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danderson
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Posted: 7/1/2012 10:58:49 PM

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So I bought a few hundred 55gr V-maxes as blems along with a bunch of 55gr FMJ. The FMJ are great and the only blems I can see are the occasional tarnished bullet. The V-max might be a different story. After loading a few hundred FMJ I reset the seating die for the V-max and got a little surprise. At first I just adjusted the die to set the bullets to mid-cannelure like I do for FMJ. After I loaded a handful I looked again and the rounds just look too short. I measured the OAL at 2.190 and overall they just don't look right.

seeing that the last batch of V-max I loaded were without cannelure, I am not sure if I really have an issue on my hands on not. Please look at the pic to see a sample along with one of the non cannelure bullets I had on the shelf.



So I guess I really have two questions:
1. Do I really have an issue here or is this normal?
2. If the cannelure is in the wrong place can I go ahead and seat the bullet to a more normal depth, crimp with the lee factory crimp die and shoot away? Any concerns about accuracy?

Thanks as always.
Alpha82
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Posted: 7/1/2012 11:34:13 PM
Never loaded any cannelure Vmaxes so I couldn't say if its in the wrong place. It looks like it could be normal although seating there will encroach on case capacity a little.

It is perfectly acceptable fairly common even to load cannelured bullets as if they had none. I load non-cannelure 60gr Vmaxes at 2.255COL. Yes you may use the Lee FCD, however you will probably want to adjust it for a very light crimp, as it will press a substantial groove into the bullet with ease.
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Posted: 7/2/2012 7:45:31 AM
That does not look normal. My 55gr V-Max W/C (factory firsts) measure ..810 Avg., From base to mid cannelure .340 avg.

Yes you can ignore the cannlure and seat them longer.
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Posted: 7/2/2012 8:02:23 AM
That's the first time I saw V-Max's with a cannelure. Maybe that's the reason they were blems? I would ignore the cannelure and load them to normal length. It could also be that the cannelure was located there for use in another round like the .222 Remington which has a longer neck.
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Posted: 7/2/2012 12:34:14 PM
Looking at a picture of a z-max bullet, the cannelure is definitely a little more towards the base of the bullet. Haven't seen crimped v-max before.

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Posted: 7/2/2012 3:45:40 PM
Those bullets are all kinds of screwed up.

Ignore the cannelure and load the bullets to the length where they need to be loaded.

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Posted: 7/2/2012 8:56:48 PM
Thanks guys. Glad to know I am not crazy.
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Posted: 7/2/2012 9:34:54 PM
Originally Posted By danderson:
Thanks guys. Glad to know I am not crazy.


We didn't say that.
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Posted: 7/3/2012 3:48:12 PM
and i would not crimp if its not at the cannelure. i would load to COL of 2.250
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Posted: 7/3/2012 4:56:16 PM
Below, red tip 55 grain V-Max and the green tip Z-Max, I have also never seen a V-max with a cannelure.

If your shooting zombies they will never notice the tip color difference or if the bullet had a cannelure.

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Posted: 7/3/2012 5:54:10 PM
I've got some 55gr V-MAX w/ cannelure at home I am pretty sure. I will go measure it's position and let you know.