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Posted: 8/11/2014 11:11:50 PM EDT
Why would anyone want what basically amounts to a small axe with limited use as a melee weapon?
Why not, I say? Now, onward to the "best" tomahawk... I would think that one would want the benefit of a full tang. If I'm hacking something to death, I don't want that axe head coming apart from the body. Am I wrong here? I see offerings by Benchmade, SOG, Cold Steel, CRKT, Emerson, Browning, Smith & Wesson, etc. all of them use different steel with prices that range from less than $100 to over $300. I'm sure a lot of that cost is just as much the materials and construction as it is the name and the warranty it carries. Zero Tolerance and Kershaw are releasing their offerings soon. Who has one? What kind of use has it seen? Do you still have it? Did you sell it? What did you like and not like about it? Realistically, it would probably see limited use in a camping context, but I would like it to stand up as a solid fighting tool if it ever came to that. Do I need to spend $400 on a tomahawk just to get that kind of guarantee? |
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The word Tomahawk was named after my great great great grandfather.
No joke, his name was Tom a Blacksmith that made "hatchets" for Indians. The Indian word for a cutting tool was hawk... Tom Hawk. Just an interesting fact I learned the other day. The only reason I would want a tomahawk without a full tang is that you can always replace the handle. Once a full tang breaks it's kinda hard to fix. I have a few of the Cold Steel hatchets, with the hammer face. |
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Look at the Eastwing offerings. They have been making hammers and hatchets for a long damn time. Great quality.
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I held an RMJ Shrike at blade show and it was awesome. I held a few others but can't remember who made them. I ended up getting a Cold Steel trail hawk to play with and modify while I think about having a custom hawk forged.
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I've got a few synthetic and wood handled hawks but I'd really like an all steel model.
The RMJs are very nice but I don't really want to wait 8 months and pay $500 for a toy I'm going to use to beat on shit. The Estwings seem very solid and the price is attractive but I hate the design. Both the bit and the spike seem to be designed to get stuck in things. |
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I have a Benchmade Killian....great tomahawk...I want an RMJ, but for now I'll stick with the Benchmade for less than half the cost.
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My wife has a Sog, it's not bad for the price point and has held up just fine considering that the only thing she does with it is throw it at trees to try and get it to stick in one, most of the time unsuccessfully.
I have an Estwing, it's seen limited firewood duty but it's build just as solid as their regular axes are. |
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I make and own a bunch of them. They are a great force multiplier for fighting and have other utilitarian uses. They are very different from a hatchet though.
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My wife has a Sog, it's not bad for the price point and has held up just fine considering that the only thing she does with it is throw it at trees to try and get it to stick in one, most of the time unsuccessfully. I have an Estwing, it's seen limited firewood duty but it's build just as solid as their regular axes are. View Quote So far, this is my exact experience as well. I haven't breached any doors or hacked any cars, but for the price and size, I take it with me anytime I go out doors. That doesn't mean I don't have my eyes on others. The CRKT Kangee is next on my list though |
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My father carried a tomahawk in the Korean War. He had at least two confirmed kills in hand to hand combat with it. It was lost when he was medically evacuated due to wounds. I wish I had a picture of it.
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Quoted: The word Tomahawk was named after my great great great grandfather. No joke, his name was Tom a Blacksmith that made "hatchets" for Indians. The Indian word for a cutting tool was hawk... Tom Hawk. Just an interesting fact I learned the other day. The only reason I would want a tomahawk without a full tang is that you can always replace the handle. Once a full tang breaks it's kinda hard to fix. I have a few of the Cold Steel hatchets, with the hammer face. View Quote |
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I am in love with the new CRKT / Ryan Johnson collaborations. ( RMJ Tactical )
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View Quote I lol'd at that. The Gerber hawk is on my list of wanted gear. |
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Very cool looking suggestions, guys. I was advised by a member via IM that in Texas the tomahawk is considered a club and should not be carried on my person. In Texas, that would apply to non-CHL holders, but I have a CHL. I, technically, should be able to carry a Tomahawk on my person if I'm back country camping/hiking as long as I am also carrying a handgun with a valid license. It's one of those things where I probably should do as little as possible to invite the man in my life which means not waving it around a bunch of kids at a family campground after a day of drinking repeating lines from "Conan the Destroyer."
I decided to order an ESEE 5 - for light camping/hiking activities - in the interim until I decide which specimen of Tomahawk awesomeness I want to put my money toward. |
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Guild Knives & Tools has some pretty good ones that aren't too expensive.....
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Damn I wish they'd offer that one with just the face of the blade sharpened. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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[RMJ Loggerhead] Damn I wish they'd offer that one with just the face of the blade sharpened. It doesn't hurt to ask them they are very responsive to requests. [email protected] |
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[RMJ Loggerhead] Damn I wish they'd offer that one with just the face of the blade sharpened. It doesn't hurt to ask them they are very responsive to requests. [email protected] I just did, thanks! |
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A couple from RMJ, Shrike and Talon. http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh78/bullf-16/safe_zps94999176.jpg Also, Zombie tools Deuce II and Zombie Tools Traumahawk http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh78/bullf-16/ZT_zps02cba9b3.jpg View Quote How are those held on to your safe? |
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Quoted: Quoted: A couple from RMJ, Shrike and Talon. http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh78/bullf-16/safe_zps94999176.jpg Also, Zombie tools Deuce II and Zombie Tools Traumahawk http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh78/bullf-16/ZT_zps02cba9b3.jpg How are those held on to your safe? I use big neodymium magnets, i think they are 1" x 3/4" x 1/4". From amazon. The folders are held with much smaller neodymium magnets. Cheap |
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I am in love with the new CRKT / Ryan Johnson collaborations. ( RMJ Tactical ) View Quote Yeap Im liking those as well.So far seem to be excellent quality.Just got a Kangee and Im waiting for the Chogan to come in. Im also a big fan of the Cold Steel Pipe and Rifleman hawks.Absolute working beasts, especially for how little they cost. The only "tactical" type hawk I have is the CS Trench Hawk and its a fine piece as well....that said I much prefer the wood haft traditional type pole hawks from a functional standpoint.I use them for bushcraft,hunting and the like. |
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Quoted: Look at the Eastwing offerings. They have been making hammers and hatchets for a long damn time. Great quality. View Quote Eastwing has some inexpensive ones that seem to mirror the SOG Fast-Hawk. I own a SOG and my first impression was the Eastwing was better made. About the same price. |
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Look at the Eastwing offerings. They have been making hammers and hatchets for a long damn time. Great quality. View Quote I agree completely.Ive had the Estwing Sportsman and Campers axes for many years and they have shown to be tough as an anvil. I plan on picking up one of the Estwing Tomahawk axes with the leather stack handles real soon. |
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I rub them on my hair and the static makes them stick I use big neodymium magnets, i think they are 1" x 3/4" x 1/4". From amazon. The folders are held with much smaller neodymium magnets. Cheap View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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A couple from RMJ, Shrike and Talon. http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh78/bullf-16/safe_zps94999176.jpg Also, Zombie tools Deuce II and Zombie Tools Traumahawk http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh78/bullf-16/ZT_zps02cba9b3.jpg How are those held on to your safe? I use big neodymium magnets, i think they are 1" x 3/4" x 1/4". From amazon. The folders are held with much smaller neodymium magnets. Cheap Seven day wait and no open carry on those right? That's a really good idea for those finger pinching bastages. |
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American Tomahawks suck. I had one, and the bolt that holds the head on broke, and the head came off. Junk. Go for the RMJ Tactical if you are gonna go tomahawk.
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American Tomahawks suck. I had one, and the bolt that holds the head on broke, and the head came off. Junk. Go for the RMJ Tactical if you are gonna go tomahawk. View Quote Are you talking about the Cold Steel tomahawks that have a "American Tomahawk Co." sticker on them? If so,then that "bolt" is simply a 5/16" long,approx., set screw.The set screws are used,as far as I understand it, to prevent the bit(blade) from dropping down the haft(handle) if knocked loose from a bad throw etc....preventing an unsuspecting newbie from getting mashed/cut/pinched hand/fingers in the process..... The Cold Steel tomahawks are a traditional friction fit bit on a taper fit haft(eye,or hole, in the bit is tapered to match ),thus the further up the bit goes toward the flared head of the haft the tighter it gets,similar to say how a pick mattock is made.That is unless the tapered haft is poorly fit/undersized or damaged to the point that the bit can fly off the head of the haft,if so thats dangerous and defective and it needs a new haft.Same as any original design tomahawk with a wood haft. As a note,the CRKT RMJ Woods series Chogan and Kangee tomahawks are the same traditional design and use Tennessee hickory tapered tomahawk hafts....which Ive bought locally for years to use on my forged wrap and welds and Cold Steel Hawks as replacements. Lots of videos available that describe/show all the details I mentioned in regards to the traditional wood haft hawks,including the CRKT RMJ hawks,and the Cold Steel hawks(and the set screw detail). |
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I've had an RMJ Shrike for several years...my favorite.
Purchased a CRKT Kangee a while back and like it a lot (makes sense...designed by Ryan Johnson of RMJ). I wanted a small hawk to fasten to my Kifaru Scout pack...for "emergency use". Considering the price (about $50 on sale), I have been pleasantly surprised at the quality of the Browning Shock'n'Awe "mini" hawk. It IS small:10 1/2" length, 2 3/4" blade (think belt axe with an attitude) and a little over a pound in weight. The epoxied cord wrap on the handle has got to go though...someday gonna get around to re-wrapping it with some camo 550. |
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I was just about to post this. Eastwing has some inexpensive ones that seem to mirror the SOG Fast-Hawk. I own a SOG and my first impression was the Eastwing was better made. About the same price. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Look at the Eastwing offerings. They have been making hammers and hatchets for a long damn time. Great quality. Eastwing has some inexpensive ones that seem to mirror the SOG Fast-Hawk. I own a SOG and my first impression was the Eastwing was better made. About the same price. Estwing |
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I think you really limit yourself with the tanged fantasy hawks. If you are not out slaying your foes every day you are better served with something a bit more utilitarian in nature.
I've gotten a lot of utility out of the Cold Steel Trailhawk.....But not in it's factory form. I shortened the handle by 5", sanded, then sealed with BLO. I friction fitted the handle and eliminated the set screw function and just shortened the screw to use to plug the hole. IMHO to leave it fixed takes away from it's potential utility in the field. I removed the funky black paint, contoured the socket edges, and rust blued the head. When I got it the way I wanted I warmed it up and coated it with BLO, let it dry, carded it with 0000 steel wool, warmed it up again and coated it with motor oil to cure-out. The BLO seals the pores you expose when you get shed of the paint. A old gunsmith trick. Here is a "how-to" thread. http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_10_18/674117_A_few_basic_steps_and_how_to_modify_or_rehab_a_Cold_Steel_Hawk__Trail_Hawk_.html |
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I have this one….why? beats me….zombie fantasy I guess http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j176/jerrybusse/RattleHawkZombie1_zps39b4c5cb.jpg View Quote "It better to have..." Who made that one? |
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The gg&g battle hawk looks like it'd be a good one. Anyone ever used it?
It's about $225 but discontinued by gg&g and out of stock everywhere I look. |
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Mine has came in handy quite a bit. http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o283/Archerofloaf/Mobile%20Uploads/NCM_0194_zpsezclipud.JPG View Quote This is what I have. Handy little bastage |
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I have this one….why? beats me….zombie fantasy I guess http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j176/jerrybusse/RattleHawkZombie1_zps39b4c5cb.jpg "It better to have..." Who made that one? Swamp Rat knife works,,, |
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I own a Winkler R&D with the maple tribal handles and it is badass!!
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I have a Shrike, Shrike 13, Jenny Wren, and this one from Daniel Winkler.
http://www.winklerknives.com/knives.asp?id=188 The rubber handles on the Winklers are sweet. |
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Ive got the RMJ Jenny Wren as my woods hawk, the Shrike S-13 as my work hawk, and a Cold steel trailhawk that stays in my truckbox but really isnt used
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Look at the Eastwing offerings. They have been making hammers and hatchets for a long damn time. Great quality. Eastwing has some inexpensive ones that seem to mirror the SOG Fast-Hawk. I own a SOG and my first impression was the Eastwing was better made. About the same price. Estwing They actually sell these at Academy. I just looked at one there the other day. Considering it for $45. |
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