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Posted: 2/6/2016 5:28:17 PM EDT
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It's really cool, but damn. At 8-10k there are a lot of real machine guns you can buy. Now, if we could buy new full auto ones, I'd gladly pay 10k.
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Posted: 2/8/2016 5:58:15 PM EDT
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A 249 sold at auction in October for a little over 40K so less than 10K sounds reasonable considering what comes with the collector package and the fact that it's a real FN and not some kit made out of demilled parts and HK trigger groups. As far as machine guns in that price range, maybe some MAC's, S&W 76 copies.
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Posted: 2/9/2016 3:50:13 AM EDT
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This is why it pays to buy a factory built beltfed.
Saw this thread over on HKpro. What a waste of $$$.  http://www.hkpro.com/forum/hk-clone-talk/215419-bpp23ek-2-5-year-range-report.html |
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Posted: 2/9/2016 4:14:47 AM EDT
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And just like that I won't be getting one. If I were going to spend that kind of money it would be on a car. Quote HistoryQuoted:
And just like that I won't be getting one. If I were going to spend that kind of money it would be on a car. You can buy a real MG for $7500. Just sayin. |
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Posted: 2/9/2016 9:59:21 AM EDT
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This is why it pays to buy a factory built beltfed. Saw this thread over on HKpro. What a waste of $$$.
http://www.hkpro.com/forum/hk-clone-talk/215419-bpp23ek-2-5-year-range-report.html I briefly had a 249 SAW built off a kit that used HK trigger group. the thing never ran. At all. It was a huge waste of time and those guns simply don't work. I want the real deal, factory M249S. |
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Posted: 2/12/2016 7:32:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I briefly had a 249 SAW built off a kit that used HK trigger group. the thing never ran. At all. It was a huge waste of time and those guns simply don't work. I want the real deal, factory M249S. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: This is why it pays to buy a factory built beltfed. Saw this thread over on HKpro. What a waste of $$$. http://www.hkpro.com/forum/hk-clone-talk/215419-bpp23ek-2-5-year-range-report.html I briefly had a 249 SAW built off a kit that used HK trigger group. the thing never ran. At all. It was a huge waste of time and those guns simply don't work. I want the real deal, factory M249S. Was it an MGA or custom build? I've heard nothing but good things about MGA guns and they use the HK trigger packs. They currently are offering their semi auto M249's right now. M249 Multi-caliber $7850 http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=542258181 M249, MK46, MK48 $11,850 http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=542258872 |
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Posted: 2/13/2016 12:37:01 AM EDT
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No one on this site bought one yet?
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Posted: 2/13/2016 1:26:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No one on this site bought one yet? Probably not too many bought yet since the collector series is the only one's available right now which are going for over $10k+. Once the non-collectors are released into the wild we will probably see more people here with them since they are way cheaper at around $7k or so. Current bidding on a Collector series. Most have been closing for over $11k. That's a chunk of change. http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=541350189 |
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Posted: 2/15/2016 9:11:18 AM EDT
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No one on this site bought one yet? Ordered, but not in hand yet. |
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Posted: 2/15/2016 10:45:09 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Ordered, but not in hand yet. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: No one on this site bought one yet? Ordered, but not in hand yet. Standard series? Also can I ask what was your final total @$7200? |
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Posted: 3/1/2016 11:22:47 PM EDT
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Anyone know what case they're using for the M249s? Wondering how I'd even manage to haul that to the range if I dropped the coin.
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Posted: 3/5/2016 2:42:02 PM EDT
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You can buy a real MG for $7500. Just sayin. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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And just like that I won't be getting one. If I were going to spend that kind of money it would be on a car. You can buy a real MG for $7500. Just sayin. You can't buy a real "BELT FED" MG for $7,500 anywhere. "Just sayin." 
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Posted: 3/6/2016 12:52:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You can't buy a real "BELT FED" MG for $7,500 anywhere. "Just sayin." Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: And just like that I won't be getting one. If I were going to spend that kind of money it would be on a car. You can buy a real MG for $7500. Just sayin. You can't buy a real "BELT FED" MG for $7,500 anywhere. "Just sayin." I think the cheapest entry level beltfed is a 1919 which starts @$13k or so. I haven't see any for sale lately though seems everyone is holding onto them right now. Would be great if they made a dedicated bump stock for the M249's. |
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Posted: 3/6/2016 1:15:29 PM EDT
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I came across a video of the M249s.
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Posted: 3/7/2016 10:52:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryCool, no doubt. But i honestly dont see the point. That has never swayed me from buying gun stuff in the past, but this one has me puzzled. |
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Posted: 3/8/2016 2:38:35 AM EDT
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Cool, no doubt. But i honestly dont see the point. That has never swayed me from buying gun stuff in the past, but this one has me puzzled. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Cool, no doubt. But i honestly dont see the point. That has never swayed me from buying gun stuff in the past, but this one has me puzzled. If they were $750, everyone would buy one. @ $7500, you can get a pretty decent used car that's a lot more useful. |
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Posted: 3/8/2016 9:19:13 AM EDT
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You can't buy a real "BELT FED" MG for $7,500 anywhere. "Just sayin." Quote HistoryQuoted:
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And just like that I won't be getting one. If I were going to spend that kind of money it would be on a car. You can buy a real MG for $7500. Just sayin. You can't buy a real "BELT FED" MG for $7,500 anywhere. "Just sayin." Just get your SOT. |
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Posted: 3/8/2016 5:04:51 PM EDT
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My local FFL has #146 for $10,500
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Posted: 3/8/2016 5:38:48 PM EDT
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Just get your SOT. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: You can't buy a real "BELT FED" MG for $7,500 anywhere. "Just sayin." Just get your SOT. Figure ITAR fees into that, and see where it gets you. 
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Posted: 3/10/2016 1:26:21 AM EDT
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Look at all the M249's.
 http://www.gunbroker.com/All/BI.aspx?Keywords=m249s Just talked to another dealer who has standards on order and said they should start expecting them in @2 weeks. His price on them I wont say but its pretty damn high (hint close to a collector series  ). I hope dealers don't start jacking the prices up on the standards. |
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Posted: 3/10/2016 2:19:27 AM EDT
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Figure ITAR fees into that, and see where it gets you. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Quoted: You can't buy a real "BELT FED" MG for $7,500 anywhere. "Just sayin." Just get your SOT. Figure ITAR fees into that, and see where it gets you. Don't import/export. Problem solved. |
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Posted: 3/10/2016 10:45:35 AM EDT
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Don't import/export. Problem solved. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Quoted: You can't buy a real "BELT FED" MG for $7,500 anywhere. "Just sayin." Just get your SOT. Figure ITAR fees into that, and see where it gets you. Don't import/export. Problem solved. I think you still have to regardless. |
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Posted: 3/10/2016 11:55:19 AM EDT
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You really should get one its a great CYA and I have seen guys get into issues and while they beat the rap they didn't beat the ride and it was an expensive ride.
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Posted: 3/11/2016 1:13:15 AM EDT
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Damn... I was talking myself into one at $7000ish. But $10,000!? C'mon man...
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Posted: 3/12/2016 6:05:57 PM EDT
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Damn... I was talking myself into one at $7000ish. But $10,000!? C'mon man... Same here. I think the price will come down once they are out for a little while. That's a lot of cash a dealer has to tie up in one item when the sales start to slow down. |
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Posted: 3/16/2016 12:13:56 PM EDT
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I dunno, whether its $7k or $10k, that is a big chunk of almost any machine gun. And pretty much the entire purchase price of an M11/9 tricked out with Lage goodies.
Take out a novice or experienced shooter and give them a choice to shoot between the two, they would run 30 rounds through the M249 say its nice and then spend the rest of the outing shooting the M11/9. When I have my M11/9 and SBRs out, the M11/9 gets 90% of the attention. I doubt it would be much different with a semi auto belt fed. Now if the M249 was around $4500, I might be interested. |
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Posted: 3/16/2016 3:13:18 PM EDT
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Someone needs to install the new Slide Fire SSAR stock on one of these M249's. They make M249 AR stock adapters for them, would be a pretty simple installation. Would be fun with long belts.
http://www.slidefire.com/products/ar-platform  |
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Posted: 3/17/2016 1:11:31 PM EDT
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What's up with the sights on those?
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Posted: 3/19/2016 2:46:47 PM EDT
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My M249S is on the way. Arrives Tuesday.
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Posted: 3/19/2016 2:53:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: My M249S is on the way. Arrives Tuesday. |
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Posted: 3/20/2016 4:29:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: My M249S is on the way. Arrives Tuesday. Nice. Pictures when it arrives!! |
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Posted: 3/27/2016 3:34:49 PM EDT
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With Fostech Echo and Franklin Armory BFS the question naturally arises - how similar is M249 and/or M240 fire control group to AR-15 control group? I understand that it's not a drop-in conversion, but are they "very different" or "not very different"?
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Posted: 3/30/2016 9:08:22 AM EDT
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I dunno, whether its $7k or $10k, that is a big chunk of almost any machine gun. And pretty much the entire purchase price of an M11/9 tricked out with Lage goodies. Take out a novice or experienced shooter and give them a choice to shoot between the two, they would run 30 rounds through the M249 say its nice and then spend the rest of the outing shooting the M11/9. When I have my M11/9 and SBRs out, the M11/9 gets 90% of the attention. I doubt it would be much different with a semi auto belt fed. Now if the M249 was around $4500, I might be interested. by that logic we should all only shoot cobra ca380 pistols nothing else since they cost only around 90$ |
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Posted: 4/12/2016 7:02:58 AM EDT
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just found out that Astra Arms is making a semiauto Minimi for the european market
price should be 4k Euro and will only take nato mags.. ammo links wont work.. http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2016/03/08/new-from-iwa-astra-5-56-saw-semi-auto-rifle/ |
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Posted: 4/15/2016 9:57:09 AM EDT
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Jerry Miculek plays with his FN M249s.
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Posted: 4/16/2016 2:45:28 PM EDT
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Geez I thought he was shooting a F/A version for a few seconds there.
Not to stray too far off topic....but since we're talking semi auto belt feds anyways, which would you rather have... FN M249S or an Ohio Ordnance M240-SLR One is a factory produced civilian belt fed and the other is an equally bad arse belt fed in 7.62, but may not have that "collector's" value the FN would carry. |
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Posted: 4/16/2016 3:18:58 PM EDT
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M249s. Its cheaper to feed, lighter/smaller, cheaper and like you said, made by FN
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Posted: 4/17/2016 7:33:33 PM EDT
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M249s. Its cheaper to feed, lighter/smaller, cheaper and like you said, made by FN Yeah all your points are right on...but out of the blue I've been intrigued by the M240B. Out of curiosity I sent an inquiry into OOW asking if they would consider engineering a binary trigger for their M240B. Chances they would I'm sure are < 10%, but who knows considering they all ready re-engineered most of the internals on it. Someone dropping that much coin on a semi belt-fed would maybe feel a little better about it if at least they could double the ROF with it.  I would think that would make deciding between an OOW M240B and FN M249S a little harder anyway.
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Posted: 4/18/2016 4:42:55 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/22/2016 9:03:20 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/27/2016 6:12:01 PM EDT
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Anyone have any updates on when the standard M249S will hit stores? I'm assuming FN is giving dealers time to clear out their collector's edition inventory, but I'm anxious to see where the street prices will settle on these once the non-limited editions are released.
EDIT: Just as I post this I see the first standard M249S go up for sale...woohoo! |
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Posted: 5/3/2016 12:29:13 PM EDT
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Geez I thought he was shooting a F/A version for a few seconds there. Not to stray too far off topic....but since we're talking semi auto belt feds anyways, which would you rather have... FN M249S or an Ohio Ordnance M240-SLR One is a factory produced civilian belt fed and the other is an equally bad arse belt fed in 7.62, but may not have that "collector's" value the FN would carry. Both!! |
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Posted: 5/4/2016 10:53:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
Geez I thought he was shooting a F/A version for a few seconds there. Not to stray too far off topic....but since we're talking semi auto belt feds anyways, which would you rather have... FN M249S or an Ohio Ordnance M240-SLR One is a factory produced civilian belt fed and the other is an equally bad arse belt fed in 7.62, but may not have that "collector's" value the FN would carry. Factory produced FN |
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Posted: 5/5/2016 9:01:10 PM EDT
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My M249s is at my LGS now.
Have to wait till Monday to pick up. Work rest of the week and they're closed on Sunday. Waited this long so WTH. |
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Posted: 5/7/2016 10:32:42 AM EDT
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Come back with many photos and a range report!!
Psst... a video unboxing/review would get you a ton of views.
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Posted: 5/7/2016 10:35:50 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Come back with many photos and a range report!! Psst... a video unboxing/review would get you a ton of views. |
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Posted: 5/9/2016 1:44:06 AM EDT
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Anyone have any updates on when the standard M249S will hit stores? I'm assuming FN is giving dealers time to clear out their collector's edition inventory, but I'm anxious to see where the street prices will settle on these once the non-limited editions are released. EDIT: Just as I post this I see the first standard M249S go up for sale...woohoo! My lgs said they have shipping notice on the first one they ordered. I have to head down there for some other things, hoping to get to see it. Just a standard model, and his price is under $7500. There is a couple of dealers with them online for close to $7200? $7300. |
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Posted: 5/9/2016 10:41:47 PM EDT
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Well a standard model showed up at my LGS today. Already sold. But it is coming through distribution.
Link to photos |
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Posted: 5/10/2016 8:34:07 AM EDT
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GreenTop near Richmond, VA has two in stock, both collector's editions according to the FN Sales rep. They've had them about two weeks now, and they are on GreenTop's Facebook page.
But when I asked GreenTop what they had and what they were asking, they said "It is one of the latest run that FN has released" which to me means they are standard editions. They are priced at $9500, which makes me think the sales staff there either has a collector's edition and is wrong about that, or has the standard edition and is wrong about the market's pricing, |
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Posted: 5/10/2016 9:40:16 PM EDT
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I have photos and a unboxing video and can't get them posted.
Anyone able to receive them via text and post them for me? |
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