 ChickenDaddy
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Posted: 12/27/2010 7:21:04 PM
[Last Edit: 12/27/2010 7:21:28 PM by ChickenDaddy]
THE IMAGE ABOVE IS A PAID ADVERTISEMENT I already have the green "tactical" model (paid $1960 OTD when they were first released), and thought I'd go a little different and get the funky optic one...and I know I'm going to shoot it, so am thinking.... Only comes with a daylight 1.6x optic; polymer rail; no BUIS.... Looks to have a better front sling loop, though. Since I'm gonna shoot it, and not just collect it, maybe I should have gotten the tactical in black, as it comes with BUIS, and an aluminum rail? Is there any consolation for me out there? Did I do right in my choice? |
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KILLERB6
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Posted: 12/27/2010 7:47:02 PM
[Last Edit: 12/27/2010 8:42:01 PM by KILLERB6]
Only you can answer that: I have the tactical...but I was in too early to get any of the free scope/rebate offers.
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Friendly_Crusader
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Posted: 12/28/2010 1:14:34 AM
I bought two tacticals and never once thought about the STD, except maybe for cool factor because it's essentially the original.
Most foreign mil. Users get the standard and remove the standard optic, I don't know why they don't just get the tacticals. |
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Posted: 12/28/2010 8:04:47 AM
There is a back up sight molded into the Standard's cover. You can't shoot both guns at the same time anyway, maybe you will end up shooting one more than the other, but there is nothing wrong with having both.
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Posted: 12/28/2010 10:30:23 AM
I have the STD and somewhat regret it. Its cool and all. Its streamlined and so forth. But the reticle leaves something to be desired, and Id rather just have a red dot on it at this point.
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Posted: 12/28/2010 10:55:37 AM
Take off the standard optic and put on a red dot. The rail is supposed to be 1913.
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Posted: 12/28/2010 11:04:57 AM
You made a more cost effective choice. You have a second shooter and a complete set of spare parts for a lower price than if you purchased the tactical and an optic. Use the tactical with a red dot for home defense and the standard for the range.
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Posted: 12/29/2010 2:11:15 AM
Originally Posted By steve100:
You made a more cost effective choice. You have a second shooter and a complete set of spare parts for a lower price than if you purchased the tactical and an optic. Use the tactical with a red dot for home defense and the standard for the range. That's the pep talk I needed...good advice. I'm much more happy now with my decision to get something even a little more different than the tactical FS2000. |
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Posted: 12/29/2010 2:26:37 AM
Originally Posted By steve100:
You made a more cost effective choice. You have a second shooter and a complete set of spare parts for a lower price than if you purchased the tactical and an optic. Use the tactical with a red dot for home defense and the standard for the range. Good advice indeed 
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Posted: 12/29/2010 5:53:02 PM
Crap! HKspecialist lowered the price on these $10 today... hate when i buy something and then the price gets lowered.
I'm still happy, though. At least it wasn't lowered, like, $100. Sometimes I am such a typical cheap-butt gun owner.  |
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Posted: 12/31/2010 12:50:35 AM
I have both
The optic is really cheap. It feels like you are looking into a straw, the adjustments feel like a $25 scope you get at walmart. It has no clicks, the scope is held on by soft plast scope rings. If you were to only have one I would get the railed version, BUT if you are like me and like bullpups would get it, it still is better made than a keltec RFB by a mile |
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Posted: 12/31/2010 2:14:05 PM
Steve100 is right on the money both literally and figuratively. I would avoid removing the factory optic in favor of an aftermarket red dot or other optic because of the polymer rail. Especially if you're using a quick detach metal mount I can see the polymer over time being damaged since metal rubbing against polymer usually isn't the best idea for durability. |
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Posted: 12/31/2010 3:49:52 PM
Originally Posted By ronin556:
I have both The optic is really cheap. It feels like you are looking into a straw, the adjustments feel like a $25 scope you get at walmart. It has no clicks, the scope is held on by soft plast scope rings. If you were to only have one I would get the railed version, BUT if you are like me and like bullpups would get it, it still is better made than a keltec RFB by a mile So...is it as bad as the PS90 ring sight? Or the same as the MSAR factory optic? If it was as good as the pre-Sabre defense AUG factory optic, I will probably be happy with it. Yeah, i would not put on any clamp style mount if i do decide to change optics, just the hand tightened nut/knob job mounts. |
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Posted: 1/1/2011 11:09:30 PM
it is clear but I think the MSAR optic is higher quality.
If you go look at a 22 or airgun rifle scope at walmart they are about the quality of the FS2000 optic. The housing over the scope makes it even worse like I said before like looking into a straw. It is an effect of the housing not the scope the scope only feels cheap because of the cheap materials used for the rings and the adjusments feel cheap so would only recommend the FS2000 with scope for people like me who really like bullpups or want a FS2000 that looks like the original F2000 if looks don't matter or filling in your collection get the railed version. |
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Posted: 1/2/2011 1:06:35 AM
Thanks for the honest reply and going into greater detail.
When I did my archive search, most people seemed happy with the optic, so your comments needed some fleshing out. After your last post, I'm pretty sure I won't like the optic, unless the one on my MSAR was really bad. I'll be interested to see what it's like when I pick it up next week! |
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Posted: 1/2/2011 1:25:25 PM
It is helpful to categorize your firearm purchases: defense, range, or collectable with overlap between the categories. Reading this site gives one the feeling that every firearm one owns has to be outfitted with the most high tech tactical add ons for it to be a worthwhile purchase (like a Mr. Potato head when one was a kid). Realistically, one could use one or possible two rifles that are outfitted for defensive purposes. This includes a quality red dot, decent light, single point sling, and reliable magazines. A $300 railed fore-end, $90 vertical foregrip, or $400 magnifier are not needed for most civilians or LEO. The remainder of your rifles do not need these add-ons unless you enjoy accessorizing. Keep the optic model for the range and the tactical for defense. Spend your extra money on training classes or ammunition (unless you are still into the Mr. Potato head phase or want to accessorize as much as your wife or significant other).
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Posted: 1/2/2011 3:46:12 PM
Yep, this rifle is just for all the reasons stated: fill in the collection, spare parts, and fun. So I'll be fine no matter.
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