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Posted: 7/9/2012 6:27:03 PM
I placed an order with Survivalops on the 29th, No response to email for tracking info and no one answers the phone.
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Posted: 7/9/2012 8:28:13 PM
Originally Posted By Fullbore:
I placed an order with Survivalops on the 29th, No response to email for tracking info and no one answers the phone. They don't normally email you a tracking number (based off my order with them). But if you email or call them, they'll eventually send it. 
Just relax and before you know it you'll have ammo at your door. 
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Posted: 7/9/2012 9:09:41 PM
I actually just got off the phone with them, Charles returned my call and said my order shipped out and should be here soon
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Posted: 7/10/2012 7:43:55 PM
[Last Edit: 7/11/2012 9:10:18 PM by Fullbore]
Still no tracking.
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Posted: 7/11/2012 5:47:50 AM
Originally Posted By Fullbore:
Lip service only...No Package and still No tracking. One more company to add to the "Avoid" list!  I normally don't like to do this. But this particular customer ordered on the 27th, the website says 1-3 days shipping on ammo and if it's longer I usually notify the customer it may take a few extra days. Ever shell we send out is hand expected to the fullest, and most brass that people would use...We toss...So this does take time. First, there was the 4th of july, that slowed down the shipping....Not to mention I could not get a hold of my shipper for his tracking number because he was with his family for the holiday. I then sent him a e-mail saying it would show up either Monday or Tuesday ( Not taking account the holidays, I forgot...My bad ). So I get a phone message from him saying I am trying to rip him off and he's filing a chargeback...I try to call back...No reply. I call Scott, get the tracking information ( Your gonna love this ) SHIPPED ON JULY 3 TRACKING NUMBER 1Z104AW00345415560 It's being delivered Tomorrow....I'm sorry...But I can't control the days UPS and FED-EX close down for the holidays...I just can't do it. So he sends me a e-mail saying he's already made the chargeback...So now I am out the cost of the ammo, shipping and the fee's that come with a chargeback. The customer did not even offer me a chance to give him a refund ( Which anyone in this business knows that chargebacks add additional fee's. I try to sell this .50 as cheap as possible, I am looking at volume, not being greedy here...So the chargeback fee's really hurt ) So the customer is upset at ME for UPS getting his ammo to him a day late. And the very last e-mail I sent him I told him to keep some of the ammo ( At this point he can keep it all, I don't want to be associated with this kind of negative energy ) I just want this customer to go out and play with the rounds and have a smile on his face playing with his .50. I can carbon copy all the e-mails and post them up if he tries to deny any of this. I don't appreciate being slandered for such a trivial issue over a day late on shipping. I don't feel I was unreasonable at all. The only thing I told the customer when gave him a ETA was the ammo would probably show up Monday/Tuesday....And it's going to make it there Today....Wednsday. I'm sorry, I can;t control the holidays.... He was even threatening to post about it on ARF.com hours before I got settled in and got his tracking number. ???? I don't get it...I wish I did. |
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Posted: 7/11/2012 6:13:20 AM
[Last Edit: 7/28/2012 7:34:08 PM by sniper1target]
guess i'm gonna get my ammo from you...
Excellent CS |
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Posted: 7/11/2012 10:40:36 AM
There's that all ellusive tracking# I've been looking for! I should have been a dentist! Thanks, Charles.
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Posted: 7/11/2012 9:07:18 PM
Ammo received today and looks very nice! I hope to do some shooting very soon.
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Posted: 7/11/2012 10:58:57 PM
How many rounds did you get and what type? I'd like a range report!
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carguym14
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Posted: 7/12/2012 9:34:17 PM
Originally Posted By Fullbore:
Ammo received today and looks very nice! I hope to do some shooting very soon. I hope you are going to make things right with him. |
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Posted: 7/13/2012 3:45:55 PM
[Last Edit: 7/13/2012 3:50:56 PM by Fullbore]
Originally Posted By carguym14:
Originally Posted By Fullbore:
Ammo received today and looks very nice! I hope to do some shooting very soon. I hope you are going to make things right with him. Yes, Absolutely. We spoke and cleared up everything. Charles had a very legitimate explanation and he was unable to reach his shipper. I plan to purchase again and hopefully get to the range today after work if the rain holds off! |
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Posted: 7/13/2012 3:47:29 PM
Originally Posted By JohnC76:
How many rounds did you get and what type? I'd like a range report! 40 rounds of API. I'll let you know... |
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Posted: 7/13/2012 3:56:07 PM
Just FYI the Survivalops site is getting an overhaul with improvements. It looks like they are taking CS seriously and want to compete in the market.
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Posted: 7/13/2012 10:24:22 PM
[Last Edit: 7/28/2012 7:13:38 PM by Fullbore]
I only had a few minutes before the rain started but I was able to get of 10 rounds at 300 yards. Accuracy was acceptable, similar to PMC and XM33 but I was unable to set up the Chrony. I did have a problem with one round that did not want to chamber and go fully into battery. After several attempts, I noticed there was a tiny burr on the case head making a tiny protrusion by the primer. I'm not sure if this would matter but the round looks good otherwise.
Edit: I was able to remove the burr with my nail. I recently discovered that the case length was about 1-2mm too long. Four rounds were affected and will be replaced by Survivalops. |
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Posted: 7/13/2012 10:47:21 PM
Originally Posted By Fullbore:
I only had a few minutes before the rain started but I was able to get of 10 rounds at 300 yards. Accuracy was acceptable, similar to PMC and XM33 but I was unable to set up the Chrony. I did have a problem with one round that did not want to chamber and go fully into battery. After several attempts, I noticed there was a tiny burr on the case head making a tiny protrusion by the primer. I'm not sure if this would matter but the round looks good otherwise. Can you measure the shot-group or get a picture of it? 
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Posted: 7/13/2012 10:57:05 PM
 The group was 6 to 7 inches. |
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Posted: 7/20/2012 10:02:36 AM
Originally Posted By Fullbore:
I only had a few minutes before the rain started but I was able to get of 10 rounds at 300 yards. Accuracy was acceptable, similar to PMC and XM33 but I was unable to set up the Chrony. I did have a problem with one round that did not want to chamber and go fully into battery. After several attempts, I noticed there was a tiny burr on the case head making a tiny protrusion by the primer. I'm not sure if this would matter but the round looks good otherwise. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v692/poohbear385/100_6552.jpg Edit: I was able to remove the burr with my nail. I would like to say that our quality control is 99.9% on our ammo, we are IMMACULATE on inspection. But sometimes during the resising process things get missed. I can replace that round if you would like, free of charge. Shoot me a e-mail: Support@survivalops.com Btw...Revamping the site. Should be up and running soon! Thanks guys! Charles. |
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Posted: 7/25/2012 2:55:18 PM
Looks like the site is stil under maintenance and shipping went up as well...$40 for 40rnds, Ouch!
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Posted: 7/28/2012 7:09:36 PM
I spoke with Charles earlier this week and he is replacing 4 rounds that were out of spec(about 1mm too long in the case). I also was advised the the rounds are "match" in the sense that they will fit a match chamber. My accuracy with the API is an average of about 4MOA or about 12" at 300yds.
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Posted: 7/31/2012 6:25:55 AM
Originally Posted By Fullbore:
I spoke with Charles earlier this week and he is replacing 4 rounds that were out of spec(about 1mm too long in the case). I also was advised the the rounds are "match" in the sense that they will fit a match chamber. My accuracy with the API is an average of about 4MOA or about 12" at 300yds. What kind of 50cal are you shooting this out of and what is your setup, i.e., bipod, rest, etc? |
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Posted: 7/31/2012 8:08:59 PM
Obviously this is from a bench, shooting 300yds. It's a bolt action 30" barrel, with 16x Super Sniper scope.
Originally Posted By JohnC76:
Originally Posted By Fullbore:
I spoke with Charles earlier this week and he is replacing 4 rounds that were out of spec(about 1mm too long in the case). I also was advised the the rounds are "match" in the sense that they will fit a match chamber. My accuracy with the API is an average of about 4MOA or about 12" at 300yds. What kind of 50cal are you shooting this out of and what is your setup, i.e., bipod, rest, etc? |
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Posted: 7/31/2012 8:15:45 PM
My point is a "match" round should be able to provide 1 moa as long as I do my part. 3 to 4 moa is a substantial difference.
Originally Posted By JohnC76:
Originally Posted By Fullbore:
I spoke with Charles earlier this week and he is replacing 4 rounds that were out of spec(about 1mm too long in the case). I also was advised the the rounds are "match" in the sense that they will fit a match chamber. My accuracy with the API is an average of about 4MOA or about 12" at 300yds. What kind of 50cal are you shooting this out of and what is your setup, i.e., bipod, rest, etc? |
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Posted: 7/31/2012 8:38:06 PM
What set-up are you using and what kind of accuracy have you seen?
Originally Posted By JohnC76:
Thanks for this post! It beats the best price I seen on another site, so I ordered 150rds of API from him! |
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Posted: 8/1/2012 8:33:32 AM
[Last Edit: 8/1/2012 8:34:38 AM by OldmanFCSA]
Typically a Standard chamber has a 0.562 neck ID.
Typically a Match chamber has a 0.554 neck ID. Typically a LC case has a neck wall thickness of 0.022" to 0.025" Thus, 0.022 + 0.022 + 0.510 = 0.554 which is too tight for a match chamber - you need at minimum 0.002" clearance. Thus, 0.025 + 0.025 + 0.510 = 0.560 which is correct fit for a Standard "mil-spec" chamber. I have found some ammo with neck thicknesses at 0.019 and very little variation. Loaded round OD is 0.548" which is still loose in any match chamber. I use solid brass bore-riders with projectile centered in throat of chamber, supporting case on centerline, which I work to hold as close as 0.002" max runout of loaded round. I am now using it as my Match brass in my State Arms rifle. It requires no neck turning and is consistent in wall thickness all the way down to base. I did have to ream the flash hole from 2mm out to 0.140" using my K&M flash hole uniformer and chamfers hole too. Primer pocket uniforming required minimal reaming. I was surprised as it was French brass. I do anneal every firing to add life to the cases. My loadings have varied from 235 grains of VV20N29 to 250 grains of Reloder50 under a 800 grain Lehigh brass solid. 5-shot groups from under 5 inches to 72" with two shots off target, with normal groups in 11-14" range. My accuracy is limited due to medical reasons, BUT I HAVE FUN. FCSA Matches are always shot at 1000 yards. |
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Posted: 8/1/2012 8:39:35 PM
What did you order?
Originally Posted By sniper1target:
guess i'm gonna get my ammo from you... Excellent CS |
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