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I was under the impression the HK21 was lighter, at least it just looks lighter, checked online and apparently they are very close in weight. Any idea why the recoil is so much harder on the HK? Also, any opinion on the other HK belt feds such as the G3-B or 51-B?
I think i would enjoy a M60E6 more than the HK21 but at the same time a HK sear is cheaper than an M60 and would open up the possibility for MP5s and other MGs down the line.
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Im finally finished building my M16 w/ MK18 upper(took 2+ years) and am looking for a new gun/project to work on over the next few years and am thinking something belt fed.
What are all of the options for a transferable Belt fed MGs that can shoot 7.62 Nato?
M60E6 looks pretty cool but a little heavy.
HK23 seems light weight and modern, im not familiar with HKs though. Also can you just buy the gun or is a HK sear with Semi-auto host the only route for this?
M1919A4 ehh, it looks cool but im not a big fan of guns that requires tripods or are crew served.
Other options?
I own all three of those, and the M60E6 isn't heavy for the type of gun that it is, and it's the lightest out of those 3 options. It can be comfortably shot from the shoulder. If I could only have one, it'd be the M60E6. Portable and comfortable to shoot. The HK21E is fun, but is heavier and the recoil is much harsher. The 1919 is a great gun, but it is what it is. Old, reliable, heavy, and really a tripod gun. I love mine, but once again, if I had to sell two, the M60E6 would stay with me.
I was under the impression the HK21 was lighter, at least it just looks lighter, checked online and apparently they are very close in weight. Any idea why the recoil is so much harder on the HK? Also, any opinion on the other HK belt feds such as the G3-B or 51-B?
I think i would enjoy a M60E6 more than the HK21 but at the same time a HK sear is cheaper than an M60 and would open up the possibility for MP5s and other MGs down the line.
I had the same question you had maybe 7 or 8 years ago. I had a couple HK sears at the time so a HK21 was the a much cheaper option. I ended up talking to Mike at TSC machine and he told me, get the M60 if you can afford it as it is a nicer shooting gun. This was coming from a guy who builds HK21s for a living.
The actual weight difference between the two guns (HK21 and M60E4/E6) isn't that different. In my estimation the reason the M60 is better off the shoulder is because as others have mentioned it has a lower cyclic rate, is gas operated, and also is somewhat of a bullpup design so the weight is more balanced over the center of the pistol grip.
On the HK21 the only weight to the rear of the pistol grip is the plastic stock and buffer (inside the stock). The whole feed mech, trunion, bolt carrier, barrel, etc. is all out of the front on the 21. On the 60 a decent part of the receiver is aft of the grip, the feed mech, bolt carrier, and top cover is directly over the pistol grip, and the trunion is only a couple inches forward.
I got an M60E4 (E6 didn't exist at the time) and its been great. I have an HK23EK clone on order with Mike Otte and will get the 21 conversion kit for it. I prefer to shoot from the shoulder (vs. bipod or tripod) so I ended up with the K variant to keep the weight more centered/balanced for off-hand shooting. While the K only removes a pound or so, its a pound that is the farthest forward of the gun.
Even though its not a factory gun, somewhere deep down I still want a HK51B just for fun.