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Posted: 12/5/2008 10:14:49 PM
I've had my 86 M-11 for around 2 years. I purchased a LAGE upper shortly after, (Lage is the best guy I've ever deal with). My Sten, Uzi and HK sear would go before my M-11. I always thought the little mac were trash, before I bought one. Now, I'm thinking of trying to trade my Uzi for 2 Macs. The only gun I shoot more is my 16.
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Posted: 11/3/2009 11:06:09 PM
hope they are, i've got one on the way
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Posted: 2/12/2010 12:51:18 PM
Dumb question I am sure, but if you buy a transferrable auto M11, is there any part that could break that you can't replace? I guess my question could be reworded as what is the transferrable part in the eyes of the ATF?
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Posted: 2/12/2010 4:20:45 PM
The reciever. There are plenty of places that can fix them with welding, but if it were completely destroyed (not likely) you can't just make a new one.
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Posted: 2/22/2010 6:15:43 AM
Hey Tony, great info about the M11 on the very first page! Do you have any experience with the powder springs M10? I just bought one, and it's a low serial 1972 model. Am I likely to have similar issues to the ones you described at the begining of the thread? It's an M10/9.
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Posted: 4/17/2010 9:23:40 PM
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hope they are, i've got one on the way Finally took my NIB 86 M11/9 out yesterday and it ran like a top. 2 Jams out of 150 rounds using cheap brown bear ammo and a recon ordance PAM2 mag. |
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Posted: 4/26/2010 11:49:34 PM
Just bought an '86 SWD M11/9 this morning, hopefully it runs strong when my stamps come in - I also got a MIMS 9mm suppressor to go along with it.
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Just bought an '86 SWD M11/9 this morning, hopefully it runs strong when my stamps come in - I also got a MIMS 9mm suppressor to go along with it. well? |
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Posted: 9/10/2010 9:20:51 PM
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Originally Posted By gfunk:
Originally Posted By gfunk:
hope they are, i've got one on the way Finally took my NIB 86 M11/9 out yesterday and it ran like a top. 2 Jams out of 150 rounds using cheap brown bear ammo and a recon ordance PAM2 mag. Took it out again this past weekend a modified 70 round suomi drum someone made for me to test it. Had 1 FTE about half way thru, but it's a cool drum!! Then ran it w/ a drop in rate reducer and some regular recon ord mags w/ n hicups at all. Love that little thing, need to upgrade my stock and get my Lage 22 conversion for it. Video of Converted Suomi Drum |
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Posted: 9/27/2010 4:41:40 PM
Make sure to get a Lage .22 conversion kit, either the stock one or for the Max11. They rock.
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Posted: 9/27/2010 8:07:46 PM
Originally Posted By Chas8008:
Originally Posted By Andrapos:
Just bought an '86 SWD M11/9 this morning, hopefully it runs strong when my stamps come in - I also got a MIMS 9mm suppressor to go along with it. well? Still waiting on ATF, had to transfer on a Form 3 to dealer then Form 4 to me. At least I'm pending! Got on the list for a Lage .22 kit for Max11, and as soon as the stamps come in I will be grabbing his slow-fire upper. |
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Posted: 9/27/2010 8:20:53 PM
Originally Posted By Andrapos:
Originally Posted By Chas8008:
Originally Posted By Andrapos:
Just bought an '86 SWD M11/9 this morning, hopefully it runs strong when my stamps come in - I also got a MIMS 9mm suppressor to go along with it. well? Still waiting on ATF, had to transfer on a Form 3 to dealer then Form 4 to me. At least I'm pending! Got on the list for a Lage .22 kit for Max11, and as soon as the stamps come in I will be grabbing his slow-fire upper. cool, is it at your inroute to your dealer or you? I am getting a Mac 10/9 Myself  |
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Originally Posted By Chas8008:
Originally Posted By Andrapos:
Originally Posted By Chas8008:
Originally Posted By Andrapos:
Just bought an '86 SWD M11/9 this morning, hopefully it runs strong when my stamps come in - I also got a MIMS 9mm suppressor to go along with it. well? Still waiting on ATF, had to transfer on a Form 3 to dealer then Form 4 to me. At least I'm pending! Got on the list for a Lage .22 kit for Max11, and as soon as the stamps come in I will be grabbing his slow-fire upper. cool, is it at your inroute to your dealer or you? I am getting a Mac 10/9 Myself It's at the dealer, just waiting on the pending form 4 to me. Hopefully not too much longer of a wait, I sent the forms in at the end of July (form 3 took 2 months, from late April to late June!) I've been able to fondle it a few times while picking up other stuff. You are gonna love the Mac! If you don't, sell it to me  |
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So for all those thinking of getting an M11/9, DON"T DO IT! I'm so tired of this POS. I've been having SOOOOO many problems with it I'm thinking of selling it, just to be done with it and not waste any more money on it.
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So for all those thinking of getting an M11/9, DON"T DO IT! I'm so tired of this POS. I've been having SOOOOO many problems with it I'm thinking of selling it, just to be done with it and not waste any more money on it. What mags are you using? I've found 100% of my issues come from mags (feed angle/catch height) except for ejector rods that Richard replaced but, I'm sure, I bent them up by over inserting some mags OR careless handling (likely) of bolts that I carry as alternatives (Tactical/Speed/Stock). Never had a problem w/mine I couldn't solve with the help of arfcom, uzitalk or Richard Lage. |
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Posted: 11/9/2010 10:51:13 AM
With new stock setup. Runs like a champ w/ this HK style upper and the drop in rate reducer (DIRR). I may sell this upper and rate reducer to fund another project. I really do like the reduced rate of fire though in such a small package. What to do.....
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Posted: 1/15/2011 6:13:09 PM
I just wish someone would start making some parts for the .380 subguns
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Posted: 1/16/2011 8:37:00 AM
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Originally Posted By 8mmDale:
Hey Tony, great info about the M11 on the very first page! Do you have any experience with the powder springs M10? I just bought one, and it's a low serial 1972 model. Am I likely to have similar issues to the ones you described at the begining of the thread? It's an M10/9. thanks for the wisdom! I'm not Tony K but I've met him 
The M10/9 was the last MAC that I purchase out of a trio of MAC's: M11, M10/45 and M10/9. There is no doubt that the M10/9 is the most over-engineered of the group with a .45 frame firing the 9mm cartridge. It runs on Richard Lage's Suomi 36 round LNIB mags that'll be as near 100% as you could find anywhere with any gun. My MAX11 runs great and my M10/45 is a beast that I've learned to control,and run with a can most of the time so its amazingly smoother, but the M10/9 is the most prototypical machine gun in the group: It runs fast and is just hard enough to control that you feel challenged by it but yet you'll soon master it. If you have a good deal on one and want to pass, I'll take it! |
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Posted: 1/18/2011 9:41:07 AM
Theres a new upper coming out for them. Since it doesn't use the orriginal feeding system or mags I imagine it'll make it a much more dependable gun. MAX-31
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Theres a new upper coming out for them. Since it doesn't use the orriginal feeding system or mags I imagine it'll make it a much more dependable gun. MAX-31 This^...upper is the tip of the spear as far as Richard Lage is concerned. If you can't get an M11/MAX11 to run right (and you should be able to w/little effort) I don't see how you plan on running the newest Lage product. Machine gunnin requires a little wrenching or filing once in a while and A LOT of maintenance. But the mags are the key: Name a MAC and I'll tell you what we've all found to be the best mags out there for it. |
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Originally Posted By Chas8008: Originally Posted By Andrapos: Originally Posted By Chas8008: Originally Posted By Andrapos: Just bought an '86 SWD M11/9 this morning, hopefully it runs strong when my stamps come in - I also got a MIMS 9mm suppressor to go along with it. well? Still waiting on ATF, had to transfer on a Form 3 to dealer then Form 4 to me. At least I'm pending! Got on the list for a Lage .22 kit for Max11, and as soon as the stamps come in I will be grabbing his slow-fire upper. cool, is it at your inroute to your dealer or you? I am getting a Mac 10/9 Myself Get yours yet? I finally got mine last month and have been shooting the snot out of it - no issues with the gun at all, it runs 100%! One of the Zytel mags wouldn't hold more than 4-5 rounds because it was so worn, but a quick heat/bend/freeze cured that ailment. Now it's time for the Lage kit!  |
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Posted: 2/19/2011 6:58:38 PM
Originally Posted By Andrapos: not yet,Originally Posted By Chas8008: Originally Posted By Andrapos: Originally Posted By Chas8008: Originally Posted By Andrapos: Just bought an '86 SWD M11/9 this morning, hopefully it runs strong when my stamps come in - I also got a MIMS 9mm suppressor to go along with it. well? Still waiting on ATF, had to transfer on a Form 3 to dealer then Form 4 to me. At least I'm pending! Got on the list for a Lage .22 kit for Max11, and as soon as the stamps come in I will be grabbing his slow-fire upper. cool, is it at your inroute to your dealer or you? I am getting a Mac 10/9 Myself Get yours yet? I finally got mine last month and have been shooting the snot out of it - no issues with the gun at all, it runs 100%! One of the Zytel mags wouldn't hold more than 4-5 rounds because it was so worn, but a quick heat/bend/freeze cured that ailment. Now it's time for the Lage kit! http://andrapos.com/Misc/M11MIMS3.jpg day 81 |
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Posted: 2/19/2011 7:39:33 PM
I need to send my gun in to Practical Solutions. I haven't had it running right in quite some time. I think my feed ramp is off. I've been told how to fix that, but I don't want to mess with it. I'd rather leave that for someone who knows what they're doing.
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