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Posted: 2/12/2010 5:00:46 PM
[Last Edit: 2/12/2010 5:01:02 PM by ATICSR_Christopher]
THE IMAGE ABOVE IS A PAID ADVERTISEMENT On January 2010 American Tactical Imports Inc received official notification from the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and explosives that the original barrel shroud (aka: fake suppressor) supplied with your GSG 5 SD model must be replaced. It has been determined that this shroud is regulated under the National Firearms Act. American Tactical will provide a replacement shroud at no charge for each GSG 5 SD model sold or currently in inventory. Consumers in possession of a GSG 5 SD model with the original shroud in place on the firearm are now in violation of the NFA. To avoid continued violation of the NFA, ATI asks that all persons in possession obtain a replacement shroud as soon as possible. We anticipate arrival of the new shrouds to begin by the middle of February 2010. IMPORTANT: THE ORIGINAL SD MODEL SHROUD MUST BE RETURNED ACOMPANIED BY THE FIREARM SERIAL NUMBER BEFORE A REPLACEMENT SHROUD IS ISSUED. THE DIAMETER OF THE SD SHROUD IS 1-9/16”. DO NOT RETURN THE SMALLER CARBINE SHROUD. WHAT TO DO: If possible return your old shroud to the dealer where purchased and show him this notice. The shroud will be returned to ATI along with a list of serial numbers from the guns that the shrouds were removed. ATI will send replacements to the dealer for pick up at your convenience; ATI will be sending replacements as fast as logistics allow. If your dealer is out of business or difficult to reach, or you purchased your gun used, from a consumer, return the shroud directly by US mail or UPS to American Tactical Imports Inc. 100 Airpark Drive Rochester, NY 14624. PLEASE TRY NOT TO CALL US. We will provide comprehensive information on our web site www.americantactical.us , and www.ar15.com or by e-mail to atiexchange@americantactical.us REMEMBER, INCLUDE THE FIREARM SERIAL NUMBER WITH EACH SHROUD OR A REPLACEMENT WILL NOT BE ISSUED. This action IS NOT being instituted through any fault and is strictly due to NFA compliance. American Tactical will assume the responsibility to satisfy the requirements in an effort to minimize the impact on our customers and protect your investment. We at American Tactical Imports Inc. sincerely apologize for any inconvenience caused by this unfortunate situation. Sincerely, Anthony DiChario President C.E.O. retailcandoc.021210 |
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Posted: 2/12/2010 5:03:21 PM
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Posted: 2/12/2010 5:53:53 PM
UUMMMMMMM...that sux.
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Posted: 2/12/2010 6:13:02 PM
Good to know. Also good to know that it is not the standard carbines!
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Posted: 2/12/2010 6:18:17 PM
How much more is the replacement going to weigh? Is the finish any better on the new one. Mine chips the paint if you look at it wrong. Will it look the same when installed on the rifle?
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Posted: 2/12/2010 9:18:49 PM
OK, since this applies ONLY to the GSG5/SD does this mean that the standard GSG5-carbine is in the clear????
Or is the fate of the GSG5-carbine "yet to be determined"?????????? |
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Posted: 2/12/2010 10:00:03 PM
Another damn delay on getting an SD conversion kit!
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Posted: 2/12/2010 10:26:51 PM
Originally Posted By sporttouringtech:
How much more is the replacement going to weigh? Ditto on this. If it has to be a solid piece its going to weigh a ton! |
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Posted: 2/12/2010 11:40:53 PM
And I am to be responsible to ship it back? I would like you to pick it up
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Posted: 2/13/2010 2:20:23 AM
interesting, brings up a couple of questions, wasnt it passed before importation? and what reason do they give?
just interested, ill be keeping my original SD shroud as i'm in England |
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Posted: 2/13/2010 8:16:41 AM
Originally Posted By RedNeck2922:
And I am to be responsible to ship it back? I would like you to pick it up You act like this is their fault instead of ATF stupidity. |
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Posted: 2/13/2010 8:29:37 AM
just curious, what will the replacement shroud look like?
will it be the smaller version, or something completely different? garyz |
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Posted: 2/13/2010 8:38:58 AM
Originally Posted By RedNeck2922:
And I am to be responsible to ship it back? I would like you to pick it up Keep it than, enjoy prison. I think ATI has been great with their customer service. Would be interesting to hear why the idiots at the ATF cleared it for import and then backtracked. |
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Posted: 2/13/2010 9:24:52 AM
Originally Posted By RedNeck2922:
And I am to be responsible to ship it back? I would like you to pick it up Just call 202-927-8330 and they will send somebody out to collect it, just hide your dog first |
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Posted: 2/13/2010 10:07:44 AM
[Last Edit: 2/13/2010 10:29:18 AM by HaveBlue83]
edited for the man.
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Posted: 2/13/2010 10:13:06 AM
Is there an issue with the carbine models?
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Posted: 2/13/2010 10:14:21 AM
[Last Edit: 2/13/2010 10:33:35 AM by HaveBlue83]
isnt the carbine and the SD the same thing besides "girth"? i cant see why they would have changed the design without letting ATI know about it.....even thought they already changed the finish.
i am livid. not liking this at all. it's like everyone important wants to ban the GSG or something. i....i dunno.....makes me wanna sell the damn things for a M&P 15-22 and a Sig-522. |
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Posted: 2/13/2010 11:20:08 AM
[Last Edit: 2/13/2010 11:20:53 AM by SETXshooter]
Does the fake can actually reduce the dB ? I know that "we must comply or else" but seriously, what is the reason behind this? Is it based on potential? Should we stop selling 2 liter colas and baby bottle nipples?
Isn't the end of the barrel even with the muzzle end of the "can"? Wes |
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Posted: 2/13/2010 11:32:55 AM
Originally Posted By sh00ter787:
interesting, brings up a couple of questions, wasnt it passed before importation? and what reason do they give? I echo the above quote - What reason did they give for the can falling under NFA? |
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Posted: 2/13/2010 12:02:32 PM
Im guessing because big brother said so......even though we have a RIGHT to know.....
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Posted: 2/13/2010 3:09:19 PM
Originally Posted By Coop4570:
OK, since this applies ONLY to the GSG5/SD does this mean that the standard GSG5-carbine is in the clear???? Or is the fate of the GSG5-carbine "yet to be determined"?????????? From this bit here it reads to me that the carbine is clear for now. IMPORTANT: THE ORIGINAL SD MODEL SHROUD MUST BE RETURNED ACOMPANIED BY THE FIREARM SERIAL NUMBER BEFORE A REPLACEMENT SHROUD IS ISSUED. THE DIAMETER OF THE SD SHROUD IS 1-9/16”. DO NOT RETURN THE SMALLER CARBINE SHROUD. |
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Posted: 2/13/2010 4:04:55 PM
I'm thinking they don't like it because if you were to drill/perforate/port the barrel it would have *some* effect on the Db level.
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Posted: 2/13/2010 4:28:07 PM
Originally Posted By Mach1run:
Originally Posted By Coop4570:
OK, since this applies ONLY to the GSG5/SD does this mean that the standard GSG5-carbine is in the clear???? Or is the fate of the GSG5-carbine "yet to be determined"?????????? From this bit here it reads to me that the carbine is clear for now. IMPORTANT: THE ORIGINAL SD MODEL SHROUD MUST BE RETURNED ACOMPANIED BY THE FIREARM SERIAL NUMBER BEFORE A REPLACEMENT SHROUD IS ISSUED. THE DIAMETER OF THE SD SHROUD IS 1-9/16”. DO NOT RETURN THE SMALLER CARBINE SHROUD. Owning a GSG5-carbine, I would like to think that also but..... reading the links provided in the original thread on this subject Attention All GSG5 Carbine Owners!!!! when asked if the subject could be put to rest ATI responded... Originally Posted By ATICSR_Christopher:
not yet and in response to Osprey's comment ATI responded... Originally Posted By ATICSR_Christopher:
ATF has long held that fake "hollow" suppressors won't fly. Had the mfgr stayed with the early 'solid' fake cans there wouldn't be a problem.
A letter from Tech branch is coming soon. and you are? ATI and the ATF are looking into this particular situation. I will have info available soon although the FTB is no longer involved with this particular situation. the official information will be released by ATI once we are told to do so by the ATF but at this time there is no other statement we can make until ATF gives the go ahead while they figure out how to handle their mistake. Just hang out guys and we'll let you know what we can when we're able to, and in the mean time don't believe everything you read. so to me at least, the jury is still out on the issue of whether or not the standard carbine is effected by this as ATI has yet to state that it absolutely is not. |
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Posted: 2/13/2010 4:40:04 PM
what a bunch of shi+. Doesn't the ATF have anything better to do than come after firearms owners who own guns that THE ATF APPROVED IN THE FIRST PLACE??
I reiterate...what a bunch of shi+ ka |
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Posted: 2/13/2010 5:16:34 PM
This is what happens when do-gooders write letters to ATF asking for opinion rather than keeping their mouths shut.
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Posted: 2/13/2010 5:38:36 PM
Originally Posted By osprey21: This is what happens when do-gooders write letters to ATF asking for opinion rather than keeping their mouths shut. +1 ![]() |
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