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[#5]
Ill get one for my cqb 16 but the 17 will stay with the Vltor Improved scar stock.
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[#6]
Other than the obvious that it'll fold, why is it better than the Vltor stock adapter?
Also, are you sure that we cant see more of the stock with the model? |
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[#7]
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Other than the obvious that it'll fold, why is it better than the Vltor stock adapter? Also, are you sure that we cant see more of the stock with the model? View Quote For me the KDG stock is lighter, shorter and more rigid than the Vltor I replaced it with. I also get a more comfortable cheek weld and the system just "feels" less bulky and more solid. Plus it looks better and we know how important that is. No more epics of the model but I can get one of the guys in the armory to pose topless if you would like |
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For me the KDG stock is lighter, shorter and more rigid than the Vltor I replaced it with. I also get a more comfortable cheek weld and the system just "feels" less bulky and more solid. Plus it looks better and we know how important that is. No more epics of the model but I can get one of the guys in the armory to pose topless if you would like View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Other than the obvious that it'll fold, why is it better than the Vltor stock adapter? Also, are you sure that we cant see more of the stock with the model? For me the KDG stock is lighter, shorter and more rigid than the Vltor I replaced it with. I also get a more comfortable cheek weld and the system just "feels" less bulky and more solid. Plus it looks better and we know how important that is. No more epics of the model but I can get one of the guys in the armory to pose topless if you would like This needs to happen, like yesterday! |
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Other than the obvious that it'll fold, why is it better than the Vltor stock adapter? Also, are you sure that we cant see more of the stock with the model? For me the KDG stock is lighter, shorter and more rigid than the Vltor I replaced it with. I also get a more comfortable cheek weld and the system just "feels" less bulky and more solid. Plus it looks better and we know how important that is. No more epics of the model but I can get one of the guys in the armory to pose topless if you would like This needs to happen, like yesterday! Done! The owner agreed to do a topless photo shoot with the ACR stock kit just for you weirdos |
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[#12]
Still looking like the middle of this month for the black kits?
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[#14]
Man, I like that look a lot!! It looks a lot nicer than the factory stock and a million times better than the Vltor stock. For $300, I'm not sure I will upgrade to it, but I do think they look pretty slick. The only issue I have with my factory stock is it's a little sticky to slide it and the button to fold it has to be depressed really deep.
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More an option in a relatively small aftermarket for the Scar rifles. In no way is this stock a downgrade. Better? maybe, maybe not . I'm glad we are not stuck with just a select few stocks in the AR world! View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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A solution in search of a problem IMHO More an option in a relatively small aftermarket for the Scar rifles. In no way is this stock a downgrade. Better? maybe, maybe not . I'm glad we are not stuck with just a select few stocks in the AR world! How do you know this?? I have no interest in changing stocks and I do like the fact someone is bringing more parts out for our SCARs but was the ACR stock put through the rigors of DoD testing that the FN stock was put through and passed? |
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[#18]
whats the difference with this stock vs stock?
they look the same |
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[#20]
Anybody have feedback yet?
We shipped a bunch out this week with more going out today. Surely someone has theirs by now. I know what we think about them just wondering what others have to say. |
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[#23]
I'm hoping you guys ship mine today, really stoked to get ahold of it.
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I received my stock today, first impressions with out shooting with it installed are good. It slid easily on to my receiver and opened and closes with ease. I did use the provided set screw to eliminate the little bit of play the stock had against the adapter. I do feel as though the ACR stock is an improvement over the FN design but I can't fault anyone for not wanting to spend $300 to do it.
I also want to Thank Modern Outfitters for the SWAG they included and the good CS in general, I'll be ordering an MREX from you guys soon. |
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I received my stock today, first impressions with out shooting with it installed are good. It slid easily on to my receiver and opened and closes with ease. I did use the provided set screw to eliminate the little bit of play the stock had against the adapter. I do feel as though the ACR stock is an improvement over the FN design but I can't fault anyone for not wanting to spend $300 to do it. I also want to Thank Modern Outfitters for the SWAG they included and the good CS in general, I'll be ordering an MREX from you guys soon. View Quote Somebody in shipping gave away SWAG for free? We will deal with that severely this morning.... |
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[#29]
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Am I missing something? The $299 price seems a little high? View Quote Yup, you ARE missing something. It's called R&D, production, and profit margin. When the stock itself from Bushmaster is $160 plus shipping, then you spend a couple thousand dollars modeling and getting the dimensions right for this piece (it's not easy to duplicate the hinge angles), then you have to spend $70-80 each (minimum) to make them in good, quality material and anodize them, pay your employees, use your money to inventory enough to fulfill orders, you're at $250 just for your expenses alone. $199 will never, ever happen. How do I know? I'm the guy who made the ACR to HK UMP stock adapter and is currently developing it for the FN-FAL para market (the original para stock sucks). There's a thread on here over in the FAL section on it. I found this thread because we were going to do this exact same thing for the SCAR - at a 10% higher price point than he is at and not mess with selling the stock with it so people can get one piece at a time - it's just not worth my time to mess with it for less $$. A guy on the FN forum let me know this product had just come out, so we'll refocus on another platform. From a designer's standpoint, the comb sits too low on this iteration to be useful for a good cheek weld for any optics other than a red dot (An EoTech XPS would work well with this). I run ACOG's on all my heavier rifles so I would have to have a higher cheek weld. However, in looking at the pictures more closely, it appears that a higher mount to bring the axis up would definitely interfere with the ejection port on this particular rifle when the stock is folded (although who ever shoots like that except in an emergency?) Nice job on the adapter, good aesthetic lines. I run ACR's on 3 different platforms, fantastic stock! |
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[#30]
For those still waiting on FDE Stock Kits (Back Orders) from us they will begin shipping tomorrow. Just an FYI.
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Has anyone weighted their stock? Do you get the advertised 4oz reduction under the FN stock?
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Quoted: Has anyone weighted their stock? Do you get the advertised 4oz reduction under the FN stock? View Quote I weighted the FDE stock. The weight difference compared to the OEM stock was only 1.375oz instead of the advertised 4oz. Also, when shooting at the range, the adjustable cheek comb dropped back into neutral position from raised position while firing. Seems like standard use cheek pressure / recoil is enough to drop it back down. That's more of a deal breaker for me, I need the cheek rise to get proper sight through the optics. Anyway, the lack of noticeable weight reduction and the weak cheek comb lock did not justify $300, for me. |
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Anyone got anymore pics of the FDE installed? The member pics posted earlier are too small to see anything.
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[#34]
I was sold on this for my 17 until I installed my PRS. Still might mess with one for my 16 at some point though.
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Anyone else have an issue with the comb going back to neutral/not being high enough in the first place? I'd really love to get one when I get my 17, but I won't if it hinders my shooting through an optic.
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Anyone else have an issue with the comb going back to neutral/not being high enough in the first place? I'd really love to get one when I get my 17, but I won't if it hinders my shooting through an optic. View Quote Got mine today. Comb is high enough for me to use with my VCOG and locks into place solid. |
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I concur with Mr. Lee Majors on this as I am the guy who made the ACR stock adapter for the Robarms XCR. Anyone who has attempted this type of project would agree with us completely. The only way to do this type of project at a cost that most people would like to pay, without complaining, is to have them injection molded, but then, the market couldn't support the quantities needed to justify the cost of the molds...even if they were made in China!!
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Yup, you ARE missing something. It's called R&D, production, and profit margin. When the stock itself from Bushmaster is $160 plus shipping, then you spend a couple thousand dollars modeling and getting the dimensions right for this piece (it's not easy to duplicate the hinge angles), then you have to spend $70-80 each (minimum) to make them in good, quality material and anodize them, pay your employees, use your money to inventory enough to fulfill orders, you're at $250 just for your expenses alone. $199 will never, ever happen. How do I know? I'm the guy who made the ACR to HK UMP stock adapter and is currently developing it for the FN-FAL para market (the original para stock sucks). There's a thread on here over in the FAL section on it. I found this thread because we were going to do this exact same thing for the SCAR - at a 10% higher price point than he is at and not mess with selling the stock with it so people can get one piece at a time - it's just not worth my time to mess with it for less $$. A guy on the FN forum let me know this product had just come out, so we'll refocus on another platform. From a designer's standpoint, the comb sits too low on this iteration to be useful for a good cheek weld for any optics other than a red dot (An EoTech XPS would work well with this). I run ACOG's on all my heavier rifles so I would have to have a higher cheek weld. However, in looking at the pictures more closely, it appears that a higher mount to bring the axis up would definitely interfere with the ejection port on this particular rifle when the stock is folded (although who ever shoots like that except in an emergency?) Nice job on the adapter, good aesthetic lines. I run ACR's on 3 different platforms, fantastic stock! View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Am I missing something? The $299 price seems a little high? Yup, you ARE missing something. It's called R&D, production, and profit margin. When the stock itself from Bushmaster is $160 plus shipping, then you spend a couple thousand dollars modeling and getting the dimensions right for this piece (it's not easy to duplicate the hinge angles), then you have to spend $70-80 each (minimum) to make them in good, quality material and anodize them, pay your employees, use your money to inventory enough to fulfill orders, you're at $250 just for your expenses alone. $199 will never, ever happen. How do I know? I'm the guy who made the ACR to HK UMP stock adapter and is currently developing it for the FN-FAL para market (the original para stock sucks). There's a thread on here over in the FAL section on it. I found this thread because we were going to do this exact same thing for the SCAR - at a 10% higher price point than he is at and not mess with selling the stock with it so people can get one piece at a time - it's just not worth my time to mess with it for less $$. A guy on the FN forum let me know this product had just come out, so we'll refocus on another platform. From a designer's standpoint, the comb sits too low on this iteration to be useful for a good cheek weld for any optics other than a red dot (An EoTech XPS would work well with this). I run ACOG's on all my heavier rifles so I would have to have a higher cheek weld. However, in looking at the pictures more closely, it appears that a higher mount to bring the axis up would definitely interfere with the ejection port on this particular rifle when the stock is folded (although who ever shoots like that except in an emergency?) Nice job on the adapter, good aesthetic lines. I run ACR's on 3 different platforms, fantastic stock! |
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