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Posted: 8/8/2012 10:27:21 PM

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So i am wanting to start reloading. There are so many companies making so many products!

Anyway, i would like some advice from the gurus here about what materials i need for startup. I am wanting to do .40, .45, .223, and possibly .270wsm.
I am looking at spending $200ish. I saw the Lee classic kit around this price, but if this is anything like ARs, i would figure that you could piece together a kit for less.

Any advice?
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Posted: 8/8/2012 10:33:21 PM
Originally Posted By MattR:
So i am wanting to start reloading. There are so many companies making so many products!

Anyway, i would like some advice from the gurus here about what materials i need for startup. I am wanting to do .40, .45, .223, and possibly .270wsm.
I am looking at spending $200ish. I saw the Lee classic kit around this price, but if this is anything like ARs, i would figure that you could piece together a kit for less.

Any advice?


this got me started, it has everything you need for pistol reloading except dies, shellholders, and a digital caliper. for rifle add a case trimmer. little more than your budget
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/937051/rcbs-rock-chucker-supreme-master-single-stage-press-kit
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Posted: 8/9/2012 12:22:37 AM
You might have missed the info at the top of the page. FAQ's, Tutorials, Reloading Tools and Accessories.

List of needed equipment is in Reloading Tools and Accessories.

After doing some reading, get a copy of this book;


Written for the new reloader.
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Posted: 8/9/2012 12:48:28 AM
i have the lee breechlock anniversary kit.

add dies, calipers manuals and a tumbler and you are up and running,

it doesn't quite work like an ar your not really going to save anything going for individual pieces over a kit, the kits do usually offer a discount over buying the parts individually,

now the lee kit you may end up replacing some items so ...
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Originally Posted By dryflash3:
You might have missed the info at the top of the page. FAQ's, Tutorials, Reloading Tools and Accessories.

List of needed equipment is in Reloading Tools and Accessories.

After doing some reading, get a copy of this book;


Written for the new reloader.



thanks, but I was wanting advice from seasoned reloaders on what peices they would start out with. I looked through those and found specific presses, lists of supplies needed, and guides to reloading. I have made the mistake of going with the internet-popular items instead of asking around, and would like to get the right materials the first time.
If you were to buy an electronic scale, what would it be?
If you were to buy a tumbler, which would you buy?
Case trimmer? Case prep kit? Is the Lee turret an OK choice?

Thanks for your help
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Posted: 8/9/2012 11:01:08 AM
I found a good setup in your price range locally on craigslist. I ended up with a RCBS press and reloading gear and it works great for me. I can't comment on the Lee but after reading reviews about it's poor quality I thought I'd spend the money on a better press. Honestly $200 is kinda cheap to start with reloading. That would buy a press but save up another $200 because dies are $40 each (go carbide for pistol. Thank me later) and you'll want to buy $20 of powder, $30 of primers, and $50 of bullets to start out with.

Pistol rounds, for me, are the easiest to load. Rifle rounds require lubing and checking the length and trimming so it's simply more steps that take more time on a single stage press. I can usually sit still long enough to do one step for 1000 rounds then I want to quit. I do stuff in batches instead of making ~280 rifle rounds with 25.0 grains of Varget from start to finish. Personal preference and everyone does their own thing.

I have nothing but good things to say about my RCBS press, powder measure, scale, and lube pad. The ONLY thing I have a problem with is their bullet holders hold around 80 bullets max and I wish they held 100. I'm odd about things like that since bullets come in a box of 100 not 80.
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I found a good setup in your price range locally on craigslist. I ended up with a RCBS press and reloading gear and it works great for me. I can't comment on the Lee but after reading reviews about it's poor quality I thought I'd spend the money on a better press. Honestly $200 is kinda cheap to start with reloading. That would buy a press but save up another $200 because dies are $40 each (go carbide for pistol. Thank me later) and you'll want to buy $20 of powder, $30 of primers, and $50 of bullets to start out with.

Pistol rounds, for me, are the easiest to load. Rifle rounds require lubing and checking the length and trimming so it's simply more steps that take more time on a single stage press. I can usually sit still long enough to do one step for 1000 rounds then I want to quit. I do stuff in batches instead of making ~280 rifle rounds with 25.0 grains of Varget from start to finish. Personal preference and everyone does their own thing.

I have nothing but good things to say about my RCBS press, powder measure, scale, and lube pad. The ONLY thing I have a problem with is their bullet holders hold around 80 bullets max and I wish they held 100. I'm odd about things like that since bullets come in a box of 100 not 80.
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Originally Posted By durtychemist:
I found a good setup in your price range locally on craigslist. I ended up with a RCBS press and reloading gear and it works great for me. I can't comment on the Lee but after reading reviews about it's poor quality I thought I'd spend the money on a better press. Honestly $200 is kinda cheap to start with reloading. That would buy a press but save up another $200 because dies are $40 each (go carbide for pistol. Thank me later) and you'll want to buy $20 of powder, $30 of primers, and $50 of bullets to start out with.

Pistol rounds, for me, are the easiest to load. Rifle rounds require lubing and checking the length and trimming so it's simply more steps that take more time on a single stage press. I can usually sit still long enough to do one step for 1000 rounds then I want to quit. I do stuff in batches instead of making ~280 rifle rounds with 25.0 grains of Varget from start to finish. Personal preference and everyone does their own thing.

I have nothing but good things to say about my RCBS press, powder measure, scale, and lube pad. The ONLY thing I have a problem with is their bullet holders hold around 80 bullets max and I wish they held 100. I'm odd about things like that since bullets come in a box of 100 not 80.


i was 6-700 bucks in before i made my first round. i did buy everything new though. except dies, i got those off the ee
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Posted: 8/9/2012 1:10:20 PM
From what I was looking at, I figured $200ish was a fairly conservative number, not including brass/powder/primer/bullet/lube. I am not really wanting to get $500 deep into this, as I do not participate in much long range precision work. Ill start looking on craigslist though!
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Posted: 8/9/2012 1:52:13 PM
I went with the Lee Classic Turret press, for a newb it's prefect. It's much faster than a standard single stage, but without the learning curve (or price tag) of a progressive. It's great to just set up my turrets and leave them since they are only $12. Caliber changes take less than a minute.
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I bought the linked Rock Chucker kit. If all you want is what's necessary to reload, then it will serve you well. However, I decided to take a different approach, and thus could have saved money just buying the items I was going to use. I opted to purchase an RCBS Charge Master Combo powder dispenser to make more consistent loads. As such, I have never used the powder measure or scale that came with my kit. I also prefer to use Imperial Sizing Wax for my lube, so I have never used any of the lube/lube tools that came with my RCBS kit. Out of what came in the kit, the only things I really use are the press, the hand priming tool, and the manual.

Another consideration is how much you want to load and how much time you have to do it. Straight walled cartridges like common pistol rounds are easier to reload than bottleneck cartridges like .223. Bottle neck cartridges generally require an extra trip through the press because they need to be checked for length after sizing and trimmed if necessary. Trimming is by far the most tedious aspect of reloading bottleneck cartridges. There are a lot of inexpensive ways to trim brass, and they do work, but I've gotten so frustrated with the process that I finally broke down and ordered a Giraud Power Trimmer and the associated case holders. I consider it $500 well spent.

If you want to reload mainly pistol rounds in quantity, I would seriously suggest considering saving some more money and starting with a progressive. I'm going to be investing in one soon, because I mostly shoot pistol, and loading a lot on a single stage press like the Rock Chucker can be quite time consuming. A lot of people say to start with a single stage because it is simpler to learn on, but if you can only buy one press, and you want to load a lot of rounds, I think your money would be better spent on a progressive. Just start slow and follow the directions to the letter. It really sucks spending many hours over several days loading a few hundred catridges on a single stage press, only to shoot up your entire stash in an hour at the range. I do enjoy the reloading process as a hobby, but c'mon man! Also visit Ultimate Reloader to learn about using reloading equipment from the various manufacturers. The operator of Ultimate Reloader has many videos on You Tube that will help you decide which equipment will work best for you.

FWIW, after doing a lot of research I have decided to upgrade to a Hornady LNL AP progressive. I will keep my Rock Chucker and continue to use it for small batches and for sizing rifle brass, but once I get it, the LNL AP will get most of my reloading time.

For dies, especially pistol dies, I like to use Lee Deluxe die sets because they are economical and they work well. You'll also want a way to clean your brass. If money is an issue, you can avoid buying a tumbler and just use soap and water. Rinse it well and let it dry before reloading. Brass doesn't need to be shinny when it goes through the dies, it just needs to be free of grit that might scratch them.

I know my suggestions exceed your price point, but depending on the type of reloading you want to do, spending a little more money now can save you money later. I've got a shed full of equipment that I don't really use because I either didn't get or didn't follow the advice above.

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Posted: 8/10/2012 12:19:01 AM
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Originally Posted By MattR:
Originally Posted By dryflash3:
You might have missed the info at the top of the page. FAQ's, Tutorials, Reloading Tools and Accessories.

List of needed equipment is in Reloading Tools and Accessories.

After doing some reading, get a copy of this book;


Written for the new reloader.



thanks, but I was wanting advice from seasoned reloaders on what peices they would start out with. I looked through those and found specific presses, lists of supplies needed, and guides to reloading. I have made the mistake of going with the internet-popular items instead of asking around, and would like to get the right materials the first time.
If you were to buy an electronic scale, what would it be?
If you were to buy a tumbler, which would you buy?
Case trimmer? Case prep kit? Is the Lee turret an OK choice?

Thanks for your help

Then you need to state if you want to load single stage or progressive.

And you will get answers to buy every brand out there.

What you really need is a mentor, someone local to get you started.

Myself, I like to start the new reloaders I mentored with the RCBS Rockchucker kit.
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