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Posted: 6/14/2012 9:26:25 PM
Originally Posted By damcv62: Originally Posted By Quake_Guy: Originally Posted By cyborg543: Gee, I wish I had a time machine back to 6 or 8 weeks ago when sendras were $10K. Seriously, fucking scabby lower on sturm sold for 11.5K. WTF 15% price increases in 2 months? Maybe you are getting special deals, but Sendras haven't been $10k for over a year. 2 years ago all I could find in AZ were SP1s and PAWS for $9500, wish I had bought one of them but was holding out for a Sendra or Colt even if I had to pay more. Meh. I got a SP1 for $8500 like three weeks ago. I'd guess I could find a sendra for $10k or less in a couple of months or less. You Sir are the only guy to find better deals then I. Did the SP1 find you or did you find it? beater/shooter or nicer?? Thanks |
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Posted: 6/14/2012 11:34:59 PM
Originally Posted By damcv62:
Originally Posted By Quake_Guy:
Originally Posted By cyborg543:
Gee, I wish I had a time machine back to 6 or 8 weeks ago when sendras were $10K. Seriously, fucking scabby lower on sturm sold for 11.5K. WTF 15% price increases in 2 months? Maybe you are getting special deals, but Sendras haven't been $10k for over a year. 2 years ago all I could find in AZ were SP1s and PAWS for $9500, wish I had bought one of them but was holding out for a Sendra or Colt even if I had to pay more. Meh. I got a SP1 for $8500 like three weeks ago. I'd guess I could find a sendra for $10k or less in a couple of months or less. Nice! I want to pick up a real M16 lower or complete gun to compliment my RDIAS in a couple months. I guess the best prices are going to be found by looking at local shops, and NOT online? $8500 for a Colt SP1 is AWESOME. Good job! |
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Posted: 6/15/2012 8:46:44 AM
Originally Posted By Chas8008:
Originally Posted By damcv62:
Originally Posted By Quake_Guy:
Originally Posted By cyborg543:
Gee, I wish I had a time machine back to 6 or 8 weeks ago when sendras were $10K. Seriously, fucking scabby lower on sturm sold for 11.5K. WTF 15% price increases in 2 months? Maybe you are getting special deals, but Sendras haven't been $10k for over a year. 2 years ago all I could find in AZ were SP1s and PAWS for $9500, wish I had bought one of them but was holding out for a Sendra or Colt even if I had to pay more. Meh. I got a SP1 for $8500 like three weeks ago. I'd guess I could find a sendra for $10k or less in a couple of months or less. You Sir are the only guy to find better deals then I. Did the SP1 find you or did you find it? beater/shooter or nicer?? Thanks I found it. Posted online. It wasn't in bad condition at all. I could have left it be, but I wanted to get the small pin conversion done by M60joe. Which he did a great job on, and refinished it in the darker colt color they are currently using. So I've got a small pin colt, in the current color, for under $9k once all the tax and everything has been paid. I'm happy with that. |
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Posted: 6/15/2012 8:49:48 AM
Originally Posted By collegeboy:
Originally Posted By damcv62:
Originally Posted By Quake_Guy:
Originally Posted By cyborg543:
Gee, I wish I had a time machine back to 6 or 8 weeks ago when sendras were $10K. Seriously, fucking scabby lower on sturm sold for 11.5K. WTF 15% price increases in 2 months? Maybe you are getting special deals, but Sendras haven't been $10k for over a year. 2 years ago all I could find in AZ were SP1s and PAWS for $9500, wish I had bought one of them but was holding out for a Sendra or Colt even if I had to pay more. Meh. I got a SP1 for $8500 like three weeks ago. I'd guess I could find a sendra for $10k or less in a couple of months or less. Nice! I want to pick up a real M16 lower or complete gun to compliment my RDIAS in a couple months. I guess the best prices are going to be found by looking at local shops, and NOT online? $8500 for a Colt SP1 is AWESOME. Good job! You can find them online, you just have to be online all the time. There are a couple of deals I missed, like the full auto AK that sold for $12k like three weeks ago. That one was an awesome deal as well. Some times you can find smaller shops that have stuff, but most of them in this day and age have someone working there that can get online and check prices. There was a guy I met at the local show, the one I got the uzi from, he had it sitting on the table for $6900, because I was a dealer he offered it to me for $6500 for the shop, but when he found out it was for me personally, he let me have it for $6k. Even at $6900 it was a pretty good deal. |
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Posted: 6/15/2012 9:31:38 AM
Originally Posted By damcv62: Originally Posted By collegeboy: Originally Posted By damcv62: Originally Posted By Quake_Guy: Originally Posted By cyborg543: Gee, I wish I had a time machine back to 6 or 8 weeks ago when sendras were $10K. Seriously, fucking scabby lower on sturm sold for 11.5K. WTF 15% price increases in 2 months? Maybe you are getting special deals, but Sendras haven't been $10k for over a year. 2 years ago all I could find in AZ were SP1s and PAWS for $9500, wish I had bought one of them but was holding out for a Sendra or Colt even if I had to pay more. Meh. I got a SP1 for $8500 like three weeks ago. I'd guess I could find a sendra for $10k or less in a couple of months or less. Nice! I want to pick up a real M16 lower or complete gun to compliment my RDIAS in a couple months. I guess the best prices are going to be found by looking at local shops, and NOT online? $8500 for a Colt SP1 is AWESOME. Good job! You can find them online, you just have to be online all the time. There are a couple of deals I missed, like the full auto AK that sold for $12k like three weeks ago. That one was an awesome deal as well. Some times you can find smaller shops that have stuff, but most of them in this day and age have someone working there that can get online and check prices. There was a guy I met at the local show, the one I got the uzi from, he had it sitting on the table for $6900, because I was a dealer he offered it to me for $6500 for the shop, but when he found out it was for me personally, he let me have it for $6k. Even at $6900 it was a pretty good deal. Damn you.  I want an Uzi. For $6k I would have bought it in a heart beat. |
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Posted: 6/15/2012 10:53:59 AM
Originally Posted By MP15T:
Originally Posted By damcv62:
Originally Posted By collegeboy:
Originally Posted By damcv62:
Originally Posted By Quake_Guy:
Originally Posted By cyborg543:
Gee, I wish I had a time machine back to 6 or 8 weeks ago when sendras were $10K. Seriously, fucking scabby lower on sturm sold for 11.5K. WTF 15% price increases in 2 months? Maybe you are getting special deals, but Sendras haven't been $10k for over a year. 2 years ago all I could find in AZ were SP1s and PAWS for $9500, wish I had bought one of them but was holding out for a Sendra or Colt even if I had to pay more. Meh. I got a SP1 for $8500 like three weeks ago. I'd guess I could find a sendra for $10k or less in a couple of months or less. Nice! I want to pick up a real M16 lower or complete gun to compliment my RDIAS in a couple months. I guess the best prices are going to be found by looking at local shops, and NOT online? $8500 for a Colt SP1 is AWESOME. Good job! You can find them online, you just have to be online all the time. There are a couple of deals I missed, like the full auto AK that sold for $12k like three weeks ago. That one was an awesome deal as well. Some times you can find smaller shops that have stuff, but most of them in this day and age have someone working there that can get online and check prices. There was a guy I met at the local show, the one I got the uzi from, he had it sitting on the table for $6900, because I was a dealer he offered it to me for $6500 for the shop, but when he found out it was for me personally, he let me have it for $6k. Even at $6900 it was a pretty good deal. Damn you.
I want an Uzi. For $6k I would have bought it in a heart beat. No kidding. I would have rather gotten a mini, but hey, for that kind of price, I'll take a full size. It doesn't hurt to ask. How many dealers do you see at the shows that have the same stuff, year in, year out? Might as well make them an offer. Of course this guy wasn't one of the big name dealers in the area, and he only had two tables, but it was still sitting there, full two days of people walking by it, no takers. If most of his stuff he has had for 20+ years, he might be willing to sell it for a bit under market value. |
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Posted: 6/15/2012 2:17:29 PM
Originally Posted By damcv62:
Originally Posted By MP15T:
Originally Posted By damcv62:
Originally Posted By collegeboy:
Originally Posted By damcv62:
Originally Posted By Quake_Guy:
Originally Posted By cyborg543:
Gee, I wish I had a time machine back to 6 or 8 weeks ago when sendras were $10K. Seriously, fucking scabby lower on sturm sold for 11.5K. WTF 15% price increases in 2 months? Maybe you are getting special deals, but Sendras haven't been $10k for over a year. 2 years ago all I could find in AZ were SP1s and PAWS for $9500, wish I had bought one of them but was holding out for a Sendra or Colt even if I had to pay more. Meh. I got a SP1 for $8500 like three weeks ago. I'd guess I could find a sendra for $10k or less in a couple of months or less. Nice! I want to pick up a real M16 lower or complete gun to compliment my RDIAS in a couple months. I guess the best prices are going to be found by looking at local shops, and NOT online? $8500 for a Colt SP1 is AWESOME. Good job! You can find them online, you just have to be online all the time. There are a couple of deals I missed, like the full auto AK that sold for $12k like three weeks ago. That one was an awesome deal as well. Some times you can find smaller shops that have stuff, but most of them in this day and age have someone working there that can get online and check prices. There was a guy I met at the local show, the one I got the uzi from, he had it sitting on the table for $6900, because I was a dealer he offered it to me for $6500 for the shop, but when he found out it was for me personally, he let me have it for $6k. Even at $6900 it was a pretty good deal. Damn you.
I want an Uzi. For $6k I would have bought it in a heart beat. No kidding. I would have rather gotten a mini, but hey, for that kind of price, I'll take a full size. It doesn't hurt to ask. How many dealers do you see at the shows that have the same stuff, year in, year out? Might as well make them an offer. Of course this guy wasn't one of the big name dealers in the area, and he only had two tables, but it was still sitting there, full two days of people walking by it, no takers. If most of his stuff he has had for 20+ years, he might be willing to sell it for a bit under market value. You should play the lottery more |
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Chas8008
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Posted: 6/15/2012 3:40:15 PM
Originally Posted By cyborg543: Originally Posted By damcv62: Originally Posted By MP15T: Originally Posted By damcv62: Originally Posted By collegeboy: Originally Posted By damcv62: Originally Posted By Quake_Guy: Originally Posted By cyborg543: Gee, I wish I had a time machine back to 6 or 8 weeks ago when sendras were $10K. Seriously, fucking scabby lower on sturm sold for 11.5K. WTF 15% price increases in 2 months? Maybe you are getting special deals, but Sendras haven't been $10k for over a year. 2 years ago all I could find in AZ were SP1s and PAWS for $9500, wish I had bought one of them but was holding out for a Sendra or Colt even if I had to pay more. Meh. I got a SP1 for $8500 like three weeks ago. I'd guess I could find a sendra for $10k or less in a couple of months or less. Nice! I want to pick up a real M16 lower or complete gun to compliment my RDIAS in a couple months. I guess the best prices are going to be found by looking at local shops, and NOT online? $8500 for a Colt SP1 is AWESOME. Good job! You can find them online, you just have to be online all the time. There are a couple of deals I missed, like the full auto AK that sold for $12k like three weeks ago. That one was an awesome deal as well. Some times you can find smaller shops that have stuff, but most of them in this day and age have someone working there that can get online and check prices. There was a guy I met at the local show, the one I got the uzi from, he had it sitting on the table for $6900, because I was a dealer he offered it to me for $6500 for the shop, but when he found out it was for me personally, he let me have it for $6k. Even at $6900 it was a pretty good deal. Damn you. I want an Uzi. For $6k I would have bought it in a heart beat. No kidding. I would have rather gotten a mini, but hey, for that kind of price, I'll take a full size. It doesn't hurt to ask. How many dealers do you see at the shows that have the same stuff, year in, year out? Might as well make them an offer. Of course this guy wasn't one of the big name dealers in the area, and he only had two tables, but it was still sitting there, full two days of people walking by it, no takers. If most of his stuff he has had for 20+ years, he might be willing to sell it for a bit under market value. You should play the lottery more That is a good price, my Buddy* picked up a Victor Uzi with 5 mags, a 22 kit with 3 mags, a spare wooden stock, and a brass catcher for $6500 two weeks ago. |
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Posted: 6/15/2012 9:06:05 PM
[Last Edit: 6/15/2012 9:08:38 PM by Quake_Guy]
Again with the low prices, I think Arizona must have the highest priced machine guns in the nation. And if the price seems too good to be true, its always out of state and often too sketchy to send big money to a stranger.
I'd pay $10k for a good Sendra no problem and add a nice finder's fee. |
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Posted: 6/17/2012 11:59:14 AM
Sendra bushmaster on sturm for 20k.
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Posted: 6/17/2012 1:46:38 PM
Originally Posted By Quake_Guy: Again with the low prices, I think Arizona must have the highest priced machine guns in the nation. And if the price seems too good to be true, its always out of state and often too sketchy to send big money to a stranger. I'd pay $10k for a good Sendra no problem and add a nice finder's fee. The guy I bought my Uzi from sold a Sendra for $10k and a Colt m16a1 for $12k. a month ago  |
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Posted: 6/17/2012 11:18:07 PM
Originally Posted By Chas8008:
Originally Posted By Quake_Guy:
Again with the low prices, I think Arizona must have the highest priced machine guns in the nation. And if the price seems too good to be true, its always out of state and often too sketchy to send big money to a stranger. I'd pay $10k for a good Sendra no problem and add a nice finder's fee. The guy I bought my Uzi from sold a Sendra for $10k and a Colt m16a1 for $12k. a month ago
The deals are out there, you just have to know where to look. |
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Posted: 6/19/2012 11:52:28 PM
Originally Posted By damcv62:
Originally Posted By Chas8008:
Originally Posted By Quake_Guy:
Again with the low prices, I think Arizona must have the highest priced machine guns in the nation. And if the price seems too good to be true, its always out of state and often too sketchy to send big money to a stranger. I'd pay $10k for a good Sendra no problem and add a nice finder's fee. The guy I bought my Uzi from sold a Sendra for $10k and a Colt m16a1 for $12k. a month ago
The deals are out there, you just have to know where to look. I've looked, they are not here... I am not super connected with gun people, but I am probably better connected than most. I think AZ being a state with a huge amount of population growth over the last decade, there is just not a surplus of NFA guns in state. We esp get a lot of refugees from states with gun bans so when they come here, they probably go apeshit and buy everything up. |
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Posted: 6/22/2012 3:28:01 PM
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I keep monitoring M16 prices.
I don't think clones are worth buying anymore. When they were $9K or 10K during the price dip of 2010, they were worth it. But now I think it's better to get a genuine Colt. If neither gun is a bargain, then i think it's better to invest the extra for the Colt. |
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Posted: 7/10/2012 9:51:08 AM
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Posted: 7/12/2012 1:28:06 PM
My Sendra Bushmaster is now SPF as of this morning on Sturmgewehr for $14,000 and he is paying shipping and both taxes.
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Posted: 7/12/2012 4:27:14 PM
Originally Posted By EagleArmsHBAR:
My Sendra Bushmaster is now SPF as of this morning on Sturmgewehr for $14,000 and he is paying shipping and both taxes. Congrats ... though you may regret it some day. Either way, you're still in The Club. 
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Posted: 7/16/2012 3:26:24 AM
There is a Bushmaster converted Sendra lower on Subguns right now for $19,995. Wow, prices (at least asking prices) are slightly out of control.
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Posted: 7/16/2012 10:13:01 PM
Originally Posted By JoshNC:
There is a Bushmaster converted Sendra lower on Subguns right now for $19,995. Wow, prices (at least asking prices) are slightly out of control. I wouldn't say they are out of control. People have always fished. Some times they get bites. Some times they don't. Shit, I had no hope of getting any where near what I listed mine for, and yet it sold. In the first listing of it. Guess I should have asked a bit more for it. |
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Posted: 7/16/2012 11:49:51 PM
Originally Posted By damcv62: Originally Posted By JoshNC: There is a Bushmaster converted Sendra lower on Subguns right now for $19,995. Wow, prices (at least asking prices) are slightly out of control. I wouldn't say they are out of control. People have always fished. Some times they get bites. Some times they don't. Shit, I had no hope of getting any where near what I listed mine for, and yet it sold. In the first listing of it. Guess I should have asked a bit more for it. I had one other buyer at $14,000 if this one backed out. |
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Posted: 7/17/2012 7:47:12 AM
Originally Posted By EagleArmsHBAR:
Originally Posted By damcv62:
Originally Posted By JoshNC:
There is a Bushmaster converted Sendra lower on Subguns right now for $19,995. Wow, prices (at least asking prices) are slightly out of control. I wouldn't say they are out of control. People have always fished. Some times they get bites. Some times they don't. Shit, I had no hope of getting any where near what I listed mine for, and yet it sold. In the first listing of it. Guess I should have asked a bit more for it. I had one other buyer at $14,000 if this one backed out. But you had no buyers at $16,000 which is what you started at. And $14,000 is a far cry from $19,995. |
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Posted: 7/17/2012 8:55:16 AM
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True. The buyer at $14,000 was prepared to pay me $14,995 because that is what it was still listed for on Sturmgewehr. I thought I had lowered that price to $14,000 so I told him to send me a wire for that amount. Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuu......
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Posted: 7/17/2012 10:49:07 AM
Originally Posted By damcv62:
Originally Posted By JoshNC:
There is a Bushmaster converted Sendra lower on Subguns right now for $19,995. Wow, prices (at least asking prices) are slightly out of control. I wouldn't say they are out of control. People have always fished. Some times they get bites. Some times they don't. Shit, I had no hope of getting any where near what I listed mine for, and yet it sold. In the first listing of it. Guess I should have asked a bit more for it. You guys that climbed into the lifeboats in 1995 don't quite grasp how icy the water is these days. If you are just starting out, building a NFA collection, and you see a M16 or UZI for sale within $1000 of current market value, you don't hesitate, you just instantly buy it. If you don't do that, what happens is that you spend months browsing the boards looking for a "good deal", and the inflated price you refused to pay 2 months ago is now the bargain price. Because M16s and UZIs are instant sellers. M11/9s are also just starting to go into "instant sell" mode. I hesitate to lump them into the same group as M16s and UZIs, but the allergens for a feeding frenzy are there already. |
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Posted: 7/17/2012 11:34:58 AM
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Originally Posted By cyborg543:
Originally Posted By damcv62:
Originally Posted By JoshNC:
There is a Bushmaster converted Sendra lower on Subguns right now for $19,995. Wow, prices (at least asking prices) are slightly out of control. I wouldn't say they are out of control. People have always fished. Some times they get bites. Some times they don't. Shit, I had no hope of getting any where near what I listed mine for, and yet it sold. In the first listing of it. Guess I should have asked a bit more for it. You guys that climbed into the lifeboats in 1995 don't quite grasp how icy the water is these days. If you are just starting out, building a NFA collection, and you see a M16 or UZI for sale within $1000 of current market value, you don't hesitate, you just instantly buy it. If you don't do that, what happens is that you spend months browsing the boards looking for a "good deal", and the inflated price you refused to pay 2 months ago is now the bargain price. Because M16s and UZIs are instant sellers. M11/9s are also just starting to go into "instant sell" mode. I hesitate to lump them into the same group as M16s and UZIs, but the allergens for a feeding frenzy are there already. Life boats in 1995????  
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Posted: 7/17/2012 12:09:46 PM
Originally Posted By cyborg543:
You guys that climbed into the lifeboats in 1995 don't quite grasp how icy the water is these days. If you are just starting out, building a NFA collection, and you see a M16 or UZI for sale within $1000 of current market value, you don't hesitate, you just instantly buy it. If you don't do that, what happens is that you spend months browsing the boards looking for a "good deal", and the inflated price you refused to pay 2 months ago is now the bargain price. Because M16s and UZIs are instant sellers. M11/9s are also just starting to go into "instant sell" mode. I hesitate to lump them into the same group as M16s and UZIs, but the allergens for a feeding frenzy are there already. Pearls of wisdom, gentlemen. Pearls of wisdom! My first three MGs are the Uzi, MAC11A1 and M16 (still waiting on that one). The aftermarket uppers, particularly the Suomi magazine based ones, I think are driving M11/9 and M11A1 costs upwards. Those uppers finally do away with the worst part of that design, which is the Zytel magazine. |
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