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Posted: 9/6/2010 8:49:05 PM
I trying to find some load data on this, and yes I did search the Powder sites on the sticky above, nothing specifically for the above type of 55 grain bullet. I'm buying powder locally to save on the Hazmat fee and I have a supply of Winchester small rifle primers, using once fired mixed brass, mostly LC and PMC.

I'm hoping to be able to find either TAC, BCL2, H335, W748 or AA2230 locally.
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Posted: 9/6/2010 8:53:58 PM
The answer to your question is in the sticky right above your post.

http://www.ar15.com/content/page.html?id=206

If you don't have MS Office, you'll need to download OpenOffice, which is free, to view the xls file in the program called CALC.

There are some good loads in there with the components you mentioned. I've printed the weights out which I'll use and skipped the rest.
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Posted: 9/6/2010 11:23:50 PM
The Hornady Reloading Manual 7th Edition has:
TAC
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Posted: 9/7/2010 8:23:53 AM
use load data for whatever other 55 FMJ projectile you can find and work up your loads starting from min to max. You'll discover the true max load for the Horandy 55 gr FMJ projectile in a safe manner
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Posted: 9/7/2010 8:31:14 AM
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Posted: 9/7/2010 10:35:17 AM
Benchmark, best powder I have used yet for 50-62gr bullets, 25gr's of BM in LC brass, Rem 7 1/2 primer(WSR will be fine), 2.255" COL is a tack driver for me.

Start at 23.5 and work up, I'm sure you'll find a load that is awesome in your rifle.
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Posted: 9/7/2010 10:37:37 AM
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Posted: 9/7/2010 11:04:00 AM
I never could get better than 1"+ from H335, yet Benchmark will shoot MOA or better easy and meters almost just as good.
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Posted: 9/7/2010 11:17:04 AM
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I never could get better than 1"+ from H335, yet Benchmark will shoot MOA or better easy and meters almost just as good.


Well, that is probably true, but like the other guys I have never tried any other powder, so I have to suggest H355. Right? Besides, its almost military powder so it has to be the best, right? Because its milspec.

Have been meaning to try Tac; thought I read some positive reviews about it (supposedly more accurate and more clean than 335.
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Posted: 9/7/2010 12:05:17 PM
I switched from Varget to H335 when I stopped shooting highpower and never saw a reason to use anything else. I am not a speed freak so my standard load is 24.5 with whatever brass you have and a 55gr. bullet of your choice. Best of all is that H335 meters really well out of my Uniflow, which in itself is really saying something.
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Posted: 9/7/2010 12:05:51 PM
I love TAC with Hornndy 55gr FMJ's. I have a load (that's maybe a little hot) that gets me just over MOA most of the time.
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Posted: 9/7/2010 12:54:32 PM
Keep it coming guys...some good suggestions so far and I really appreciate it.

This is my first go round with .223/5.5.56 I have about 1500 once fired cases, mostly Lake City, Federal, PPU, and PMC and I'm heading down to the local fun shop soon to pick my first pound of powder and pick up a set of RCBS standard dies. The bullets and a Hornady primer pocket cleaner are on the way from MidSouth. I have about 700-800 Winchester SR primers, that have been sitting in the cabinet for at least 15 years, maybe more if the old man had them...but I figure they should still be good. Dry, cool basement.

I have started cleaning and sorting cases, since I've never done this before I figure I might want to start my first batches off the same case?

This is going to be a general all purpose "plinking load" whereas I'm hoping that eventually I can use mixed brass and just have a safe, accurate all round "plinking" load, I can quickly and easily put together. I want to duplicate something between PMC and XM193, sure accuracy is always a nice plus.

Reloading for two AR's.

16" Stainless Rock River with a Wylde chamber
16 BCM SS410 with a SAM-R chamber.
Both are 1/8 twist.

I have other plans for heavier bullets and accuracy loads.

All suggestions, tips etc., are welcome.

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Posted: 9/7/2010 1:27:12 PM
Another good place for load info is printed reloading manuals...like Hornady #7...you might want to pick up a manual or two while you're at the fun shop. They're full of useful info.
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Posted: 9/7/2010 4:54:31 PM
H335 with Hornady 55fmj's plus you can trust Hodgdon's data for 55 fmj's.
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Posted: 9/7/2010 5:00:07 PM
I have about the same mix of brass for my plinking round. I use 24.5gr of TAC and CCI primers.
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Posted: 9/7/2010 11:23:36 PM
You didn't mention what you have for reloading tools, single stage, progressive, brand of PM, powder measure.

If you are throwing charges out of a metal PM, ball powder is the easiest to measure.

Some good ones for use in 223 are Tac, BLC2, AA-2230, H-335, and W-748. Listed in my order of preference.

Your Win SR primers will be fine, I've loaded 40 year old primers, they worked well.

Get a couple of reloading manuals, Hornady 7, Lyman 49, and Sierra 5, again listed in my order of preference.

The Hornady and Sierra have special sections with AR loads. All three have great "how to load' sections.

Go up to the FAQ's at the top of the page, and read up. Then you will understand the difference between 223 and 5.56 loads.
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Posted: 9/8/2010 4:28:31 PM
Originally Posted By EWP:
Benchmark, best powder I have used yet for 50-62gr bullets, 25gr's of BM in LC brass, Rem 7 1/2 primer(WSR will be fine), 2.255" COL is a tack driver for me.

Start at 23.5 and work up, I'm sure you'll find a load that is awesome in your rifle.


Yep I love Benchmark. Very accurate powder. I love BLC(2) as well as Varget. H335 is good too. The problem with Varget is you can't fit enough powder in the case for a lighter loads without compressing the crap out of it.
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Posted: 9/11/2010 10:30:49 AM
Thanks guys, I have several "older" manuals and I saw the Hornady #7 at the fun shop the other day. I was hoping to find some on-line data I could corroborate or feel comfortable with so I could but the bucks in components.

I found a pound of TAC so that's going to be my first batch, using once fired PPU cases, topped off with the Hornady 55 grain FMJBT w/c and lit by some very old WSR primers.
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Posted: 9/11/2010 8:40:37 PM
Originally Posted By Jitterbug:
Thanks guys, I have several "older" manuals and I saw the Hornady #7 at the fun shop the other day. I was hoping to find some on-line data I could corroborate or feel comfortable with so I could but the bucks in components.

I found a pound of TAC so that's going to be my first batch, using once fired PPU cases, topped off with the Hornady 55 grain FMJBT w/c and lit by some very old WSR primers.


Strikes me as backward thinking. Forward thinking to me is to choose the bullet, then buy the bullet maker's book for proper component selection. Recent wisdom on my part says if choosing a brand of bullet, ......say Nosler. I didn't know what grain, but knew I wanted to try their ballistic tipped rifle bullets so I bought the book first.
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Posted: 9/11/2010 11:35:28 PM
most of the 55fmj bullets are made near identical as they are replacements for 55gr fmj military loads. most of the data out there is for .223, if you want 5.56 load data check out the Sierra website. you will be surprised at the difference in charge weights.

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Posted: 9/12/2010 5:29:15 AM
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Posted: 9/12/2010 10:43:42 AM
Originally Posted By advntrjnky:
most of the 55fmj bullets are made near identical as they are replacements for 55gr fmj military loads. most of the data out there is for .223, if you want 5.56 load data check out the Sierra website. you will be surprised at the difference in charge weights.

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You would think that. But experience says otherwise. For example, bulk Winchester 55gr FMJs aren't even close to identical to each other. It's like they have a dozen bullet making machines and haven't tried to adjust them to make the bullets similar. I've been able to line up 10 randomly selected Win bullets with 10 different lengths, different heights or cannelure, and of course different weights. Hornady's 55gr FMJs, on the other hand, are extremely consistent. They also have thicker jackets than GI bullets, so they're not as likely to fragment the way real M193 rounds' bullets will.
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Posted: 9/12/2010 11:10:55 AM
TAC, 2230, H335. I have used all three and any of those will give you satisfactory results with 55gr FMJBT.

My recommendation? Buy the powder you are most likely to be able to readily purchase in the future. When you work up a sweet load you will not want to be scrambling for the powder. Pick the powder you can get more of readily, work up the load, find the sweet spot, and then buy more powder and repeat. You only get about 280 rounds/pound so you will need 6 pounds to start with for your 1500 pieces of brass.

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Posted: 9/12/2010 11:35:34 AM
I would recommend you stay away from CCI 400's. They start flattening very quickly as you work up your loads. Go ahead and spend the money on some BR4's or some other match grade primers.
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Posted: 9/12/2010 1:38:05 PM
Originally Posted By Boosted98gsx:
I would recommend you stay away from CCI 400's. They start flattening very quickly as you work up your loads. Go ahead and spend the money on some BR4's or some other match grade primers.


What he said, the CCI 400 is like a Rem 6 1/2 and is not meant for 55K PSI loads, Rem 7 1/2, CCI 450, CCI BR4, Fed 205M, & Wolf SRM or 5.56 primers all work very well in high pressure loads, I use rem 7 1/2's only in .223 loads.
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