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Wash-Ar15
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Posted: 1/1/2011 4:33:46 PM
the 2 cartridges that seem,IMHO,to have the lowest return on savings are the 9mm and 556. I reload the 9mm because I can use lead,which I can not do for the 5.56

so do you load the 5.56 because it save s money,or for more accurate loads?
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Posted: 1/1/2011 4:36:12 PM
Originally Posted By Wash-Ar15:
the 2 cartridges that seem,IMHO,to have the lowest return on savings are the 9mm and 556. I reload the 9mm because I can use lead,which I can not do for the 5.56

so do you load the 5.56 because it save s money,or for more accurate loads?


yes

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Posted: 1/1/2011 4:52:00 PM
Reloading to save money is a dead end. Tell you why .The drive for accuracy is a passion. A passion that has little regard for cost. Reloading to save money has very little regard for quality components because of cost and even less regard for prep work for time concerns. If pulling the trigger and making a lot of noise with little thought to where that bullet lands on paper is your thing. So be it. Blast away. I use some Armscor for .223 in 62 grain and 55 grain. It's loaded with much the same care as my precision stuff. Meaning I still have expectations in performance. Same thing with 9mm.... Truth be told there is a lot of us who would load .22lr if possible.
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Posted: 1/1/2011 4:53:01 PM
I have a spread sheet with the math on it. Not counting my time its about half priced to reload 223/556. Case prep takes time. And yes a little more accurate.
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Posted: 1/1/2011 4:57:22 PM
You can buy steel case ammo for about the same price you can load plinking ammo. What you load will be more accurate but you won't save much and you have your time invested. For accuracy reloading is the wat to go. You can reload match grade ammo for just a bit more than plinking ammo it just takes a little more time. If you casually blast through a few hundred rounds reloading is probaly not for you, but if want accurate ammo for target shooting or hunting then reloading is the way to go unless you have a lot of money and very little free time.
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Posted: 1/1/2011 5:00:01 PM
Both!
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Posted: 1/1/2011 5:33:40 PM
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I load, maybe, 500~1000 rounds per year of cheap 55gr FMJ 223 using TAC for plinking purposes in the AR. Typically I use range brass that has been culled from my super anal brass sorting process.

The main reason I load 223 is for my Savage 110FP. I have one pet load for that application. With the amount of time I have invested in sorting/prepping brass, weighing powder, and measuring this, that, or the other for this load I doubt a save a whole lot. But, reloading is still a hobby to me, not a chore, so I guess in theory I am saving money. I also shoot this same load in my AR occassionally as it is accurate in that platform as well.

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Posted: 1/1/2011 5:49:21 PM
Mostly to save money.
Lately I have been shooting steel up close with frangible ammo that I make which is quite a bit cheaper than buying.
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Posted: 1/1/2011 5:49:35 PM
My loads are more accurate that factory ammunition and substantially cheaper as well.
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Posted: 1/1/2011 6:00:52 PM
I need to downgrade my hand size.....reloading 556 is tedious as hell
give me some .308 cartridges and im a happy camper
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Posted: 1/1/2011 6:02:04 PM
For me, it's economy.

I'm using components that I bought over 10 years ago.

bullets were $25/1000
primers were $15/ 1000
powder was $68/ 8 lb jug

Using range pickup brass or one of the 1000's of 1x and 2x fired brass, I'm spending about 8- 9 cents/ round.
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Posted: 1/1/2011 6:19:07 PM
Both.

I reload 9mm for the same two reasons as well.
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Posted: 1/1/2011 6:26:03 PM
Right now for blasting ammo. However it has become more accurate with my load developments.

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Posted: 1/1/2011 6:28:49 PM
It is easy to do both, up to a point. Going to extremes accuracy-wise will cost, but a considerable advantage over factory ammo, both in cost and accuracy is both easy and cheap.
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Posted: 1/1/2011 6:32:48 PM
I am relatively new to reloading... But I initially got into relaoding to save money...

I can reload a hundred FMJ for ~$15

But I can reload a hundred Hornady Varmint PSP for about ~$20 or Remington PSP for about the same price... Considering that I got the brass for free from range pick-ups that I had saved and accumulated for years before I got into reloading...

So, I got into it to save money, then found I can put together a pretty good cartridge that costs $18-25 for 20 rounds for me the cost is $4 for 20

And nothing you buy out of the box (that I could ever afford in quantity) can equal the consistency of something where you have measured every component exactly yourself. Period.

I have saved a substantial amount from reloading, minus the start-up costs... And I have put together a very high quality cartridge that I like the consistency of, and I am confident in...
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Posted: 1/1/2011 6:35:35 PM
To save money on accurate loads.

Cheaper to load match grade ammunition that has been tailored to what my rifles like, than to buy factory 69 or 77 grain OTM or MBTHP ammunition.

I don't bother reloading for .223 bulk replicas.
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Posted: 1/1/2011 6:43:29 PM
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Originally Posted By Kuraki:
To save money on accurate loads.

Cheaper to load match grade ammunition that has been tailored to what my rifles like, than to buy factory 69 or 77 grain OTM or MBTHP ammunition.

I don't bother reloading for .223 bulk replicas.

Put me down for this.

Edit- for pistol- cost & reliability. Some autos want some tweeking of the load to run well.
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Posted: 1/1/2011 6:45:48 PM
Both

Match grade ammo
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bulk training ammo for use inside of 50 yards


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Posted: 1/1/2011 6:51:07 PM
I don't shoot .223(don't have one, the wife does), but I do have everything needed to load for it..just haven't gotten around to it yet. I can produce more accurate ammo for lower cost than what a generic box of .223 sells for, because I can tailor every detail of the load for best performance in that rifle.


With 9mm, until recently I didn't own one(wife did) and ammo was so cheap I never bothered buying dies, etc. to load for it. Now, I load my own, with my own cast bullets for around $2-$4 per 50, versus buying factory FMJ for what $12 per 50?

In general, if you shoot a couple of hundred rounds a year, you'll probably save some money by reloading. Most folks will generally spend the money they saved on more components to load more ammo, so it ends up being a wash.
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Posted: 1/1/2011 7:25:15 PM
Accuracy

But try buying a box of 20 .223 factory loaded 70gr TSX for the price I can reload them, I can reload a whole box of 50 bullets as cheap as you can buy a box of 20 factory loaded rounds.

I put as much time and effort in my 55gr FMJBT loads as I do my 75gr BTHP loads, no brass gets loaded without being fully match prepped(plinkers are not weight sorted) no matter what the load and I do this so I can use any brass thats already prepped to load match or FMJ without reguard to how the cases are prepped(and it's an accuracy thing as well).

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Posted: 1/1/2011 7:30:54 PM
I reload .223 for plinking right now.
Once I get more reloading time under my belt......and more money I will work on precision loads.
But above all I do it because I like it and relieves stress for me.
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Posted: 1/1/2011 8:30:03 PM
both
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Posted: 1/1/2011 9:18:30 PM
I reload 223 for both. For blasting ammo out of my AR, the cost is the same as buying steel cased ammo but I am not a real fan of using Wolf or similar ammo. If you compare to brass cased new ammo, reloading is cheaper. For my 223 heavy barrel bolt gun, I need 1000 to 1200 rounds for the annual P-dog trip. No way I can afford to buy that much ammo that is not FMJ and I don't know that even if I could, I would necessarily get the same level of accuracy I get now.

Reloading is an activity I enjoy so I don't mind doing it.
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Posted: 1/1/2011 9:30:44 PM
Economy.

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Posted: 1/1/2011 9:38:17 PM
for a while (years) the question in my mind was "well if I do get an AR what am I going to do with it? Just take these HSLD classes and in the meantime wait in the bedroom with a tac vest, two surefires, bayonet, etc?"

lol


So I ended up buying and selling my handguns.


Then I discovered Highpower competition and things changed dramastically.

Now I knew exactly what type of AR to get, that I could test myself out to 600 yards in organized competion, and I found that I could make my own ammo.


So I load for precision and a purpose.

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Posted: 1/1/2011 10:22:14 PM
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I reload because I enjoy it, it's my favorite hobby.

Besides to have range ammo, and precession loads, the main advantage is to have the means to have ammo and shoot when the stores shelf's are bare.....

That wasn't so long ago.

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