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Posted: 8/9/2012 8:47:26 PM
[Last Edit: 8/9/2012 8:50:05 PM by gee223]
THE IMAGE ABOVE IS A PAID ADVERTISEMENT What do you expect of your pistol ammo? ETA- I guess part of it is that I'm just not liking the Barry's 124gr 9mm HPs, or the 200gr 45 HPs. That's just what was in stock at the time locally. |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 9:16:48 PM
My pistol loads are all for plinking so I pretty much make a start load, mid load and higher load (generally not max) and run them to see how they shoot and function. If accuracy is acceptable and the gun cycles I go with the lowest charge that works or somewhere between two good loads. I've found some pretty light 9mm loads that actually shoot pretty good and the brass barely goes anywhere but will all land in a small area at 4 o'clock.
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Posted: 8/9/2012 10:43:08 PM
I usually load 2 versions... "plinkin" load (cheap) and "power" load (expensive) to run through my 44Mag ... I confess I am not very profecient with either... ( maybe its my gun?
Now hand me a long gun and I will sing a different tune Are you using the plated Berry's? |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 11:04:58 PM
not as much powder range for a pistol like a .5 grain load work up on titegroup not much to do besides try different powder and bullet combos.
I kinda suck with my pistol still, my reloads shoot better than the cheap factory stuff so I'm going with cheap to get some practice in. bless the dessert sun I'm not too inclined to practice when it's over 100 |
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Posted: 8/10/2012 12:38:21 AM
Now that I think about it, only for my revolvers. My 9mm and 45 loads are WWBish as well.
![]() Great. This is gonna bug me now.
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Posted: 8/10/2012 6:25:09 AM
Originally Posted By Bubbatheredneck:
Now that I think about it, only for my revolvers. My 9mm and 45 loads are WWBish as well.
Great. This is gonna bug me now. Sorry.
They are still good for double/triple tap and mag dump practice, which is very important. |
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Posted: 8/10/2012 6:44:48 AM
I guess I am a bit of an oddball here. I work up all of my pistol loads. I work up in .2gr increments, and usually do 20 rounds per increment. I then chron them all, see which function best, and which are most accurate across several different guns. Once I find the load that gives me best overall accuracy and function in a multitude of guns I then move to a different powder and see if I can do better. Currently I have about 500-600 rounds, ladder loaded, and ready to test.
I guess that is just me. |
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Posted: 8/10/2012 7:37:27 AM
[Last Edit: 8/10/2012 7:37:45 AM by gee223]
Nobody will tell you that's a bad thing! In fact since you posted that, I bet more of us will be watching for your posts in load recipe threads.
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Posted: 8/10/2012 9:37:33 AM
I work mine up for accuracy and reliability (and min power factor) in 9 and 45. For 44 mag, 38, and 357 I go for accuracy alone. I have always done this. This is why I consider reloading another hobby not just a way to save money.
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Posted: 8/10/2012 9:49:22 AM
I put just as much time and effort into them both.
Reloading for me serves 2 purposes: To make shooting cheaper and to get the most accurate ammo I can. Who doesn't like cheaper ammo ? Who doesn't want to hit every target he aims at ? I want to be able to shoot more and to hit what I aim at. For me a ''good enuff'' load ain't good enuff. |
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Posted: 8/10/2012 10:06:25 AM
[Last Edit: 8/10/2012 10:11:16 AM by 1911smith]
All of my load work up is done 2 to 3/10ths a grain at a time. Pistol work up is ALL done at range, velocity verified with chronograph.
An hours time will have a load dialed in. My .45acp load will hold 2" at 25 yards from a Perkins Custom, Custom Classic Commander model 1911. My .38 Super Comp load will hold 3" from Perkins Custom NRA Action 1911 with Aimpoint Comp C3, 2moa red dot. Rifle is a lot more detailed. There's a lot of brass and concentricity work. Charges finger trickled to within .05. Groups fired at 100, 300 & 600. There's chronograph work, ballistic calculator work and do'in your part working the wind. Rifle load work-up is a lot harder. Precision ammunition requires a lot of work on your part. Yes, even pistol. Handle pullers work their pistol targets at 10 to 15 yards. Hand loaders run their pistol targets down to the 25 or 50 yard line and leave'em there. |
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Posted: 8/10/2012 2:30:44 PM
The question to ask oneself is, do I shoot a pistol well enough to devote the time to development? Me? offhand? Nope. If the load goes around 3" at 25yds its good enough for my uses. Do I buy cheap bullets, for range work? yep, I like cast semi wadcutters. Conveniently both my 45acps shoot very good with the loads randomly chosen for them, a certain family member of mine can make me feel like I can't hit a barn door by shooting them into nice clovers at 25yds offhand. The Walther 9mm I had seemingly shot everything well enough some better than others of course, and my snub nose .38 shoots better than I can with those sights at any real distance. If I shot bullseye, sillouettes, or any other competition where long range and/or pin-point precision was neccesary, and shot well enough to be competitive I'd spend time on development just like a rifle, same if I hunted with pistols. For the average person shooting production semi autos or service/snub nose revolvers, the platform just doesn't have the accuracy potential or effective range to spend the time, but then you won't know til you try.
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Posted: 8/10/2012 5:43:32 PM
[Last Edit: 8/10/2012 5:46:04 PM by gee223]
I think I'll need to build a rest before I start getting serious on my pistol loads. Despite my best efforts to lie to myself, I know I'm not that good.
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Posted: 8/10/2012 5:47:15 PM
I started with Montana Gold 124 grain JHP's, .010" off the rifling, and worked up to 4.0 grains of Titegroup. It runs great out of my Glock 34.
The only variation I did was charge weights. I need a chrono though. |
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