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Posted: 10/2/2016 5:28:46 PM EDT
[Last Edit: XMshooter10]
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Got the SCAR 16s with my enlistment bonus 7 years ago and finally SBRed. Completely changes the gun in my opinion. Had ADCO do the chop/thread.
The bottom photo is of my Issued SCAR MK17 with 556 conversion kit installed. 
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Posted: 10/2/2016 7:18:07 PM EDT
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Awesome rifle. I agree that getting mine shortened changed it completely. ADCO does great work. Enjoy it and thank you for your service.
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By XMshooter10:
Got the SCAR 16s with my enlistment bonus 7 years ago and finally SBRed. Completely changes the gun in my opinion. Had ADCO do the chop/thread. The bottom photo is of my Issued SCAR MK17 with 556 conversion kit installed. <a href="http://s1095.photobucket.com/user/StevenFBuis/media/14352588_10207563386578313_4502389382425682835_o.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1095.photobucket.com/albums/i479/StevenFBuis/14352588_10207563386578313_4502389382425682835_o.jpg</a> <a href="http://s1095.photobucket.com/user/StevenFBuis/media/14352244_10207563387138327_5698269807455228924_o.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1095.photobucket.com/albums/i479/StevenFBuis/14352244_10207563387138327_5698269807455228924_o.jpg</a> <a href="http://s1095.photobucket.com/user/StevenFBuis/media/14445973_10207563386178303_4208637476819019620_n.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1095.photobucket.com/albums/i479/StevenFBuis/14445973_10207563386178303_4208637476819019620_n.jpg</a> <a href="http://s1095.photobucket.com/user/StevenFBuis/media/14435413_10207577545292272_2637930208199552665_o.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1095.photobucket.com/albums/i479/StevenFBuis/14435413_10207577545292272_2637930208199552665_o.jpg</a> |
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Posted: 10/2/2016 8:21:54 PM EDT
[Last Edit: carmodyh]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By XMshooter10:
Got the SCAR 16s with my enlistment bonus 7 years ago and finally SBRed. Completely changes the gun in my opinion. Had ADCO do the chop/thread. The bottom photo is of my Issued SCAR MK17 with 556 conversion kit installed. <a href="http://s1095.photobucket.com/user/StevenFBuis/media/14352588_10207563386578313_4502389382425682835_o.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1095.photobucket.com/albums/i479/StevenFBuis/14352588_10207563386578313_4502389382425682835_o.jpg</a> <a href="http://s1095.photobucket.com/user/StevenFBuis/media/14352244_10207563387138327_5698269807455228924_o.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1095.photobucket.com/albums/i479/StevenFBuis/14352244_10207563387138327_5698269807455228924_o.jpg</a> <a href="http://s1095.photobucket.com/user/StevenFBuis/media/14445973_10207563386178303_4208637476819019620_n.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1095.photobucket.com/albums/i479/StevenFBuis/14445973_10207563386178303_4208637476819019620_n.jpg</a> <a href="http://s1095.photobucket.com/user/StevenFBuis/media/14435413_10207577545292272_2637930208199552665_o.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1095.photobucket.com/albums/i479/StevenFBuis/14435413_10207577545292272_2637930208199552665_o.jpg</a> agreed it changes the balance of the rifle completely. SBRed both my 16 and 17.... I saw a Ranger Regiment dude (Corporal) at Bagram during an Air Mission Brief with a MK16 (SCAR 16) wearing an AAC 18T mount, EoTech 553, and PEQ.... my guess was that it was an arms room relic, as every single other person rocked a Block II M4A1 with a select few brining MK17s and M110s along... perhaps that arms room relic was a converted MK17... Hell, maybe it was yours... 
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FL, USA
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Posted: 10/5/2016 6:31:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By carmodyh:
agreed it changes the balance of the rifle completely. SBRed both my 16 and 17.... I saw a Ranger Regiment dude (Corporal) at Bagram during an Air Mission Brief with a MK16 (SCAR 16) wearing an AAC 18T mount, EoTech 553, and PEQ.... my guess was that it was an arms room relic, as every single other person rocked a Block II M4A1 with a select few brining MK17s and M110s along... perhaps that arms room relic was a converted MK17... Hell, maybe it was yours...
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By carmodyh:
Originally Posted By XMshooter10:
Got the SCAR 16s with my enlistment bonus 7 years ago and finally SBRed. Completely changes the gun in my opinion. Had ADCO do the chop/thread. The bottom photo is of my Issued SCAR MK17 with 556 conversion kit installed. <a href="http://s1095.photobucket.com/user/StevenFBuis/media/14352588_10207563386578313_4502389382425682835_o.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1095.photobucket.com/albums/i479/StevenFBuis/14352588_10207563386578313_4502389382425682835_o.jpg</a> <a href="http://s1095.photobucket.com/user/StevenFBuis/media/14352244_10207563387138327_5698269807455228924_o.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1095.photobucket.com/albums/i479/StevenFBuis/14352244_10207563387138327_5698269807455228924_o.jpg</a> <a href="http://s1095.photobucket.com/user/StevenFBuis/media/14445973_10207563386178303_4208637476819019620_n.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1095.photobucket.com/albums/i479/StevenFBuis/14445973_10207563386178303_4208637476819019620_n.jpg</a> <a href="http://s1095.photobucket.com/user/StevenFBuis/media/14435413_10207577545292272_2637930208199552665_o.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1095.photobucket.com/albums/i479/StevenFBuis/14435413_10207577545292272_2637930208199552665_o.jpg</a> agreed it changes the balance of the rifle completely. SBRed both my 16 and 17.... I saw a Ranger Regiment dude (Corporal) at Bagram during an Air Mission Brief with a MK16 (SCAR 16) wearing an AAC 18T mount, EoTech 553, and PEQ.... my guess was that it was an arms room relic, as every single other person rocked a Block II M4A1 with a select few brining MK17s and M110s along... perhaps that arms room relic was a converted MK17... Hell, maybe it was yours...
In my experience, they were anything but relics. Used quite a bit actually (Mostly in the Heavy 13" barrel configuration). That being said we only had them in limited quantities so the the Block IIs were much more prevalent. I wasn't able to get my hands on a SCAR until the end of my deployment. Here's what I had most the time- 
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OK, USA
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Posted: 10/8/2016 6:28:17 PM EDT
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Finally tracked down a 17 for under $3K...
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Posted: 10/8/2016 6:55:50 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/14/2016 4:23:32 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/14/2016 4:26:05 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/15/2016 4:03:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By XMshooter10:
In my experience, they were anything but relics. Used quite a bit actually (Mostly in the Heavy 13" barrel configuration). That being said we only had them in limited quantities so the the Block IIs were much more prevalent. I wasn't able to get my hands on a SCAR until the end of my deployment. Here's what I had most the time- <a href="http://s1095.photobucket.com/user/StevenFBuis/media/8f573bc5-2a36-4667-9290-42b5ff903863.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1095.photobucket.com/albums/i479/StevenFBuis/8f573bc5-2a36-4667-9290-42b5ff903863.jpg</a> Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By XMshooter10:
Originally Posted By carmodyh:
Originally Posted By XMshooter10:
Got the SCAR 16s with my enlistment bonus 7 years ago and finally SBRed. Completely changes the gun in my opinion. Had ADCO do the chop/thread. The bottom photo is of my Issued SCAR MK17 with 556 conversion kit installed. <a href="http://s1095.photobucket.com/user/StevenFBuis/media/14352588_10207563386578313_4502389382425682835_o.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1095.photobucket.com/albums/i479/StevenFBuis/14352588_10207563386578313_4502389382425682835_o.jpg</a> <a href="http://s1095.photobucket.com/user/StevenFBuis/media/14352244_10207563387138327_5698269807455228924_o.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1095.photobucket.com/albums/i479/StevenFBuis/14352244_10207563387138327_5698269807455228924_o.jpg</a> <a href="http://s1095.photobucket.com/user/StevenFBuis/media/14445973_10207563386178303_4208637476819019620_n.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1095.photobucket.com/albums/i479/StevenFBuis/14445973_10207563386178303_4208637476819019620_n.jpg</a> <a href="http://s1095.photobucket.com/user/StevenFBuis/media/14435413_10207577545292272_2637930208199552665_o.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1095.photobucket.com/albums/i479/StevenFBuis/14435413_10207577545292272_2637930208199552665_o.jpg</a> agreed it changes the balance of the rifle completely. SBRed both my 16 and 17.... I saw a Ranger Regiment dude (Corporal) at Bagram during an Air Mission Brief with a MK16 (SCAR 16) wearing an AAC 18T mount, EoTech 553, and PEQ.... my guess was that it was an arms room relic, as every single other person rocked a Block II M4A1 with a select few brining MK17s and M110s along... perhaps that arms room relic was a converted MK17... Hell, maybe it was yours...
In my experience, they were anything but relics. Used quite a bit actually (Mostly in the Heavy 13" barrel configuration). That being said we only had them in limited quantities so the the Block IIs were much more prevalent. I wasn't able to get my hands on a SCAR until the end of my deployment. Here's what I had most the time- <a href="http://s1095.photobucket.com/user/StevenFBuis/media/8f573bc5-2a36-4667-9290-42b5ff903863.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1095.photobucket.com/albums/i479/StevenFBuis/8f573bc5-2a36-4667-9290-42b5ff903863.jpg</a> very cool... yeah, what I meant was the 5.56 versions, or what I understood to be a 5.56 version, not a converted 7.62, were relics. I saw lots of guys using the 13 inch Heavy configs with suppressors. The spooks pretty much all used SCARs in 5.56 and 7.62, but mostly 7.62. all the cool guy kit... thanks for sharing! |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 10/17/2016 9:12:48 PM EDT
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Finally got my barrel back 14.5" pinned. Going to be my new hunting rifle.
 20161014_081414-01 by T B, on Flickr
 20161014_081341-01-01 by T B, on Flickr
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Posted: 10/17/2016 9:29:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TannerB:
Finally got my barrel back 14.5" pinned. Going to be my new hunting rifle. <a href="https://flic.kr/p/MRP8xN" target="_blank">https://c1.staticflickr.com/6/5571/30099758520_79728fd77e_z.jpg</a>20161014_081414-01 by T B, on Flickr <a href="https://flic.kr/p/MmeQYP" target="_blank">https://c8.staticflickr.com/6/5477/29765085703_093d3b254c_z.jpg</a>20161014_081341-01-01 by T B, on Flickr damnit... leave it up to TannerB to make me regret SBRing my SCAR to 13 inches... really dig the look of it with the MREX at 14.5, keeping a little more in the velocity department, and keeping it a non-NFA gun when that matters for traveling... very nice... need to get off my butt and order the mrex rail. thanks for sharing! |
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Posted: 10/18/2016 7:38:45 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By carmodyh:
damnit... leave it up to TannerB to make me regret SBRing my SCAR to 13 inches... really dig the look of it with the MREX at 14.5, keeping a little more in the velocity department, and keeping it a non-NFA gun when that matters for traveling... very nice... need to get off my butt and order the mrex rail. thanks for sharing! Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By carmodyh:
Originally Posted By TannerB:
Finally got my barrel back 14.5" pinned. Going to be my new hunting rifle. <a href="https://flic.kr/p/MRP8xN" target="_blank">https://c1.staticflickr.com/6/5571/30099758520_79728fd77e_z.jpg</a>20161014_081414-01 by T B, on Flickr <a href="https://flic.kr/p/MmeQYP" target="_blank">https://c8.staticflickr.com/6/5477/29765085703_093d3b254c_z.jpg</a>20161014_081341-01-01 by T B, on Flickr damnit... leave it up to TannerB to make me regret SBRing my SCAR to 13 inches... really dig the look of it with the MREX at 14.5, keeping a little more in the velocity department, and keeping it a non-NFA gun when that matters for traveling... very nice... need to get off my butt and order the mrex rail. thanks for sharing! While I don't regret going the SBR route with mine, I do think the 14.5" barrel and MREX rail is a stellar option and Tanner's turned out excellent. Nicely done, as usual! Cheers |
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Posted: 10/18/2016 9:11:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By buddyhoohaw:
<a href="http://s5.photobucket.com/user/buddyhoohaw/media/FN%20SCAR/FullSizeRender217_zpsrpcwehpg.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y198/buddyhoohaw/FN%20SCAR/FullSizeRender217_zpsrpcwehpg.jpg</a> If i remember right, you used to have the branham rail... how do you like the new setup? |
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Posted: 10/18/2016 11:10:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By carterbrunelle:
If i remember right, you used to have the branham rail... how do you like the new setup? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By carterbrunelle:
Originally Posted By buddyhoohaw:
<a href="http://s5.photobucket.com/user/buddyhoohaw/media/FN%20SCAR/FullSizeRender217_zpsrpcwehpg.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y198/buddyhoohaw/FN%20SCAR/FullSizeRender217_zpsrpcwehpg.jpg</a> If i remember right, you used to have the branham rail... how do you like the new setup? You are correct, I did have the Branham rail installed for a while and there was nothing wrong with it other than it was a bit heavy and girthy for my liking. The PMM rail extension and side/bottom rails are basically a lighter and slimmer configuration and while I haven't had the chance to shoot, I like the way it feels dry firing. Cheers |
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Posted: 10/21/2016 8:09:22 AM EDT
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Posted: 10/21/2016 8:12:41 AM EDT
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PA, USA
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Posted: 10/21/2016 9:31:28 PM EDT
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MD, USA
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Posted: 10/22/2016 12:53:47 PM EDT
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USA
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Posted: 10/22/2016 5:19:34 PM EDT
[Last Edit: carterbrunelle]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By buddyhoohaw:
You are correct, I did have the Branham rail installed for a while and there was nothing wrong with it other than it was a bit heavy and girthy for my liking. The PMM rail extension and side/bottom rails are basically a lighter and slimmer configuration and while I haven't had the chance to shoot, I like the way it feels dry firing. Cheers Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By buddyhoohaw:
Originally Posted By carterbrunelle:
Originally Posted By buddyhoohaw:
<a href="http://s5.photobucket.com/user/buddyhoohaw/media/FN%20SCAR/FullSizeRender217_zpsrpcwehpg.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y198/buddyhoohaw/FN%20SCAR/FullSizeRender217_zpsrpcwehpg.jpg</a> If i remember right, you used to have the branham rail... how do you like the new setup? You are correct, I did have the Branham rail installed for a while and there was nothing wrong with it other than it was a bit heavy and girthy for my liking. The PMM rail extension and side/bottom rails are basically a lighter and slimmer configuration and while I haven't had the chance to shoot, I like the way it feels dry firing. Cheers Good to hear. I might give the PMM a shot then. I actually got the branham rail after being inspired by your rifle, but the weight is something else. |
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Posted: 10/22/2016 7:58:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By carterbrunelle:
Good to hear. I might give the PMM a shot then. I actually got the branham rail after being inspired by your rifle, but the weight is something else. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By carterbrunelle:
Originally Posted By buddyhoohaw:
Originally Posted By carterbrunelle:
Originally Posted By buddyhoohaw:
<a href="http://s5.photobucket.com/user/buddyhoohaw/media/FN%20SCAR/FullSizeRender217_zpsrpcwehpg.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y198/buddyhoohaw/FN%20SCAR/FullSizeRender217_zpsrpcwehpg.jpg</a> If i remember right, you used to have the branham rail... how do you like the new setup? You are correct, I did have the Branham rail installed for a while and there was nothing wrong with it other than it was a bit heavy and girthy for my liking. The PMM rail extension and side/bottom rails are basically a lighter and slimmer configuration and while I haven't had the chance to shoot, I like the way it feels dry firing. Cheers Good to hear. I might give the PMM a shot then. I actually got the branham rail after being inspired by your rifle, but the weight is something else. I have photo somewhere of the Branham rail on the postal scale but I can't find it. Regardless, the PMM is most definitely lighter. Cheers |
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Posted: 10/27/2016 12:08:36 AM EDT
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Posted: 10/27/2016 5:30:18 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By emtothedee:
Not sure which setup I want to stick with. I was shooting 6-700 yards at a 12" Gong no problem he other day with the Nightforce. Haven't zeroed the Elcan yet. Is 6-800 still going to be possible with the Elcan? <a href="http://s1246.photobucket.com/user/emtothedee/media/My%20Baby/FBD7F6B0-FC91-4806-9A01-65ACFAB9A926.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1246.photobucket.com/albums/gg607/emtothedee/My%20Baby/FBD7F6B0-FC91-4806-9A01-65ACFAB9A926.jpg</a> <a href="http://s1246.photobucket.com/user/emtothedee/media/My%20Baby/B82FAB82-D04E-4F04-926E-8D50C173E639.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1246.photobucket.com/albums/gg607/emtothedee/My%20Baby/B82FAB82-D04E-4F04-926E-8D50C173E639.jpg</a> That NF optic looks right at home on the first pic and I think i'd stick with it at 6-800 yds. Curious why you went with the black MREX rail over the FDE? Cheers |
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Posted: 10/27/2016 7:58:20 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By buddyhoohaw:
That NF optic looks right at home on the first pic and I think i'd stick with it at 6-800 yds. Curious why you went with the black MREX rail over the FDE? Cheers Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By buddyhoohaw:
Originally Posted By emtothedee:
Not sure which setup I want to stick with. I was shooting 6-700 yards at a 12" Gong no problem he other day with the Nightforce. Haven't zeroed the Elcan yet. Is 6-800 still going to be possible with the Elcan? <a href="http://s1246.photobucket.com/user/emtothedee/media/My%20Baby/FBD7F6B0-FC91-4806-9A01-65ACFAB9A926.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1246.photobucket.com/albums/gg607/emtothedee/My%20Baby/FBD7F6B0-FC91-4806-9A01-65ACFAB9A926.jpg</a> <a href="http://s1246.photobucket.com/user/emtothedee/media/My%20Baby/B82FAB82-D04E-4F04-926E-8D50C173E639.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1246.photobucket.com/albums/gg607/emtothedee/My%20Baby/B82FAB82-D04E-4F04-926E-8D50C173E639.jpg</a> That NF optic looks right at home on the first pic and I think i'd stick with it at 6-800 yds. Curious why you went with the black MREX rail over the FDE? Cheers The Elcan looks at home too! I bought the gun used and that what the gentlemen before me had out on it. I would prefer an fde one |
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Posted: 10/27/2016 10:16:31 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By emtothedee:
The Elcan looks at home too! I bought the gun used and that what the gentlemen before me had out on it. I would prefer an fde one Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By emtothedee:
Originally Posted By buddyhoohaw:
Originally Posted By emtothedee:
Not sure which setup I want to stick with. I was shooting 6-700 yards at a 12" Gong no problem he other day with the Nightforce. Haven't zeroed the Elcan yet. Is 6-800 still going to be possible with the Elcan? <a href="http://s1246.photobucket.com/user/emtothedee/media/My%20Baby/FBD7F6B0-FC91-4806-9A01-65ACFAB9A926.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1246.photobucket.com/albums/gg607/emtothedee/My%20Baby/FBD7F6B0-FC91-4806-9A01-65ACFAB9A926.jpg</a> <a href="http://s1246.photobucket.com/user/emtothedee/media/My%20Baby/B82FAB82-D04E-4F04-926E-8D50C173E639.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1246.photobucket.com/albums/gg607/emtothedee/My%20Baby/B82FAB82-D04E-4F04-926E-8D50C173E639.jpg</a> That NF optic looks right at home on the first pic and I think i'd stick with it at 6-800 yds. Curious why you went with the black MREX rail over the FDE? Cheers The Elcan looks at home too! I bought the gun used and that what the gentlemen before me had out on it. I would prefer an fde one So I rock an elcan 1-4 on my SCAR and have shot it with my Vortex PST 2.5-10 power scope as well and shot it out to 650 yards on IPSC steel targets with 147 grain ball and 168 grain FGMM and 168 grain reloads. Honestly, I use mine like a really expensive battle rifle mostly. Its certainly capable with match ammo, as ive shot 1 MOA groups with it and averaged 1.5 MOA on most days, but I put the Vortex on my 5.56 SPR build as I like shooting that better with that scope and kept the Elcan on the SCAR. Before I shot it a lot I liked the idea of having mil holder overs taped to the stock and memorized for known distances, however, I would forget or get them mixed up, so for fast shots at distance and just getting hits on steel, for a battle rifle, I feel like the Elcan 1-4 with the BDC is the way to go, but if you are more keen to do precision work and don't have another rifle or a bolt gun to do it with it, then perhaps leave the scope on. Oh, and those shots are with the 13 inch SBR barrel... that's why I like the ELCAN more I guess. And the BDC is still pretty much on at distance, although I hold maybe just a little high on the BDC holds |
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Posted: 10/27/2016 10:25:22 AM EDT
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also, i'll post the groups next time I go shoot my SCAR 16 SBR, but its pretty shoddy with both 55 grain M193 and 62 grain M855 but seems to do okay with 77 grain match (but so does everything else I shoot it out of)...
I put a Geissle trigger in it and shot it with and without the surefire can on it. Just throwing it out there to see what kind of groups you guys get. Was zeroing it at 50 meters and its like 3-4 inches with 5 shot groups. Not sure if im that crappy of a shot, but my MK18 Mod 0 clone with do 2 inches at 50 meters without trying too hard. Just curious. I know its a combat rifle but was surprised that it was doing worse than say... that new X95... 
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TX, USA
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Posted: 10/28/2016 5:11:28 PM EDT
[Last Edit: argolfer]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By buddyhoohaw:
<a href="http://s5.photobucket.com/user/buddyhoohaw/media/FN%20SCAR/FullSizeRender217_zpsrpcwehpg.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y198/buddyhoohaw/FN%20SCAR/FullSizeRender217_zpsrpcwehpg.jpg</a> That is just a freakin' awesome looking rifle! I'm waiting on the MREX for the 10.5" barrel to put on mine, but that looks like a sweet setup. I do love the MREX on my 13" 17 |
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Posted: 11/1/2016 8:19:30 AM EDT
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NSW:
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Posted: 11/1/2016 4:06:55 PM EDT
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NC, USA
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Posted: 11/2/2016 7:20:16 PM EDT
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New optics, crappy picture.
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Posted: 11/5/2016 12:19:27 AM EDT
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Bought some select fire SCAR-16's with 14 inch barrels for the department.
The officers and I liked them so well I bought one for me personally. Being here in California it took lots of approvals and paperwork, but I just got it Wednesday. It took two months of wait to get it. I added a Trijicon ACOG TA-31F with red chevron and a Steiner DBAL A3. I first fired strings of 10 rounds, followed by brush/patch in the barrel for a total of 100 rounds for barrel break in. 
From 102 yards (laser range finder) after warming up and sighting in the ACOG: 
And after really taking my time and focusing on breathing and sear reset from a benched rest... 
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Posted: 11/5/2016 5:44:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Taft:
Bought some select fire SCAR-16's with 14 inch barrels for the department. The officers and I liked them so well I bought one for me personally. Being here in California it took lots of approvals and paperwork, but I just got it Wednesday. It took two months of wait to get it. I added a Trijicon ACOG TA-31F with red chevron and a Steiner DBAL A3. I first fired strings of 10 rounds, followed by brush/patch in the barrel for a total of 100 rounds for barrel break in. http://i.imgur.com/rFkqMEi.jpg http://i.imgur.com/7bQl6GW.jpg http://i.imgur.com/Bo7eVHL.jpg From 102 yards (laser range finder) after warming up and sighting in the ACOG: http://i.imgur.com/W4Eyz9c.jpg And after really taking my time and focusing on breathing and sear reset from a benched rest... http://i.imgur.com/bx4BiIb.jpg very nice. I actually shot my suppressed scar 16 sbr against my mk18 mod 0 suppressed today. I mean, ive shot both before quite a bit, however, I think I just now appreciated the recoil impulse and soft shooting nature of the scar... That's some nice shooting at 100 yards. Are those duty ammo groups? what were you feeding it? and if you don't mind me asking, does your department have an issue load they prefer in 5.56? Thanks for sharing! |
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Posted: 11/5/2016 5:49:32 PM EDT
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Took the 17 SBR out today after getting my ELCAN back from Canada. Sent mine back after discovering the POI shift between 1x and 4x was like 3 feet at 50 meters... took about a month or so, but they replaced it with a brand new unit... I got a few extra gas port screws from Parker Mountain Machine and replaced the one he sent it back with and installed a smaller size... REALLY made a difference in recoil. Running the SCAR with the AAC SDN6, its a real pussy cat for a .308... rang steel out to 600 meters today, although the holds on the BDC are a little off using a 13 inch barrel and 147 NATO loads... just hold a little high at 500 meters and hold on the head at 600 meters for center mass-ish hits...
Probably my favorite .308 for the size, weight, and balance both suppressed and unsuppressed... 
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Posted: 11/5/2016 6:04:37 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/5/2016 7:31:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By carmodyh:
very nice. I actually shot my suppressed scar 16 sbr against my mk18 mod 0 suppressed today. I mean, ive shot both before quite a bit, however, I think I just now appreciated the recoil impulse and soft shooting nature of the scar... That's some nice shooting at 100 yards. Are those duty ammo groups? what were you feeding it? and if you don't mind me asking, does your department have an issue load they prefer in 5.56? Thanks for sharing! Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By carmodyh:
Originally Posted By Taft:
Bought some select fire SCAR-16's with 14 inch barrels for the department. The officers and I liked them so well I bought one for me personally. Being here in California it took lots of approvals and paperwork, but I just got it Wednesday. It took two months of wait to get it. I added a Trijicon ACOG TA-31F with red chevron and a Steiner DBAL A3. I first fired strings of 10 rounds, followed by brush/patch in the barrel for a total of 100 rounds for barrel break in. http://i.imgur.com/rFkqMEi.jpg http://i.imgur.com/7bQl6GW.jpg http://i.imgur.com/Bo7eVHL.jpg From 102 yards (laser range finder) after warming up and sighting in the ACOG: http://i.imgur.com/W4Eyz9c.jpg And after really taking my time and focusing on breathing and sear reset from a benched rest... http://i.imgur.com/bx4BiIb.jpg very nice. I actually shot my suppressed scar 16 sbr against my mk18 mod 0 suppressed today. I mean, ive shot both before quite a bit, however, I think I just now appreciated the recoil impulse and soft shooting nature of the scar... That's some nice shooting at 100 yards. Are those duty ammo groups? what were you feeding it? and if you don't mind me asking, does your department have an issue load they prefer in 5.56? Thanks for sharing! Issued ammo for the PD is Winchester Q3131 55 grain FMJ with a cannalure. That is what I shot the groups with. I figured a 62-64 grain bullet would have been better but that was not bad at all. The SCAR shot very well. I am a big AR15 guy but I really liked the SCAR. |
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Posted: 11/6/2016 11:28:55 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By carmodyh:
Took the 17 SBR out today after getting my ELCAN back from Canada. Sent mine back after discovering the POI shift between 1x and 4x was like 3 feet at 50 meters... took about a month or so, but they replaced it with a brand new unit... I got a few extra gas port screws from Parker Mountain Machine and replaced the one he sent it back with and installed a smaller size... REALLY made a difference in recoil. Running the SCAR with the AAC SDN6, its a real pussy cat for a .308... rang steel out to 600 meters today, although the holds on the BDC are a little off using a 13 inch barrel and 147 NATO loads... just hold a little high at 500 meters and hold on the head at 600 meters for center mass-ish hits... Probably my favorite .308 for the size, weight, and balance both suppressed and unsuppressed... <a href="http://s570.photobucket.com/user/hcarmody/media/IMG_5208.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i570.photobucket.com/albums/ss145/hcarmody/IMG_5208.jpg</a> <a href="http://s570.photobucket.com/user/hcarmody/media/IMG_5209.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i570.photobucket.com/albums/ss145/hcarmody/IMG_5209.jpg</a> Damn that's awesome. Do you think you could make hits out to 700 or even 800 with that setup? Still cant decide if I wanna sell my Elcan or keep it 
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Posted: 11/6/2016 11:32:13 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By carmodyh:
Took the 17 SBR out today after getting my ELCAN back from Canada. Sent mine back after discovering the POI shift between 1x and 4x was like 3 feet at 50 meters... took about a month or so, but they replaced it with a brand new unit... I got a few extra gas port screws from Parker Mountain Machine and replaced the one he sent it back with and installed a smaller size... REALLY made a difference in recoil. Running the SCAR with the AAC SDN6, its a real pussy cat for a .308... rang steel out to 600 meters today, although the holds on the BDC are a little off using a 13 inch barrel and 147 NATO loads... just hold a little high at 500 meters and hold on the head at 600 meters for center mass-ish hits... Probably my favorite .308 for the size, weight, and balance both suppressed and unsuppressed... <a href="http://s570.photobucket.com/user/hcarmody/media/IMG_5208.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i570.photobucket.com/albums/ss145/hcarmody/IMG_5208.jpg</a> <a href="http://s570.photobucket.com/user/hcarmody/media/IMG_5209.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i570.photobucket.com/albums/ss145/hcarmody/IMG_5209.jpg</a> Was this a factory 13in CQC barrel or did you get yours chopped? |
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Posted: 11/7/2016 7:06:02 PM EDT
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Took the 17 out to test the Elcan at range. Hit steel out to 675 yards no problem. 700 was a bit of a challenge. I was surprised at how easy it was to still see the targets that far. I struggled to hit targets at that distance with both optics when the barrel was hot, so I feel that is probably the limit of my abilities. I put some mags through with the 2.5-10 mounted, and was not able to make hits on multiple targets at distance as fast or consistently than I was with the Elcan. At this point, I don't think a 2.5-10 would allow me to do anything more than I could do with the Elcan.
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Posted: 11/7/2016 7:28:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By emtothedee:
Took the 17 out to test the Elcan at range. Hit steel out to 675 yards no problem. 700 was a bit of a challenge. I was surprised at how easy it was to still see the targets that far. I struggled to hit targets at that distance with both optics when the barrel was hot, so I feel that is probably the limit of my abilities. I put some mags through with the 2.5-10 mounted, and was not able to make hits on multiple targets at distance as fast or consistently than I was with the Elcan. At this point, I don't think a 2.5-10 would allow me to do anything more than I could do with the Elcan. <a href="http://s1246.photobucket.com/user/emtothedee/media/0B74D3A1-89E6-41B1-89EF-F7662291F168.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1246.photobucket.com/albums/gg607/emtothedee/0B74D3A1-89E6-41B1-89EF-F7662291F168.jpg</a> Looks like a lot of fun, what ammo? |
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Posted: 11/7/2016 7:34:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ViperEH:
Looks like a lot of fun, what ammo? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ViperEH:
Originally Posted By emtothedee:
Took the 17 out to test the Elcan at range. Hit steel out to 675 yards no problem. 700 was a bit of a challenge. I was surprised at how easy it was to still see the targets that far. I struggled to hit targets at that distance with both optics when the barrel was hot, so I feel that is probably the limit of my abilities. I put some mags through with the 2.5-10 mounted, and was not able to make hits on multiple targets at distance as fast or consistently than I was with the Elcan. At this point, I don't think a 2.5-10 would allow me to do anything more than I could do with the Elcan. <a href="http://s1246.photobucket.com/user/emtothedee/media/0B74D3A1-89E6-41B1-89EF-F7662291F168.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1246.photobucket.com/albums/gg607/emtothedee/0B74D3A1-89E6-41B1-89EF-F7662291F168.jpg</a> Looks like a lot of fun, what ammo? 175gr hpbt freedom munitions reloads and 150gr freedom munitions new |
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Posted: 11/8/2016 3:15:09 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/9/2016 12:33:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By emtothedee:
Damn that's awesome. Do you think you could make hits out to 700 or even 800 with that setup? Still cant decide if I wanna sell my Elcan or keep it <a href="http://s1246.photobucket.com/user/emtothedee/media/My%20Baby/645DAEE3-83A3-4DA4-B916-1D0D9A4C59B5.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1246.photobucket.com/albums/gg607/emtothedee/My%20Baby/645DAEE3-83A3-4DA4-B916-1D0D9A4C59B5.jpg</a> Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By emtothedee:
Originally Posted By carmodyh:
Took the 17 SBR out today after getting my ELCAN back from Canada. Sent mine back after discovering the POI shift between 1x and 4x was like 3 feet at 50 meters... took about a month or so, but they replaced it with a brand new unit... I got a few extra gas port screws from Parker Mountain Machine and replaced the one he sent it back with and installed a smaller size... REALLY made a difference in recoil. Running the SCAR with the AAC SDN6, its a real pussy cat for a .308... rang steel out to 600 meters today, although the holds on the BDC are a little off using a 13 inch barrel and 147 NATO loads... just hold a little high at 500 meters and hold on the head at 600 meters for center mass-ish hits... Probably my favorite .308 for the size, weight, and balance both suppressed and unsuppressed... <a href="http://s570.photobucket.com/user/hcarmody/media/IMG_5208.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i570.photobucket.com/albums/ss145/hcarmody/IMG_5208.jpg</a> <a href="http://s570.photobucket.com/user/hcarmody/media/IMG_5209.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i570.photobucket.com/albums/ss145/hcarmody/IMG_5209.jpg</a> Damn that's awesome. Do you think you could make hits out to 700 or even 800 with that setup? Still cant decide if I wanna sell my Elcan or keep it <a href="http://s1246.photobucket.com/user/emtothedee/media/My%20Baby/645DAEE3-83A3-4DA4-B916-1D0D9A4C59B5.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1246.photobucket.com/albums/gg607/emtothedee/My%20Baby/645DAEE3-83A3-4DA4-B916-1D0D9A4C59B5.jpg</a> For rakkasan, it was a factory 16 inch cut to 14 inches and pinned with the original PWS brake... when I SBR'ed it, I had Parker Mountain Machine (super nice dude by the way and quality work) cut it to 13 inches when the stamp came back. I cant say how accurate the 16 inch barrel would be vs the 13 inch (negligible would be my guess), but it still shoots sub MOA with FGMM 168s with or without the suppressor mounted. Would have been fine with a pinned 14.5 if the barrel wasn't already cut to 14 inches, but a 13 inch .308 with the size and weight of the SCAR, even with the suppressor, really is the bees knees if you want to spit out .308 pills... As far as shooting it at distance, I was getting those hits with 147 grain NATO. I used to be a "the ELCAN isn't worth the money blah blah go buy an ACOG with RMR kind of guy" The ELCAN really does shine with the eye box and eye relief when mounted to a .308. Clarity is superb and I echo the above post that I don't think I would be any more capable with a 1-6 scope or a 2.5-10x scope. I used to LOVE having mils and data to apply to hold overs or dial in whatever you needed. But my SCAR, as configured with the ELCAN, is sort of a cross between a battle rifle and a DMR. I wanted something I could hold a BDC on and swag a wind hold (either left edge or right edge of the target) and make hits on steel targets out to 600 meters (roughly 650 yards). I can do that with decent repeatability with the SCAR, and if I zeroed it with 168 grain or even 155 grain going as fast as possible, I bet I could do it even better. I think anything past 600 - 700 meters or so shooting at man sized targets that youll really need a different gun, or at least throw the 16 inch barrel in the scar and put a scope on it. But you can lob rounds out there all day and probably do some decent work with it In short, the more I shoot it, the more I love it. Also, I'll probably pick up a DPMS Recon G2 and put a MI handguard, MicroMOA gas block, and 2.5-10 power scope on top to fit the DMR role. |
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Posted: 11/9/2016 3:22:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By carmodyh:
For rakkasan, it was a factory 16 inch cut to 14 inches and pinned with the original PWS brake... when I SBR'ed it, I had Parker Mountain Machine (super nice dude by the way and quality work) cut it to 13 inches when the stamp came back. I cant say how accurate the 16 inch barrel would be vs the 13 inch (negligible would be my guess), but it still shoots sub MOA with FGMM 168s with or without the suppressor mounted. Would have been fine with a pinned 14.5 if the barrel wasn't already cut to 14 inches, but a 13 inch .308 with the size and weight of the SCAR, even with the suppressor, really is the bees knees if you want to spit out .308 pills... As far as shooting it at distance, I was getting those hits with 147 grain NATO. I used to be a "the ELCAN isn't worth the money blah blah go buy an ACOG with RMR kind of guy" The ELCAN really does shine with the eye box and eye relief when mounted to a .308. Clarity is superb and I echo the above post that I don't think I would be any more capable with a 1-6 scope or a 2.5-10x scope. I used to LOVE having mils and data to apply to hold overs or dial in whatever you needed. But my SCAR, as configured with the ELCAN, is sort of a cross between a battle rifle and a DMR. I wanted something I could hold a BDC on and swag a wind hold (either left edge or right edge of the target) and make hits on steel targets out to 600 meters (roughly 650 yards). I can do that with decent repeatability with the SCAR, and if I zeroed it with 168 grain or even 155 grain going as fast as possible, I bet I could do it even better. I think anything past 600 - 700 meters or so shooting at man sized targets that youll really need a different gun, or at least throw the 16 inch barrel in the scar and put a scope on it. But you can lob rounds out there all day and probably do some decent work with it In short, the more I shoot it, the more I love it. Also, I'll probably pick up a DPMS Recon G2 and put a MI handguard, MicroMOA gas block, and 2.5-10 power scope on top to fit the DMR role. What is it doing as far as bullet energy at 600ish yards with a barrel that short? I kind of want to SBR my 17 but I don't want to neuter it. |
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Posted: 11/10/2016 11:40:17 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SuperMoose:
What is it doing as far as bullet energy at 600ish yards with a barrel that short? I kind of want to SBR my 17 but I don't want to neuter it. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SuperMoose:
Originally Posted By carmodyh:
For rakkasan, it was a factory 16 inch cut to 14 inches and pinned with the original PWS brake... when I SBR'ed it, I had Parker Mountain Machine (super nice dude by the way and quality work) cut it to 13 inches when the stamp came back. I cant say how accurate the 16 inch barrel would be vs the 13 inch (negligible would be my guess), but it still shoots sub MOA with FGMM 168s with or without the suppressor mounted. Would have been fine with a pinned 14.5 if the barrel wasn't already cut to 14 inches, but a 13 inch .308 with the size and weight of the SCAR, even with the suppressor, really is the bees knees if you want to spit out .308 pills... As far as shooting it at distance, I was getting those hits with 147 grain NATO. I used to be a "the ELCAN isn't worth the money blah blah go buy an ACOG with RMR kind of guy" The ELCAN really does shine with the eye box and eye relief when mounted to a .308. Clarity is superb and I echo the above post that I don't think I would be any more capable with a 1-6 scope or a 2.5-10x scope. I used to LOVE having mils and data to apply to hold overs or dial in whatever you needed. But my SCAR, as configured with the ELCAN, is sort of a cross between a battle rifle and a DMR. I wanted something I could hold a BDC on and swag a wind hold (either left edge or right edge of the target) and make hits on steel targets out to 600 meters (roughly 650 yards). I can do that with decent repeatability with the SCAR, and if I zeroed it with 168 grain or even 155 grain going as fast as possible, I bet I could do it even better. I think anything past 600 - 700 meters or so shooting at man sized targets that youll really need a different gun, or at least throw the 16 inch barrel in the scar and put a scope on it. But you can lob rounds out there all day and probably do some decent work with it In short, the more I shoot it, the more I love it. Also, I'll probably pick up a DPMS Recon G2 and put a MI handguard, MicroMOA gas block, and 2.5-10 power scope on top to fit the DMR role. What is it doing as far as bullet energy at 600ish yards with a barrel that short? I kind of want to SBR my 17 but I don't want to neuter it. From the numbers I'm looking at, at least if I'm not way off base, if you push 168 grain pill out of a 13 inch barrel, at the muzzle I think most loads hover around 2300 fps or so... at 600 yards its still going around 1300-1400 fps... which to me, equates to getting hit with a .357 magnum at the muzzle, which is nothing to scoff at really. .308s don't suffer as much when you start cutting the barrel back. Sure, youll have to fight the wind a lot more with a shorter barrel and a slower bullet, but its still effective. so I guess you just have to define what you want to do with yours. DMR/precision role? I would keep the 16 inch barrel. Want a CQC brawler gun that handles more like a 5.56 but totes that 7.62 firepower? The SCAR 17 CQC is the ticket. OR, you could just get another barrel and have both configurations at your disposal... the concept great, I just don't like swapping optics and barrels and pulling stuff off the gun. Would rather have a second gun. Hell, for the price of a new SCAR barrel you could buy another gun. Sorry if I come off as repetitive, I just think the SCAR is the BEST all around battle rifle you can configure into whatever you want it to be. Ive tried to run PTR-91s and FALs against the SCAR in the same drills, etc... SCAR is just hard to beat. |
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Posted: 11/10/2016 1:06:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By carmodyh:
From the numbers I'm looking at, at least if I'm not way off base, if you push 168 grain pill out of a 13 inch barrel, at the muzzle I think most loads hover around 2300 fps or so... at 600 yards its still going around 1300-1400 fps... which to me, equates to getting hit with a .357 magnum at the muzzle, which is nothing to scoff at really. .308s don't suffer as much when you start cutting the barrel back. Sure, youll have to fight the wind a lot more with a shorter barrel and a slower bullet, but its still effective. so I guess you just have to define what you want to do with yours. DMR/precision role? I would keep the 16 inch barrel. Want a CQC brawler gun that handles more like a 5.56 but totes that 7.62 firepower? The SCAR 17 CQC is the ticket. OR, you could just get another barrel and have both configurations at your disposal... the concept great, I just don't like swapping optics and barrels and pulling stuff off the gun. Would rather have a second gun. Hell, for the price of a new SCAR barrel you could buy another gun. Sorry if I come off as repetitive, I just think the SCAR is the BEST all around battle rifle you can configure into whatever you want it to be. Ive tried to run PTR-91s and FALs against the SCAR in the same drills, etc... SCAR is just hard to beat. Not repetitive at all. Great information and I appreciate it! |
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Posted: 11/10/2016 4:06:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By carmodyh:
From the numbers I'm looking at, at least if I'm not way off base, if you push 168 grain pill out of a 13 inch barrel, at the muzzle I think most loads hover around 2300 fps or so... at 600 yards its still going around 1300-1400 fps... which to me, equates to getting hit with a .357 magnum at the muzzle, which is nothing to scoff at really. .308s don't suffer as much when you start cutting the barrel back. Sure, youll have to fight the wind a lot more with a shorter barrel and a slower bullet, but its still effective. so I guess you just have to define what you want to do with yours. DMR/precision role? I would keep the 16 inch barrel. Want a CQC brawler gun that handles more like a 5.56 but totes that 7.62 firepower? The SCAR 17 CQC is the ticket. OR, you could just get another barrel and have both configurations at your disposal... the concept great, I just don't like swapping optics and barrels and pulling stuff off the gun. Would rather have a second gun. Hell, for the price of a new SCAR barrel you could buy another gun. Sorry if I come off as repetitive, I just think the SCAR is the BEST all around battle rifle you can configure into whatever you want it to be. Ive tried to run PTR-91s and FALs against the SCAR in the same drills, etc... SCAR is just hard to beat. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By carmodyh:
Originally Posted By SuperMoose:
Originally Posted By carmodyh:
For rakkasan, it was a factory 16 inch cut to 14 inches and pinned with the original PWS brake... when I SBR'ed it, I had Parker Mountain Machine (super nice dude by the way and quality work) cut it to 13 inches when the stamp came back. I cant say how accurate the 16 inch barrel would be vs the 13 inch (negligible would be my guess), but it still shoots sub MOA with FGMM 168s with or without the suppressor mounted. Would have been fine with a pinned 14.5 if the barrel wasn't already cut to 14 inches, but a 13 inch .308 with the size and weight of the SCAR, even with the suppressor, really is the bees knees if you want to spit out .308 pills... As far as shooting it at distance, I was getting those hits with 147 grain NATO. I used to be a "the ELCAN isn't worth the money blah blah go buy an ACOG with RMR kind of guy" The ELCAN really does shine with the eye box and eye relief when mounted to a .308. Clarity is superb and I echo the above post that I don't think I would be any more capable with a 1-6 scope or a 2.5-10x scope. I used to LOVE having mils and data to apply to hold overs or dial in whatever you needed. But my SCAR, as configured with the ELCAN, is sort of a cross between a battle rifle and a DMR. I wanted something I could hold a BDC on and swag a wind hold (either left edge or right edge of the target) and make hits on steel targets out to 600 meters (roughly 650 yards). I can do that with decent repeatability with the SCAR, and if I zeroed it with 168 grain or even 155 grain going as fast as possible, I bet I could do it even better. I think anything past 600 - 700 meters or so shooting at man sized targets that youll really need a different gun, or at least throw the 16 inch barrel in the scar and put a scope on it. But you can lob rounds out there all day and probably do some decent work with it In short, the more I shoot it, the more I love it. Also, I'll probably pick up a DPMS Recon G2 and put a MI handguard, MicroMOA gas block, and 2.5-10 power scope on top to fit the DMR role. What is it doing as far as bullet energy at 600ish yards with a barrel that short? I kind of want to SBR my 17 but I don't want to neuter it. From the numbers I'm looking at, at least if I'm not way off base, if you push 168 grain pill out of a 13 inch barrel, at the muzzle I think most loads hover around 2300 fps or so... at 600 yards its still going around 1300-1400 fps... which to me, equates to getting hit with a .357 magnum at the muzzle, which is nothing to scoff at really. .308s don't suffer as much when you start cutting the barrel back. Sure, youll have to fight the wind a lot more with a shorter barrel and a slower bullet, but its still effective. so I guess you just have to define what you want to do with yours. DMR/precision role? I would keep the 16 inch barrel. Want a CQC brawler gun that handles more like a 5.56 but totes that 7.62 firepower? The SCAR 17 CQC is the ticket. OR, you could just get another barrel and have both configurations at your disposal... the concept great, I just don't like swapping optics and barrels and pulling stuff off the gun. Would rather have a second gun. Hell, for the price of a new SCAR barrel you could buy another gun. Sorry if I come off as repetitive, I just think the SCAR is the BEST all around battle rifle you can configure into whatever you want it to be. Ive tried to run PTR-91s and FALs against the SCAR in the same drills, etc... SCAR is just hard to beat. Did you need to play with the gas jets after the chop? I just SBR'd mine and haven't shot it yet. I bought the full gas jet kit but want to see how it ran first. Are you using the factory jet? I'm going to suppress mine as well and wonder if it will be over or under gassed. |
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Posted: 11/11/2016 12:06:16 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ChandlerKJ:
Did you need to play with the gas jets after the chop? I just SBR'd mine and haven't shot it yet. I bought the full gas jet kit but want to see how it ran first. Are you using the factory jet? I'm going to suppress mine as well and wonder if it will be over or under gassed. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ChandlerKJ:
Originally Posted By carmodyh:
Originally Posted By SuperMoose:
Originally Posted By carmodyh:
For rakkasan, it was a factory 16 inch cut to 14 inches and pinned with the original PWS brake... when I SBR'ed it, I had Parker Mountain Machine (super nice dude by the way and quality work) cut it to 13 inches when the stamp came back. I cant say how accurate the 16 inch barrel would be vs the 13 inch (negligible would be my guess), but it still shoots sub MOA with FGMM 168s with or without the suppressor mounted. Would have been fine with a pinned 14.5 if the barrel wasn't already cut to 14 inches, but a 13 inch .308 with the size and weight of the SCAR, even with the suppressor, really is the bees knees if you want to spit out .308 pills... As far as shooting it at distance, I was getting those hits with 147 grain NATO. I used to be a "the ELCAN isn't worth the money blah blah go buy an ACOG with RMR kind of guy" The ELCAN really does shine with the eye box and eye relief when mounted to a .308. Clarity is superb and I echo the above post that I don't think I would be any more capable with a 1-6 scope or a 2.5-10x scope. I used to LOVE having mils and data to apply to hold overs or dial in whatever you needed. But my SCAR, as configured with the ELCAN, is sort of a cross between a battle rifle and a DMR. I wanted something I could hold a BDC on and swag a wind hold (either left edge or right edge of the target) and make hits on steel targets out to 600 meters (roughly 650 yards). I can do that with decent repeatability with the SCAR, and if I zeroed it with 168 grain or even 155 grain going as fast as possible, I bet I could do it even better. I think anything past 600 - 700 meters or so shooting at man sized targets that youll really need a different gun, or at least throw the 16 inch barrel in the scar and put a scope on it. But you can lob rounds out there all day and probably do some decent work with it In short, the more I shoot it, the more I love it. Also, I'll probably pick up a DPMS Recon G2 and put a MI handguard, MicroMOA gas block, and 2.5-10 power scope on top to fit the DMR role. What is it doing as far as bullet energy at 600ish yards with a barrel that short? I kind of want to SBR my 17 but I don't want to neuter it. From the numbers I'm looking at, at least if I'm not way off base, if you push 168 grain pill out of a 13 inch barrel, at the muzzle I think most loads hover around 2300 fps or so... at 600 yards its still going around 1300-1400 fps... which to me, equates to getting hit with a .357 magnum at the muzzle, which is nothing to scoff at really. .308s don't suffer as much when you start cutting the barrel back. Sure, youll have to fight the wind a lot more with a shorter barrel and a slower bullet, but its still effective. so I guess you just have to define what you want to do with yours. DMR/precision role? I would keep the 16 inch barrel. Want a CQC brawler gun that handles more like a 5.56 but totes that 7.62 firepower? The SCAR 17 CQC is the ticket. OR, you could just get another barrel and have both configurations at your disposal... the concept great, I just don't like swapping optics and barrels and pulling stuff off the gun. Would rather have a second gun. Hell, for the price of a new SCAR barrel you could buy another gun. Sorry if I come off as repetitive, I just think the SCAR is the BEST all around battle rifle you can configure into whatever you want it to be. Ive tried to run PTR-91s and FALs against the SCAR in the same drills, etc... SCAR is just hard to beat. Did you need to play with the gas jets after the chop? I just SBR'd mine and haven't shot it yet. I bought the full gas jet kit but want to see how it ran first. Are you using the factory jet? I'm going to suppress mine as well and wonder if it will be over or under gassed. Chandler, that's actually a great question. So, I had PMM chop both my 16S and 17S when my stamps came back. The 16S was tuned properly and after a little bit of a break in, it runs super smooth and has perfect 3-4 o'clock ejection unsuppressed and with a Surefire SOCOM SB in the suppressed setting its about the smoothest recoil impulse ive felt. The more I shoot it the more I like it.. As for the 17S, I was initially disappointed when I took it out the first time. Even with an AAC Brakeout 2.0, I felt like the gun was kicking the shit out of me unsuppressed and with the suppressor on it felt like I was shooting a .50 cal. I cant find my paperwork right now to see what port he had installed, but it was WAY overgassed. After swapping it out it shoots like a dream. Swapped out the AAC Brakout 2.0 for the 51T flash hider. Less bang and noise without the can and with the can its a smooth shooter. EDIT: Found my paperwork, 17S came back from PMM with a 1.85 gas port... dropped down to a 1.7 and its a champ with a 1.7. I google-foo'ed and found that most people run around that gas port +/- .05 with good results I think PMM ships them back overgassed for reliability I guess... but the 1.7 runs everything I put in it from 147 to 175 grain ha, and now here I am bringing gas port size discussions to the SCAR thread... those belong in the MK18 thread...
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Posted: 11/11/2016 8:55:06 PM EDT
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I cut mine down to 14.5" and it was way over gassed, I think it was before but I never shot it. I used a 1.35 jet and its perfect.
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Posted: 11/11/2016 11:38:02 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/11/2016 11:38:16 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Winniethepooh]
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Dupe
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Posted: 11/16/2016 12:02:05 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By buddyhoohaw:
I've had an MRO sitting around for a while so I'm going to run it on the SCAR and see how I like it. I'm waiting on a low mount which I think will be ideal. <a href="http://s5.photobucket.com/user/buddyhoohaw/media/FN%20SCAR/FullSizeRender220_zpswrpbf82v.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y198/buddyhoohaw/FN%20SCAR/FullSizeRender220_zpswrpbf82v.jpg</a> Cheers I have one on my backup/beater AR 14.5" and I love it. I think it's almost as good as the T1/2 but I just can't get over its periscope like looks. |
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