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Posted: 5/27/2012 12:30:50 PM

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Does anyone else have one of these on their SCAR? I've been using mine for nearly a year and noticed that the aluminum latch tends to take off some of the material from the plastic hinge. I switched back to the factory plastic latch and it works much better, and no longer feels like it is removing material from the hinge.
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Posted: 5/27/2012 3:34:09 PM
Had one of these and switched back to original plastic part.
My reasoning was that the metal latch was more apt todamage the plastic catch and possibly cause premature failure.
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Posted: 5/27/2012 4:56:57 PM
Originally Posted By Michael64:
Had one of these and switched back to original plastic part.
My reasoning was that the metal latch was more apt todamage the plastic catch and possibly cause premature failure.


Actually, the original part is made with glass reinforced polymer, which makes it fairly abrasive. The aluminum part is both stronger than the original part and less abrasive, I've ditched the TD charging handle, but the latch is staying.
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Posted: 5/27/2012 7:07:41 PM
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Originally Posted By Strongbow:
Originally Posted By Michael64:
Had one of these and switched back to original plastic part.
My reasoning was that the metal latch was more apt todamage the plastic catch and possibly cause premature failure.


Actually, the original part is made with glass reinforced polymer, which makes it fairly abrasive. The aluminum part is both stronger than the original part and less abrasive, I've ditched the TD charging handle, but the latch is staying.

Well, I'm not sure. The original polymer latch feels a lot smoother on the catch. It doesn't seem to wear down the catch either. I did have to push down the TD latch a lot more than the plastic, and I always had a slightly more difficult time folding/extending the stock with the TD latch. It works smoother with the factory latch.

With the TD aluminum latch, I could see FDE plastic shavings caught in the TD latch and observe some wear on the catch. With the TD latch, the weak link seems to be the factory catch with the thin-walled plastic.
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Posted: 5/28/2012 11:47:37 AM
Originally Posted By metroplex:

Originally Posted By Strongbow:
Originally Posted By Michael64:
Had one of these and switched back to original plastic part.
My reasoning was that the metal latch was more apt todamage the plastic catch and possibly cause premature failure.


Actually, the original part is made with glass reinforced polymer, which makes it fairly abrasive. The aluminum part is both stronger than the original part and less abrasive, I've ditched the TD charging handle, but the latch is staying.

Well, I'm not sure. The original polymer latch feels a lot smoother on the catch. It doesn't seem to wear down the catch either. I did have to push down the TD latch a lot more than the plastic, and I always had a slightly more difficult time folding/extending the stock with the TD latch. It works smoother with the factory latch.

With the TD aluminum latch, I could see FDE plastic shavings caught in the TD latch and observe some wear on the catch. With the TD latch, the weak link seems to be the factory catch with the thin-walled plastic.


Suit yourself... mine works great, and no plastic shavings. FWIW, TD did say they increased the engagement surface of the latch to spread out the force more. I prefer the TD latch and will stick to it.
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Posted: 5/31/2012 10:18:13 PM
Swapped this out ASAP.
I figured if my heroes were breaking the latches on their 17's, then that was my fatigue test data.
Swap was easy, minimal time and energy and imho, is 100% better: releases easier, engages more directly and feels better on my thumb, too!

Will include new pics with Geissele trigger mod, FN Rail and other fictional goodies in the next few days (If trigger is delivered)!

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Posted: 6/1/2012 5:49:40 AM
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That's what I thought first, but the factory plastic latch seems much easier/smoother to use. I like TD's products and am using their BG-17 and SCAR panels, but their latch seems to be cause more wear on the catch.
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Posted: 7/2/2012 7:38:29 AM
I've been using the factory plastic latch at the range and like it a lot more than the Tangodown.
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Posted: 7/2/2012 11:44:05 PM
Metal and plastic.........
Common sense would say that the metal will wear down the plastic. Kinda reminds me with Glock and the metal mags or metal mag catch and "polymer" mags.

Your stick, your money.
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Posted: 7/9/2012 10:19:48 PM
Here Is the GG&G Piece in my 16S, replacing my Tango Down unit which I felt cost too much and was also too short for my tastes:


I found that the GG&G unit worked best for me (either side of the barrel), using either hand to 'pull back' or also when using an 'under-barrel slap charge technique.'
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GG&G's design is longer (giving me better leverage), a better angle for my skill set (faster regardless of which side it is placed); it just feels better to me. I think the length and angle take less force to charge due to a better moment-arm design. These are my thoughts after using the two other designs first (FN's OEM handle or the Tango Down handle).

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Here is Pic 3:


I just installed my Geisele Super Scar trigger in the SCAR16 tonight. Installation was a breeze and took about 20 minutes including my relubing and wiping down.

The Geissele is, simply put, SWEET. This trigger is just as smooth as the G trigger in my OBR and it is very much smoother and lighter than OEM. ! can't wait to shoot it tomorrow!

Hope this info helps somebody. Have a great day.
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Posted: 7/17/2012 11:29:41 AM
Originally Posted By DOE:
Metal and plastic.........
Common sense would say that the metal will wear down the plastic. Kinda reminds me with Glock and the metal mags or metal mag catch and "polymer" mags.

Your stick, your money.


Common sense doesn't always pan out in engineering.. The stock plastic is glass reinforced and actually pretty abrasive.... more abrasive than the aluminum.
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Posted: 7/17/2012 4:08:58 PM
Oh. You mean to tell me the stock on a SCAR has a latch? Actually, I have found over the years that none of my folding stocks ever get folded all that much other then the novelty of it or making mo' room in the safe.
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Posted: 7/17/2012 4:09:30 PM

Originally Posted By Strongbow:
Originally Posted By DOE:
Metal and plastic.........
Common sense would say that the metal will wear down the plastic. Kinda reminds me with Glock and the metal mags or metal mag catch and "polymer" mags.

Your stick, your money.


Common sense doesn't always pan out in engineering.. The stock plastic is glass reinforced and actually pretty abrasive.... more abrasive than the aluminum.

But the aluminum is harder than the plastic latch, that's what is wearing down the hinge holes. The FN plastic latch feels smoother and doesn't chew up the hinge at least on my SCAR 16S.
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Posted: 7/18/2012 3:05:33 PM
Originally Posted By metroplex:

Originally Posted By Strongbow:
Originally Posted By DOE:
Metal and plastic.........
Common sense would say that the metal will wear down the plastic. Kinda reminds me with Glock and the metal mags or metal mag catch and "polymer" mags.

Your stick, your money.


Common sense doesn't always pan out in engineering.. The stock plastic is glass reinforced and actually pretty abrasive.... more abrasive than the aluminum.

But the aluminum is harder than the plastic latch, that's what is wearing down the hinge holes. The FN plastic latch feels smoother and doesn't chew up the hinge at least on my SCAR 16S.


Welp, your choice. Cheers.Mine is showing no wear yet.