 Den40 
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Posted: 6/15/2012 9:27:08 PM
THE IMAGE ABOVE IS A PAID ADVERTISEMENT I have 150 rounds that are stamped LC and SL I believe. The date of the brass is 40's and 50's. Should I sell to someone who reloads? I'm hesitant on shooting this on my M99. What is this thing worth? 
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Posted: 6/15/2012 11:08:11 PM
It's really good brass. I have shot hundreds and hundreds of rds of it.
What have you been hear bad about it? |
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Posted: 6/15/2012 11:22:09 PM
I have 300 rounds I am working through in my AR-50. I wouldn't expect great accuracy but it has all shot fine so far. Already reloaded some of the brass and it does great...!
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Posted: 6/15/2012 11:25:24 PM
Originally Posted By Tommy2399:
It's really good brass. I have shot hundreds and hundreds of rds of it. What have you been hear bad about it? I heard that Tallon ammo could be way too hot or way underpowered. I may be wrong, and that's why I am asking here. The brass seems in good shape. I'm wondering if reloading these would be the way to go or shoot it as is. |
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Posted: 6/15/2012 11:40:19 PM
Originally Posted By Den40:
Originally Posted By Tommy2399:
It's really good brass. I have shot hundreds and hundreds of rds of it. What have you been hear bad about it? I heard that Tallon ammo could be way too hot or way underpowered. I may be wrong, and that's why I am asking here. The brass seems in good shape. I'm wondering if reloading these would be the way to go or shoot it as is. I have shot pieces from both of my 150 round cans. I haven't noticed anything unusual. Shot to point of aim for me. I have heard the same things though. |
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50_Shooter
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Posted: 6/15/2012 11:42:54 PM
The biggest issue Talon had was that they had a batch of ammo get out that had the shoulders bumped back to far. They replaced it for anyone that had it, doubt that yours is in that batch. I would shoot it up and use the brass to start all over again.
If you get blown or flattened primers, or light primer strikes when you shoot it, theres a chance that you got part of that lot. My guess is that your stuff is good to go, if you don't trust it you can send it to me and I'll try it out. If it's all good I'll send back the brass.  |
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Posted: 6/16/2012 12:34:03 AM
Originally Posted By 50_Shooter:
The biggest issue Talon had was that they had a batch of ammo get out that had the shoulders bumped back to far. They replaced it for anyone that had it, doubt that yours is in that batch. I would shoot it up and use the brass to start all over again.
If you get blown or flattened primers, or light primer strikes when you shoot it, theres a chance that you got part of that lot. My guess is that your stuff is good to go, if you don't trust it you can send it to me and I'll try it out. If it's all good I'll send back the brass. LOL! Thanks for the offer! Thanks to all replies, I guess this was not too bad of a purchase for $100. I did notice a strong smell coming from the ammo. It is like an oily smell if that makes any sense. |
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Posted: 6/16/2012 9:04:46 PM
Oily?
I have had power go bad and it gave off a chlorine smell or bleach smell. I shot a few shells I had reloaded with the powder prior to it going bad. I still had them loaded a year later when the powder went bad. Opened the bottle and a brown fumes came out. And had that bad smell. Shot one round and it was a wee bit hot. Second round scared me and the last 4 I took back home and pulled the bullet. Sure enough the powder was sticking together. I wont use the brass any more due to the blue greasy stuff still inside of the case. This could have weakened the case. If you have a means, pull one of the bullets off of the case. If the powder is clumpy and you can see blue stuff. I suggest you dump it. But if the powder pours and the grains are not sticking together. Then by all means have a blast shooting the ammo. |
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Posted: 6/17/2012 12:29:25 AM
Originally Posted By Max-Paul:
Oily? I have had power go bad and it gave off a chlorine smell or bleach smell. I shot a few shells I had reloaded with the powder prior to it going bad. I still had them loaded a year later when the powder went bad. Opened the bottle and a brown fumes came out. And had that bad smell. Shot one round and it was a wee bit hot. Second round scared me and the last 4 I took back home and pulled the bullet. Sure enough the powder was sticking together. I wont use the brass any more due to the blue greasy stuff still inside of the case. This could have weakened the case. If you have a means, pull one of the bullets off of the case. If the powder is clumpy and you can see blue stuff. I suggest you dump it. But if the powder pours and the grains are not sticking together. Then by all means have a blast shooting the ammo. It is almost like a kerosene smell. I don't know if it is where the ammo can was being stored and it got some smell trapped inside. The powder seemed to move around the case when I lightly shook a few of the rounds. I'll have to find someone around me that can pull some of the rounds. I don't have the means to. Thanks for the tip about the blue stains on the case! |
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Posted: 6/17/2012 3:48:22 PM
I dont know nothing about any oily smell. But sounds like you can hear the powder shaking around. I would say then the same as the others. Go and have a good time. Cause what you are telling me then is that nothing I mentioned is true for you. I can tell you this. If your powder ever goes bad in a bottle / jug. You will know now what you will see and smell. It was like a brown rusty fog rise out of the jug. And I got a whif of it and about burnt my nose like taking a deep whif off of a bleach bottle. Now if you have ammo in a ammo can. I heard one guy at the nationals opened his can and a fog came out. I cant remember if his ammo was badly tarnished or not. Maybe one of those guys at the nationals remember this event and can chime in. But again, it sounds like your GTG.. Have fun and report back your results..
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Posted: 6/21/2012 3:48:29 PM
Originally Posted By Den40:
Originally Posted By 50_Shooter:
The biggest issue Talon had was that they had a batch of ammo get out that had the shoulders bumped back to far. They replaced it for anyone that had it, doubt that yours is in that batch. I would shoot it up and use the brass to start all over again.
If you get blown or flattened primers, or light primer strikes when you shoot it, theres a chance that you got part of that lot. My guess is that your stuff is good to go, if you don't trust it you can send it to me and I'll try it out. If it's all good I'll send back the brass. LOL! Thanks for the offer! Thanks to all replies, I guess this was not too bad of a purchase for $100. I did notice a strong smell coming from the ammo. It is like an oily smell if that makes any sense. Ok, as 50_shooter said, a lot of the Talon had the shoulder set back too far. I had some of that. It shot fine but wouldn't extract. I just used a cleaning rod to push out the fired case. I sent it back for replacement, but still have a few rounds. As far as i'm concerned, reloading the too short brass is a no go, but it shot fine. As far as the smell, I have a LOT of .50's in ammo can, and almost all of it has that smell. Theres a differecne between a chemical smell(normal) and bad powder smell (stinks), but I'm willing to bet this is just normal outgassing from the powder. Shoot a few, and see what happens. I'm willing to bet it will shoot fine. |
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Posted: 6/22/2012 9:32:03 AM
Thank you very much Max-Paul and texashark! I'll shoot some rounds next time I get a chance to take my rifle to the range.
The smell is more like a chemical smell. |
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Posted: 6/22/2012 11:43:01 AM
Some years ago, a friend bought a can of the ammo where the shoulder was set back too far. They wouldn't fire in his AR-50. My M82A1 sent them all down range with no misfires or chambering issues.
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Posted: 6/22/2012 10:10:51 PM
ah chemical smell. Now as noted that is a good thing. You have to remember how smokeless powder is made and shaped into balls, flakes or cylinders. Part of the process is to make a paste. This involves in the use of a solvent, such as ether. BTW this is used in making your tooth filling. Make friends with someone that reloads and ask him to let you sniff one of his powders in the bottle. P.S. dont make a habit of it
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Posted: 6/23/2012 1:00:12 PM
I agree with above posts, it should be fine I would shoot it, the smell you are talking about sounds like the normal degassing smell. I have ammo cans full of ammo and when I open them I occasionaly get a similar smell. It's just normal.
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Posted: 6/30/2012 4:04:59 PM
My cans of Talon ammo have a strong smell of amonia.
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Posted: 6/30/2012 5:40:38 PM
[Last Edit: 6/30/2012 5:42:43 PM by hdhogman]
Originally Posted By 17L2:
My cans of Talon ammo have a strong smell of ammonia. That sounds like bad powder; Had a 5 # jug of surplus powder 'go bad', Un-Godly ammonia type smell. Was wet and clumpy. A member here posted here several years ago about powder I am referring to, his actually exploded-caught fire, IIRC. As others have posted, give the rounds a 'shake' test, or pull a bullet and examine powder. |
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Posted: 6/30/2012 7:48:07 PM
Originally Posted By hdhogman:
Originally Posted By 17L2:
My cans of Talon ammo have a strong smell of ammonia. That sounds like bad powder; Had a 5 # jug of surplus powder 'go bad', Un-Godly ammonia type smell. Was wet and clumpy. A member here posted here several years ago about powder I am referring to, his actually exploded-caught fire, IIRC. As others have posted, give the rounds a 'shake' test, or pull a bullet and examine powder. Thanks, I'll give them a shake. If the powder shakes and is not clumpy or solid, can I assume it's ok regardless of the amonia smell ? |
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Posted: 6/30/2012 10:59:18 PM
Originally Posted By 17L2:
Originally Posted By hdhogman:
Originally Posted By 17L2:
My cans of Talon ammo have a strong smell of ammonia. That sounds like bad powder; Had a 5 # jug of surplus powder 'go bad', Un-Godly ammonia type smell. Was wet and clumpy. A member here posted here several years ago about powder I am referring to, his actually exploded-caught fire, IIRC. As others have posted, give the rounds a 'shake' test, or pull a bullet and examine powder. Thanks, I'll give them a shake. If the powder shakes and is not clumpy or solid, can I assume it's ok regardless of the amonia smell ? Just give it a shake, it should be fine. If need be pull a round and check it, i did that with some czech 308 that i had bought 2000 rds of, and it was clumpy. I promptly took it back to the shop i bought it from and was given my money back.(they were cool, as i spend plenty there ) I have had no problems with Talon ammo in the past, and i still have at least 1000 or so rds of it and would have no issues running it through my Barrett 82a1. The brass you have is some of the best stuff you can get also. A lot of my Talon is the same brass. |
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