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Posted: 2/6/2012 10:42:05 AM EDT
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Hello all, I am new to the forum so I don't know if this is the right place to post or not. I am doing an M249 SAR, a project I have been looking to do for some time but have just now found the $ and time. I will post pictures during the process for those who are interested and since I never just make one of anything in my shop I will most likely have extra parts and may be able to help out others who are doing a similar build. Ya, I know...what's the point of a semi-auto belt fed! Nothing, it is just for fun and to say I could build one. Plus it looks cool on display and reminds me of my days back in the Corps when I had to lug the SOB around. If anyone has any tips or tricks from their build that they would like to share, by all means post them up. My parts kit is inbound as well has my blueprints so I will post when they get here. I think they will be paper copies so I will put them into Autocad for easy changes. Budget for the project is $6K
Side note: I thought it might be interesting to keep a running total of the cost to date: $5656.00 FN Blueprints and factory weld specs- Reciever Channel and Gas Tube Suport shipped- $172.00 Complete parts kit, used condition shipped- $3026.00 (Not as complete as I thought, but odd part will re-sell) Trunion, 3 rail set and rear bridge- $754.00 (Rear bridge was a flat not bent so that goes into the re-sell pile too) Bridge, Pintle mount, Trigger mount and a bag of pins, springs and screws $375.00 New Bi-pod (other one was for an M240 which I hope to resell for $200+) $130.00 Trade in FA operating group for upgraded SA operating group $250.00 Another batch of small parts $200.00 Sale of extra parts -$400.00 Heat treatment trunnion-$45.00 Additonal Top Cover for parts, some will re-sell $348.00 Replacement Rail, Trigger Pack and Bushing $502.00 Picatiny Rail stock $25.00 Norrels Moly Resin Finish $29.00 Sale of extra parts $100 2nd Barrel $300 Another new Bi-pod $200 Sale of more extra parts $200 |
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Looking foroward to your pictures.
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Needs a slidefire type stock.
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Loving the idea! Keep us posted with pics and developements.
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Originally Posted By shade_1313:
Tag, this is relevant to my interests. This. |
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Any Pics?
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I'm looking for a railed top cover. Do you have a supplier for these?
Great project BTW!! I love the 249. 101 |
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I see a few from time to time on Gunbroker in used condition, but US Machinegun Armory will have them at retail $620.00 I think. I just bought the rest of my receiver parts from them, they are great folks.
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Thats going to be one cool SBR.
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Awesome. I'd love to have a SAW. Good luck on the project.
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This shall be tagged.
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Will you be going with striker or hammer fired?
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Most likely hammer fired. USMGA has a proven design and the parts not any more expensive than regular FA parts. The weld-up will start after I finish machining the channel. I have to study my prints a little more as I will be leaving out alot of cuts need for the M249 MG and only using what I need for the design.
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I am impressed by your skill and determination on this, definitely will be following this thread!
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You are awesome.
Seriously, what a cool project, best of luck. |
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This is looking great
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Please, call me Joe
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Have you SBRd it yet or are you going to get a long barrel for it? I love this project, please keep the updates coming.
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I'm going to blind pin then spot weld the flash supressor on to get 16 1/4" from the current barrel. I may register it later as a SBR but I hate to pay another $200 tax when there is such an easy work around. Plus all my other Class 3 paperwork took forever and a day to come back. It would look cool with my 5.56 supressor attached too. But that's a while down the road.
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suscribed to this, i love seeing builds like this.
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Great job! Just finishing up the same project. If I can help you with the semi parts, feel free to PM me.
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awesome cant wait to see more progress on this.
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Originally Posted By billphoto:
Great job! Just finishing up the same project. If I can help you with the semi parts, feel free to PM me. Where are your pics! |
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Email sent. Thanks for taking the time to look at the list.
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Dont know how to tag... but i will bookmark!
Keep up the good work! |
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That baby needs the KAC Accesory Rail and the railed top cover, so you can slap a good red dot to complete the look.
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I have that railed fore grip, but now railed top cover. I may just add the rail myself if I can find some good stock material to work with.
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This is gonna be sick, I look forward to watching your progress!
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Did you decide on leaving off the magazine well? I'm very impressed, please keep us updated, such a cool project.
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Sweet! It's evolving!
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This is so full of win!
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Yes, I decided to leave off the magazine well. I was told, by someone who builds them for a living, that it is more trouble than it is worth. Plus that's a few less parts I need to buy.
I don't know if this will be helpful or not...but here is a list of things I have learned so far on this build. 1-Get a complete set of prints and the TM for the weapon before you start. The prints are in Metric. The TM has a complete parts list by group and part #'s are very important. 2-Buy the most complete parts set get you can get, even if it cost a little more up front it will save you time and money trying to track down all those little springs, parts and peices. 3-Buy your channel, trunion, bridge and rails as a set from one person if you can. All channels are not cut or bent to FN spec's and may need to be modified to fit. 4-If you do buy the channel seperate, get one that is a complete as possible, machining all the holes and cutouts is hard if you don't have the right equipment. 5-If you are doing a SAR, US Machinegun Armory has all the SA parts for a well tested, functional, closed-bolt, hammer fired system. Lots of support from them during this build. 6-Some parts need to be heat treated after machining. Your local machine shop may offer this service. 7-If your not going to register your weapon as a SBR, have the flash suppressor permanetly attached to the barrel by a professional gunsmith to ATF requirments. 8-Measure twice, cut once and don't rush. I buggered up a perfectly good charging handle rail by not measuring properly before I started cutting. |
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Exiting build. Good luck with all!
I really enjoy my semi-auto conversions: 1910 Maxim / MG42 / BAR / M60E4 / Bren Mk1 / SG43 / Madsen and soon a Breda. |
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It's true, the magazine port really isn't worth the hassle. Looking good, this thread makes me miss my SAW.
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Ill give you $39 to make me one. Pleeeeaaase?
Nice work so far! |
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Originally Posted By masakari:
Ill give you $39 to make me one. Pleeeeaaase? Nice work so far! I would like to know the actual projected cost of this. (And I'll give you $40 for it) |
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My first post has an updated cost for the project to date. I can't account for the hours spent online looking for parts, that's the fun part, but I have less than 4 hours of actual machine shop time into it so far. The weld up and fitting will be a few more so I figure a total of 8 hours of shop time at $50 per hour witll be around $400 I would pay myself. Even adding that into my current total and cost of final finishing I should come in at $6,000 Considering they retail for 15K for SA I think that will work just fine for me. I looked at the shrike upper for about the same as I am doing this build and decided it would be more fun to have clone MG. Side note, if anyone needs their channel finished, shoot me a PM. I have all the prints and machining fixtures now and would be happy to help out.
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Well the parts are off for heat treatment, then I am on stand-by till my trigger group gets in. I will post more later. May be a week or two.
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Amazing work.
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Originally Posted By squirrelslayer1:
Amazing work. Indeed. Very nice! |
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I wonder if it will bump fire when completed, and if a slidefire stock could be used...
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