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Posted: 1/26/2012 6:41:34 PM EST
I am about to start reloading for my .308 remington sps tactical with a 20" barrel. I want to use the Berger VLD 168gr. bullets. So what would be a good powder to start with for working up an accurate load for this 20" barrel with 168gr Bergers?

I have seen my local store carries:

Hodgdon: Varget, BL-C(2), 4895.

IMR: 3031,4064

Which one of these would be my best bet to start off with? Whats your favorite?
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Posted: 1/26/2012 7:09:24 PM EST
Originally Posted By Hogslayers:
I am about to start reloading for my .308 remington sps tactical with a 20" barrel. I want to use the Berger VLD 168gr. bullets. So what would be a good powder to start with for working up an accurate load for this 20" barrel with 168gr Bergers?

I have seen my local store carries:

Hodgdon: Varget, BL-C(2), 4895.

IMR: 3031,4064

Which one of these would be my best bet to start off with? Whats your favorite?


Varget is a very good powder in my experience. But if you can it, I strongly recommend Re15. Works very well in an old ruger 77 of mine:

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h6/308Scout/Targets/Ruger77308target-1.jpg

For my hunting rifle in .308 I use surplus 4895 which also provides for some really accurate loads. Sorry. no targets, but my hunting load with a 150 gr. bullet always groups well under 1".

GG

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Posted: 1/26/2012 7:40:57 PM EST
Does the Varget perform well in a .223 as well because that would be great if I could use the same powder in my AR-15?
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Posted: 1/26/2012 8:22:23 PM EST
Originally Posted By Hogslayers:
Does the Varget perform well in a .223 as well because that would be great if I could use the same powder in my AR-15?


yes it does..just gotta do your home work on load developmant and see what powder charge gets your accuracy.
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Posted: 1/27/2012 3:35:40 AM EST
Ok thanks guys looks like varget will be a good start seeing I can use it for two of my rifles.
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Posted: 1/30/2012 6:24:31 PM EST
Benchmark works very well for Hornady 168 grain A Max.
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I use H4895 for 3006 308 and 223
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Posted: 2/2/2012 7:14:56 AM EST

Originally Posted By Hogslayers:
I am about to start reloading for my .308 Remington sps tactical with a 20" barrel. I want to use the Berger VLD 168gr. bullets. So what would be a good powder to start with for working up an accurate load for this 20" barrel with 168gr Berger's?

I have seen my local store carries:

Hodgdon: Varget, BL-C(2), 4895.

IMR: 3031,4064

Which one of these would be my best bet to start off with? What's your favorite?
I have tried all of those in my bolt rifle. My rifle liked BLC2 (ball powder) best with 150 gr Hunting bullets I use.

You will have to test loads in your rifle to find what it likes.

Varget is a popular choice with match bullets.

I quit using Varget years ago and moved on to better measuring powders with the same accuracy.

IMR-3031, 4064, and 4895 all share the measuring problem with Varget.

Next time I load some 308, I will be trying out IMR-8208 XBR, as I have had great success with it in 223.

It's a short length extruded powder, that measures like ball powder.

Good luck

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Posted: 2/3/2012 3:16:39 AM EST
I've had very good results with Varget in both 168gr Hornady HPBT and 69gr Speer HPBT
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Posted: 2/3/2012 3:28:30 PM EST
IMR-8208XBR has worked very well with 168 Amax's for me. RL-15, TAC, and PowerPro 2000MR also work very well out of my AR10 carbine. The later powder drives Lapua 185 D46's to 2500 accurately out of my 16" barrel without excessive pressure signs, .6 MOA. TAC & 2000MR are spherical powders so meter like water, the XBR is very nearly as good through my RL550. I also am trying AR-comp but screwed up my first OCW test so don't have good data yet.
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Posted: 2/3/2012 5:07:30 PM EST
If 223 and 308 are the criteria for one powder than I would suggest 8208XBR.

Varget, 4895, 3013 and 4064 are not suited to 223 (longer stick powder) particularly in a progressive although all would work well in 308.

Another advantage with 8208 is the fact it is designed to be less sensitive to temperature changes which means less deviation on POA for different weather.

8208 is also excellent on heavy 223 loads.

However, with WC844 so cheap at Hi-tech Ammo ($85.00 per 8 pound jug) it would make more sense to have 8208 or Varget for 308 and the WC844 for 55/62 gr 223 loads


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