Originally Posted By bigedp51:
I have the crystals also and its the citric acid in Lemi Shine that cleans the brass and makes it shine, the pins remove the surface contaminates, carbon, etc.
I have never seen Lemi Shine in a liquid form, but the contents should be the same.
I have tried three other dish washer type liquids and none of them worked because they did not contain citric acid or any other type acid.
All forms of liquid cartridge case cleaners contain some form of acid, and vinegar (acedic acid) is used in home made brass cleaners.
Bottom line, don't use anything but Lemi Shine if you want shiny brass.
they are not the same the liquid is a rinse agent and does not work. i have some i used once with no effect. get the crystals