-15 for 65's and 69's and have shot some nice groups with Reloder-7 using 55gr bullets. I can't remember right off hand how they meter though. I use surplus ball powder for my volume shooting. It don't bother me to use the CM 1500 for my hunting and target loads.
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Posted: 2/1/2013 9:57:27 PM
What aspect of efficiency? fps per gr of powder? This will change with projectile weight, TAC is efficient with heavier weights and much less with 55gr compared to other powders.
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Posted: 2/1/2013 10:10:28 PM
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Originally Posted By Smallmouth:
I like Win 748.

I agree. I shot my best 223 groups using this powder and Nosler Balistic Tip 55 grain bullets loaded with 26 grains of 748. It meters like butter and can be used with every weight bullet.


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Posted: 2/1/2013 10:32:29 PM

Originally Posted By aviserated1:

Originally Posted By Smallmouth:
I like Win 748.

I agree. I shot my best 223 groups using this powder and Nosler Balistic Tip 55 grain bullets loaded with 29 grains of 748. It meters like butter and can be used with every weight bullet.

748 is spooky stuff for me. Several years ago I loaded up a bunch of 69's with it to about 2650 fps, not hot really. This was in the winter time. Took a box of them to a match and was blowing primers on the 200 yd line, and didn't finish the match. it appears very temp sensitive to me, and therefore not on my list anymore.

For the OP, I've used Varget, IMR4895, H4895, RE15, and H335 with good success.
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Posted: 2/1/2013 10:35:42 PM
Another W-748 fan here. 26.2 grains behind a Hornady 55 grain FMJBT. Works for me in my 1 in 12 barrel.
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Posted: 2/1/2013 10:45:01 PM
Originally Posted By Smallmouth:
I like Win 748.


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Posted: 2/1/2013 11:04:16 PM

Originally Posted By GlutealCleft:
TAC. I haven't tried CFE223 yet, but TAC works well, meters terrifically, and has good load data available.

That. very versatile powder and it uses slightly less than most other powders for the same velocity.
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Posted: 2/1/2013 11:12:19 PM

Originally Posted By webfarmer:
Another W-748 fan here. 26.2 grains behind a Hornady 55 grain FMJBT. Works for me in my 1 in 12 barrel.

I edited my post. Insted of 29 grains (TOO HOT) it was 26 grains exactly of 748 (29 is setting on my redding powder thrower).

This is another example why some people do not post there load data...mistakes like this can cause high pressure damage.


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Posted: 2/1/2013 11:12:41 PM
there isn't a whole lot available around here. I found a couple pounds of Ramshot's X-Term tonight and loaded up 200 rounds of 55g SPs at 23.4gr. We'll see how that shoots this weekend. I was using Lyman's 49th formula.

Anybody else use this powder before?
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Posted: 2/1/2013 11:53:58 PM
I just put up with the metering with Varget. Using Sierra 65 gr. Game Kings, I maintain 1 MOA out to 300 yards, so metering doesn't seem to be a performance problem.
As for efficiency, I refuse to consider a temp sensitive powder, so 748 and BLC-2 are out of the question.
I might consider TAC, but I still have more Varget than I need. My entire stock is loaded with Varget, so in the interests of uniformity, I'll stay right there.
There's really so little difference between charge weights in the best performing powders. I very much intend to stay with powder that I can visually check with every single throw of the measure. I like knowing that the case simply can't hold enough powder to get me in trouble with the 65 gr. bullet. This would not be true for H-322, and a list of others.
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Posted: 2/2/2013 7:47:28 AM
AA2230 shoots awesome @ 24.0gr with a 55gr bullet and Benchmark is great at 25.0gr. Both meter very smooth.
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Posted: 2/2/2013 7:51:10 AM
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Only powder is use is Winchester 748 for rifle and 231 for pistol. It's economical, and availability is high.

Not to mention W748 feeds extremely well for consistent powder charges
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Posted: 2/2/2013 8:34:56 AM
If you like H335 then when you can find WC844 jump on it. Half the price and nearly same powder.
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Posted: 2/2/2013 8:40:23 AM
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Posted: 2/2/2013 10:44:18 AM
Originally Posted By Deputyjason:
AA2230 shoots awesome @ 24.0gr with a 55gr bullet and Benchmark is great at 25.0gr. Both meter very smooth.


This...but I load 24.3. Love my AA

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Posted: 2/2/2013 10:48:56 AM
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Viht N133


Sir, while I liked N133 in this cartridge with the heavier bullets, I tried N140, liked it better but found that N540 is even better! I don't know what aspect of efficiency has to do with choice of powder but if cost is part of the equation here in the USA VV powders are not only expensive but not carried by a lot of dealers necessitating buying on the internet and paying Hazmat fees. JMHO, 7zero1.

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Posted: 2/2/2013 11:21:40 AM
I use H335, WC844, and W748 for 55 and 62grn bullets in my 16" middy AR with 1:9 barrel and TAC for high precision, long range 68grn Hornady HPBT for precision in my 20" AR and Savage bolt, both with 1:9 barrels.
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Posted: 2/2/2013 11:31:52 AM
Originally Posted By TxSoldier:
With the craziness going on now, I like to try to pick up what I can whenever there's something around. Cablelas has random stuff on a daily basis come in but a lot of it is stuff I've not used for .223 before.

I know lots of things can be made to work with .223, like Varget, but it meters horrible. So what powders do you guys like that is easy to work with, and works well in .223 for you?

I use H335 usually and have a few pounds of it, and I've also picked up some BLC2 and some CFE223 so far.


Your thread title is a little misleading.

If you're looking for efficient, then CFE223 would be the least efficient, according to my Hornady Reloading manual. It appears that it necessitates the most grains of powder for the listed velocities. I'm sure it's because it has additives that keep the bore/action clean, hence it's purpose. It seems to be a little cheaper than H335 and Varget, comparatively.
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