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Posted: 4/11/2014 8:06:19 AM EDT
Just bought a Olympic Arms M16 that was modified by Frankford Arsenal to be Full Auto.
 From my Google searches it appears Frankford Arsenal is no longer in business. Would Olympic Arms have any record of the rifle? anyone know of a good source of info about these rifles?
I understand part of the reason the Non-Colt RR are cheaper is they dont have much collectable value but was just curious if there is anything out there on them. Thanks! ~S |
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Posted: 4/11/2014 8:12:36 AM EDT
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You can request information about your RR from the ATF via freedom of information act, however I heard that ATF doesn't process these requests anymore since you know.. those assholes are above the law in their opinion. Look here: https://www.ar15.com/archive/topic.html?b=6&f=23&t=363832
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Posted: 4/11/2014 8:20:38 AM EDT
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You can request information about your RR from the ATF via freedom of information act, however I heard that ATF doesn't process these requests anymore since you know.. those assholes are above the law in their opinion. Look here: https://www.ar15.com/archive/topic.html?b=6&f=23&t=363832 https://www.atf.gov/content/contact-us/FOIA/how-to-request-ATF-records found that on their website, i will give it a try, not like i have anything better to do for the next year while i wait on my Form 4 
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Posted: 4/11/2014 9:05:25 AM EDT
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Olympic Arms had a loss of their records due to a fire back in 2000.
It is possible that they may be able to locate records on your rifle, but I would be very surprised. Let us know how it turns out. |
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Posted: 4/11/2014 9:07:53 AM EDT
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https://www.atf.gov/content/contact-us/FOIA/how-to-request-ATF-records found that on their website, i will give it a try, not like i have anything better to do for the next year while i wait on my Form 4 Quote HistoryQuoted:
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You can request information about your RR from the ATF via freedom of information act, however I heard that ATF doesn't process these requests anymore since you know.. those assholes are above the law in their opinion. Look here: https://www.ar15.com/archive/topic.html?b=6&f=23&t=363832 https://www.atf.gov/content/contact-us/FOIA/how-to-request-ATF-records found that on their website, i will give it a try, not like i have anything better to do for the next year while i wait on my Form 4 FWIW, by law, an FOIA request may only be done by the registered owner. So they will bounce the FOIA if they receive it before the Form 4 is approved. 
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Posted: 4/11/2014 9:10:31 AM EDT
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FWIW, by law, an FOIA request may only be done by the registered owner. So they will bounce the FOIA if they receive it before the Form 4 is approved. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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You can request information about your RR from the ATF via freedom of information act, however I heard that ATF doesn't process these requests anymore since you know.. those assholes are above the law in their opinion. Look here: https://www.ar15.com/archive/topic.html?b=6&f=23&t=363832 https://www.atf.gov/content/contact-us/FOIA/how-to-request-ATF-records found that on their website, i will give it a try, not like i have anything better to do for the next year while i wait on my Form 4 FWIW, by law, an FOIA request may only be done by the registered owner. So they will bounce the FOIA if they receive it before the Form 4 is approved. Good to know and tag for info when I get my paper back on my colt SP1 conversion, Does colt give out any info if you contact them? |
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Posted: 4/11/2014 9:24:07 AM EDT
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FWIW, by law, an FOIA request may only be done by the registered owner. So they will bounce the FOIA if they receive it before the Form 4 is approved. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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You can request information about your RR from the ATF via freedom of information act, however I heard that ATF doesn't process these requests anymore since you know.. those assholes are above the law in their opinion. Look here: https://www.ar15.com/archive/topic.html?b=6&f=23&t=363832 https://www.atf.gov/content/contact-us/FOIA/how-to-request-ATF-records found that on their website, i will give it a try, not like i have anything better to do for the next year while i wait on my Form 4 FWIW, by law, an FOIA request may only be done by the registered owner. So they will bounce the FOIA if they receive it before the Form 4 is approved. well crap, that ruins all my fun, now i really have nothing to do for the next year. Ill just have to keep working on stock piling ammo, ive never fired a full auto but i hear it burns through ammo way faster than you would think. |
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Posted: 4/11/2014 11:21:04 AM EDT
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well crap, that ruins all my fun, now i really have nothing to do for the next year. Ill just have to keep working on stock piling ammo, ive never fired a full auto but i hear it burns through ammo way faster than you would think. Nope - ask the seller to submit the FOIA for you. |
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Posted: 4/11/2014 11:48:59 AM EDT
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well crap, that ruins all my fun, now i really have nothing to do for the next year. Ill just have to keep working on stock piling ammo, ive never fired a full auto but i hear it burns through ammo way faster than you would think. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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You can request information about your RR from the ATF via freedom of information act, however I heard that ATF doesn't process these requests anymore since you know.. those assholes are above the law in their opinion. Look here: https://www.ar15.com/archive/topic.html?b=6&f=23&t=363832 https://www.atf.gov/content/contact-us/FOIA/how-to-request-ATF-records found that on their website, i will give it a try, not like i have anything better to do for the next year while i wait on my Form 4 FWIW, by law, an FOIA request may only be done by the registered owner. So they will bounce the FOIA if they receive it before the Form 4 is approved. well crap, that ruins all my fun, now i really have nothing to do for the next year. Ill just have to keep working on stock piling ammo, ive never fired a full auto but i hear it burns through ammo way faster than you would think. Depending on who you're buying it from ... you could always ask them if they would mind sending in the FOIA request if you write it for them, and then forwarding the results to you. The request doesn't cost anything. |
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Posted: 4/11/2014 12:30:36 PM EDT
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Depending on who you're buying it from ... you could always ask them if they would mind sending in the FOIA request if you write it for them, and then forwarding the results to you. The request doesn't cost anything. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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You can request information about your RR from the ATF via freedom of information act, however I heard that ATF doesn't process these requests anymore since you know.. those assholes are above the law in their opinion. Look here: https://www.ar15.com/archive/topic.html?b=6&f=23&t=363832 https://www.atf.gov/content/contact-us/FOIA/how-to-request-ATF-records found that on their website, i will give it a try, not like i have anything better to do for the next year while i wait on my Form 4 FWIW, by law, an FOIA request may only be done by the registered owner. So they will bounce the FOIA if they receive it before the Form 4 is approved. well crap, that ruins all my fun, now i really have nothing to do for the next year. Ill just have to keep working on stock piling ammo, ive never fired a full auto but i hear it burns through ammo way faster than you would think. Depending on who you're buying it from ... you could always ask them if they would mind sending in the FOIA request if you write it for them, and then forwarding the results to you. The request doesn't cost anything. I sent in a request on my M16 Got a letter saying they had received the request. Nothing since, it's been more than a year I guess |
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Posted: 4/11/2014 1:12:13 PM EDT
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Olympic's "What Does My Serial Number Mean" page may be of interest if you haven't seen it yet:
http://www.olyarms.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=13&Itemid=27
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Posted: 4/11/2014 2:30:42 PM EDT
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Olympic's "What Does My Serial Number Mean" page may be of interest if you haven't seen it yet: http://www.olyarms.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=13&Itemid=27 Couldn't find my serial number on the list, starts with prefix FA and then a number. But looks like they started production in 79' so it had to be made between the. And 86' I guess |
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Posted: 4/11/2014 10:10:21 PM EDT
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Good to know and tag for info when I get my paper back on my colt SP1 conversion, Does colt give out any info if you contact them? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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You can request information about your RR from the ATF via freedom of information act, however I heard that ATF doesn't process these requests anymore since you know.. those assholes are above the law in their opinion. Look here: https://www.ar15.com/archive/topic.html?b=6&f=23&t=363832 https://www.atf.gov/content/contact-us/FOIA/how-to-request-ATF-records found that on their website, i will give it a try, not like i have anything better to do for the next year while i wait on my Form 4 FWIW, by law, an FOIA request may only be done by the registered owner. So they will bounce the FOIA if they receive it before the Form 4 is approved. Good to know and tag for info when I get my paper back on my colt SP1 conversion, Does colt give out any info if you contact them? Colt would be happy to tell you when the semi was sold. Well, maybe they would. They might not give that info out. They have nothing to do with the MG status of the weapon. |
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