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Posted: 10/24/2014 6:02:17 PM EDT
I am now in possession of a current and recent ATF Determination letter.

It is legal to use a RDIAS in a COLT 901.

Letter is clear and says its legal.

I will likely post proof at some point. I currently dont have use of a scanner.

Approved to rock and roll  .308 style.

Link Posted: 10/24/2014 6:32:30 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 10/24/2014 6:34:26 PM EDT
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I am getting some IMs wanting a copy of the letter.

I will make it available in the very near future.

I have to redact all personal info, name and address throughout and then get it scanned.

Link Posted: 10/24/2014 6:58:26 PM EDT
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Very nice.

I think a LE901 is now in my immediate future.

Anybody SBR one of these?
Link Posted: 10/24/2014 9:17:21 PM EDT
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Cool.  I guess I'll get one now :)
Link Posted: 10/24/2014 10:02:51 PM EDT
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Awesome! My G3 could always use a friend.
Link Posted: 10/25/2014 12:30:05 PM EDT
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Can you use LL on 901 w/ both 308 & 556 kit?
Link Posted: 10/25/2014 1:17:06 PM EDT
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Very cool. I would love to see a video of the Colt SP901 with DIAS in it going full-auto. Any mods needed besides swapping out the fire control group? I may need to pick up one of these.
Link Posted: 10/25/2014 1:44:40 PM EDT
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Cool



I just sent in the paperwork for my sear.  I have to buy a colt now.
Link Posted: 10/25/2014 6:25:12 PM EDT
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Very nice.

I think a LE901 is now in my immediate future.

Anybody SBR one of these?



Can you use LL on 901 w/ both 308 & 556 kit?


+1. Relevant to my interests.
Link Posted: 10/25/2014 7:54:15 PM EDT
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I have a dumb question... Why wouldn't it be legal if the DIAS is legal?
Link Posted: 10/26/2014 10:16:41 AM EDT
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This is one lower that can do everything from .22 to .308.

Thats very cool!

I decided to NOT public post the letter, BUT will gladly email it to AR15.COM and UZITALK members.

And I ask that you kindly not public post it.

Just send me a EMAIL via the site.

I should have it ready in the next day or so.
Link Posted: 10/26/2014 10:25:27 AM EDT
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Great to hear.
Link Posted: 10/26/2014 11:09:54 AM EDT
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I have a dumb question... Why wouldn't it be legal if the DIAS is legal?
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The ATF has already rendered opinions that the DIAS was intended for use in AR15 style rifles and cannot be used in other rifles such as the AR10.  I'm a bit unfamiliar with the Colt in question.  I think it is more of an AR15 rifle with a blown out mag well to take 308 magazines, but can still take standard 5.56 uppers.  For all intents and purposes, it is essentially an AR15 and thus the ATF position on DIAS usage.
Link Posted: 10/26/2014 8:34:31 PM EDT
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Can you use LL on 901 w/ both 308 & 556 kit?
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Very nice.

I think a LE901 is now in my immediate future.

Anybody SBR one of these?



Can you use LL on 901 w/ both 308 & 556 kit?



I certainly don't see why not.  You could have to mill your bolt to SP1 spec, but that shouldn't be a big issue.
Link Posted: 10/26/2014 8:43:15 PM EDT
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Rdias +2000$
Link Posted: 10/26/2014 10:11:43 PM EDT
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This is one lower that can do everything from .22 to .308.
Thats very cool!
I decided to NOT public post the letter, BUT will gladly email it to AR15.COM and UZITALK members.
And I ask that you kindly not public post it.
Just send me a EMAIL via the site.
I should have it ready in the next day or so.
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Fuck the guys at Uzitalk.  They bashed me for my 16" Uzi pistol/rifle QD stock letter and I proved them wrong then pulled the letter.  Years later they are asking for it but they can buy me five high quality hookers in vegas before I post it on their site again.
 
Link Posted: 10/27/2014 11:06:05 AM EDT
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email copy has been sent for those wanting proof.

I would very much like to see a vid of anyone using the RDIAS in 901 .308.

would be interesting to see the recoil????

This would be a good reason to install the 3 round burst setup???

Link Posted: 10/27/2014 11:14:00 AM EDT
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x2
Link Posted: 10/27/2014 3:04:47 PM EDT
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would be interesting to see the recoil????

This would be a good reason to install the 3 round burst setup???
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I don't bother with burst on the FAL or G3, even though my trigger pack for the G3 does 013A.  Guess it will come down to preference on your part, but if you do it, it won't be from necessity.
Link Posted: 10/27/2014 5:23:48 PM EDT
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I am now in possession of a current and recent ATF Determination letter.

It is legal to use a RDIAS in a COLT 901.

Letter is clear and says its legal.

I will likely post proof at some point. I currently dont have use of a scanner.

Approved to rock and roll  .308 style.

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You should understand what the scope and limitation are for letters of determination before you go distributing this to all comers. This is private correspondence between you and ATF, nothing more. It is not an official policy nor a binding position for ATF. They can change their mind at any time.
Link Posted: 10/27/2014 5:35:09 PM EDT
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You should understand what the scope and limitation are for letters of determination before you go distributing this to all comers. This is private correspondence between you and ATF, nothing more. It is not an official policy nor a binding position for ATF. They can change their mind at any time.
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I am now in possession of a current and recent ATF Determination letter.



It is legal to use a RDIAS in a COLT 901.



Letter is clear and says its legal.



I will likely post proof at some point. I currently dont have use of a scanner.



Approved to rock and roll  .308 style.







You should understand what the scope and limitation are for letters of determination before you go distributing this to all comers. This is private correspondence between you and ATF, nothing more. It is not an official policy nor a binding position for ATF. They can change their mind at any time.
This is unfortunately the truth.  They went after Len Savage even though they had issued him a letter.



 
Link Posted: 10/27/2014 6:29:50 PM EDT
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This is unfortunately the truth.  They went after Len Savage even though they had issued him a letter.
 
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I am now in possession of a current and recent ATF Determination letter.

It is legal to use a RDIAS in a COLT 901.

Letter is clear and says its legal.

I will likely post proof at some point. I currently dont have use of a scanner.

Approved to rock and roll  .308 style.



You should understand what the scope and limitation are for letters of determination before you go distributing this to all comers. This is private correspondence between you and ATF, nothing more. It is not an official policy nor a binding position for ATF. They can change their mind at any time.
This is unfortunately the truth.  They went after Len Savage even though they had issued him a letter.
 



Of course they can.  However, I highly doubt they will prosecute either the current holder of the letter (or most likely anybody else that has a copy) without first issuing a retraction.  If you want to be super safe you can write your own letter asking the exact same thing and get your own reply addressed to you.   I personally think you are pretty covered up as long as you have a corespondence with them taking a position in writing, but there is nothing wrong with getting your own version either should you feel the need.

Worst case, you buy an LE901, the ATF changes its mind and says no at some point down the road.   Just like the BRP XMG deal.   You just dont put the DIAS back in.

Len is a special case as he has been poking the ATF in the eye for quite some time.   I beleive with Len all they did was retract a tech branch determination letter, not actually try and put him in jail or prosecute him over his M11/9 belt fed conversion sample.    However, somebody can correct me if I am wrong on that account.
Link Posted: 11/18/2014 8:10:07 AM EDT
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It would be wise that if you ever wanted a Colt 901 to buy it NOW.

It is likely Colt will discontinue this model very soon due to Colt restructure.

Link Posted: 11/19/2014 3:44:08 PM EDT
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Do the new colt 901 offerings have the same open dimensions inside their lowers? Hoping they didn't put in a shelf or anything.
Link Posted: 11/22/2014 3:27:27 PM EDT
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It would be wise that if you ever wanted a Colt 901 to buy it NOW.

It is likely Colt will discontinue this model very soon due to Colt restructure.

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They just starting releasing two new models of the 901, so I do not see them going anywhere anytime soon.
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