Hey guys, if you saw my other thread then you know I was having some light strikes with my LAR Grizzly when using Survival Ops Match ammo.

I blamed it on the Grizzly - cleaned it all up - and ended up trading it away at a local shop.  I supplied a box of American Eagle with it - as it seemed to run that flawlessly.

So fast forward - and I got myself a sweet COBB BA50 in the EE.  I took it out today to sight it in for the first time - and surprise - more light strikes with my Survival Ops ammo.

I fired 8 rounds - 5 failed to go off on the first trigger pull


So this is what is going on -

Light strikes (but the dent looks good in the primer) - so it fails to go off.

It usually goes off on the second time around - some took 3 hits to detonate.

The bolt is closing quite hard - which surprises me, because the BA50 doesn't have a match chamber - so it should be eating just about anything.  

The chamber is nice and clean - no problems ejecting, no stuck bolt after the round goes off.


So what is going on?

Are the primers not seated well enough causing an issue with strikes and the closure of the bolt?

Give me your thoughts.


Thanks.



Also -

I have emailed Survival Ops - I emailed them in August about the problem - but didn't get much back other than "we'll check on it" (in reference to new/different primers, as I have used their ammo in the past without issue) - hopefully they will get back to me about a solution/exchange, etc.

Has anyone had issues with Survival Ops ammo lately?

Yeah, both rifles.  Never had my bolts run so hard...

Something has to be up.  Too bad really, I really like their ammo - and the first 150rds were great.  Just this batch is acting funny.

SurvivalOps says it is new Lake City brass.  Loaded to match grade specs, but less hot than military to save on the barrel.

It should be chambering easy.  

I'll check into it more today.

Thanks.

I called Bushmaster and got a new hammer spring on the way.  

Hopefully they are the same.  

Anyone know the differences between the COBB and Bushmaster BA50s?

I'm pretty sure it is used. New brass isn't as cheap. The prices are still the same as when I bought ammo from them over 2 years ago. What kind of headstamps are you seeing? Any colored sealant around the primer?

http://www.survivalops.com/product/50-caliber-steel-core-ball/

Check it out - This quote is right above the contact information -

"This is newly manufactured LC Brass."

I'm not seeing any colored sealant around the primer on this batch.  I will have to get back to you on headstamping - I'm not at home.

I can't seem to get a reply at all from SurvivalOps.  

Tried multiple emails, voicemail and even text.

He hasn't logged in here on ARFcom since like 2014.  (Gossett68)


Hopefully he's just on Vacation or something.

Still no word from Survival Ops - this is getting pretty frustrating.

I loved my first batch of their ammo and planned to buy more after this hiccup was taken care of...  this is a bummer.

So I might just chalk this up as a loss...  a $370 loss...  But a loss none the less.

Where else can I buy .50 ammo at a decent price?  I can't get any type of reply from SurvivalOps.

Welp.  I give up.  SurvivalOps can suck a nut.  

No replies - they don't care - or they are gone.

He has a link to ARFcom as his one big review...  Too bad I couldn't put my two cents in that old thread.

I roll my own but id look for match the same as any other. Look on ammoseek or any good ammo search rngine and keep an eye out for good deals. Sorry for the bad ammo ya got. Buy a puller and break it down for reloading later. May just need a new primer or they may have cut the primer pocket to deep. Either way you have good bullets and powder just double check the brass and primers and your not gonna be at such a loss on it

I haven't yet.

Bushmaster is going to fit my BCG with their new firing pin system - it is a much lighter design that gets much more speed when it comes to striking primers - see if that gives it enough punch to send these down range.  If that doesn't work, I'll be looking to do something for sure.

I am having the same problem.  Around 1/3 of my rounds fail to go off on the first strike. All of them go off on the second strike. I am certain it is because the primers aren't seated.

Having any luck with contacting them?

I just exchanged Emails with him - Thanks for the help.

Just did some checking- primer seating depth varied- most were around .009" to .010".  But there was a goodly number between .003" and .005".

I wonder what went wrong with Survival OPs - the first 150rds I got from them was perfect.

Too bad really.

I am not bashing- just relating.  I have heard nothing but good things about this company, and the ammo is very accurate.  I may try contacting in the near future. Stuff like this just happens.

Understood.

If you do try to contact them - Good luck.  

I've tried multiple times - emails, calls, messages, texts, etc.

I've gone from a hopeful and repeat customer to completely ignored and disregarded.