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Posted: 1/28/2007 7:29:31 PM
I have to agree with StealthyBlagga, I love my MAX-11. Can't be beat for the price. Here is my baby.



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Posted: 1/29/2007 11:42:02 PM
Thanks Tony K, this is just what I've been looking for.
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Posted: 1/30/2007 9:09:10 PM
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Posted: 1/31/2007 4:09:36 PM
I took the plunge and bought one recently. Who is the best source for Sten mag conversion and how much should I expect to pay?
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Posted: 2/2/2007 1:17:17 PM
For the price, this is the best sub-gun out there. As someone else pointed out, the mags are the issue after the MAX-11 kit. It you do the sten conversion, I would think you'd be reletively trouble free.

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Posted: 2/2/2007 5:53:25 PM
Bruh44... whose flashhider do you have on there ?
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Posted: 2/4/2007 9:30:11 PM
It's an Ameetec Arms, that I had Phil at PF Custom drill out so it would work for a 9mm.
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Posted: 2/12/2007 10:10:05 AM
My first NFA was/is a M-11/9. Mine didn't run so good at first, and I eventually figured out that it had trouble ejecting for a couple of reasons. One was that over time, the stock ejector rod bends slightly, and also mushrooms at the tip. If you clean up the tip and resquare it, that will get the empty pointing the right direction, out the ejection port. Also straighten out the ejector rod, get it as straight as possible. This isn't so hard cause the stock one is made of a soft metal. The next thing I had to do was enlarge the front of the ejection port by about .030". It was obvious that the empties had been hitting the inside of the port, cause they had actually bowed the upper receiver out just a little over time. I just put the stripped upper in a mill and made one cut. It went from running 95% to 100% with those 2 modifications.
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Posted: 2/12/2007 10:13:11 AM
I posted two different posts cause they address different needs.

Now that I have my M-11/9 running 100%, it decided to give me different grief. Now it is running away, and the bolt and sear appear to have worn. Can someone post a pic or 2 showing a new, or near new, bolt and sear? Specifically the areas where they contact? I am thinking of having at least the bolt welded up and that area hardened, but I do not know how much mine has worn down.

Thanks!
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Posted: 2/12/2007 11:02:47 AM
2-08-07....APPROVED!

The wait for the forms to get back to my dealer is infinitely longer then the wait for the ATF to approve them.


Pics coming!
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Posted: 2/12/2007 11:37:25 AM

Originally Posted By mjm:
I posted two different posts cause they address different needs.

Now that I have my M-11/9 running 100%, it decided to give me different grief. Now it is running away, and the bolt and sear appear to have worn. Can someone post a pic or 2 showing a new, or near new, bolt and sear? Specifically the areas where they contact? I am thinking of having at least the bolt welded up and that area hardened, but I do not know how much mine has worn down.

Thanks!

I don't have pix, but these are not precision instruments -- you shouldn't need dimensions. The contact points on both the sear and bolt are straight angles, and they round off at the points. So you can just look at the base of the notch and weld it up until it makes a square angle. My guy used mild steel welding rod, 307s (er70ws), then filed to shape. We held off on hardening to see how it would last, and it never rounded off again, so I'm not sure hardening is really neccessary.
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Posted: 2/12/2007 11:38:18 AM

Originally Posted By anr6t:
2-08-07....APPROVED!

The wait for the forms to get back to my dealer is infinitely longer then the wait for the ATF to approve them.


Pics coming!

Congrats! Now start/keep buying mags and ammo -- no matter how much you have, you'll need triple that!
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Posted: 2/12/2007 12:03:03 PM

Originally Posted By mjm:
Can someone post a pic or 2 showing a new, or near new, bolt and sear?


Here is a close up of my M11/9 sear. This is an aftermarket part from WGA:





The factory original rounded off - didn't get bad enough to run away, but I changed it out just in case. I've been very happy with the WGA parts I bought, though some others have reported dimensional and hardness issues with these parts too. Welding and reprofiling would work, but if I were you I'd look at the "monster sear" from Stoney Creek.
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Posted: 2/12/2007 12:12:29 PM
I think I remember hearing that the monster sear was full-auto only. I think it takes away the ability to go semi.
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Posted: 2/12/2007 1:08:50 PM
Found some more pics here: www.mac-11.net/

From the pics on the above site it appears my bolt may be ok. Comparing my sear to the pics above it looks as if the sear is the culprit. I'll check out the WGA sear. Cobray FA sears are $40, thats not too bad, but I imagine it will wear out again.

Thanks guys for the help!

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Posted: 2/13/2007 8:58:35 AM

Originally Posted By bruh44:
I think I remember hearing that the monster sear was full-auto only. I think it takes away the ability to go semi.


Correct - the current monster sear is designed specifically for the Stoney Creek Suomi upper (which is full-auto only). They are supposedly working on a select-fire version of the sear which will be available "soon".
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Posted: 2/13/2007 9:42:04 AM
This site may help you out too: uzitalk/mac10
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Posted: 2/20/2007 1:07:49 AM
So, despite the fact that this gun came to me without a functional buffer...



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Posted: 3/10/2007 8:32:58 PM
I had no problems until 10k plus rounds! I ordered a lage upper and it will be here next week. It will be a new gun and does not look all jerry rigged up. I use zytels and recons. Zytels are great until they are not. They will spread and ammo will pop out while cyling. This can cause a double feed and a kaboom at 1200 RPM. I have replace my sear and it is nearly due again. My trigger spring is weak and I tweaked it, a new one is on order.
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Posted: 5/18/2007 3:44:49 PM
Mine runs marginally with a macjack, just fine without it. My zytels are the problem, I believe. I'm trying to find better mags, or perhaps going to consider a sten conversion.
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Posted: 5/18/2007 6:49:49 PM

Originally Posted By Zack3g:
Mine runs marginally with a macjack, just fine without it. My zytels are the problem, I believe. I'm trying to find better mags, or perhaps going to consider a sten conversion.


I was pretty close to getting the sten conversion myself until I posted on uzitalk, and got this back: uzitalk
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Posted: 5/23/2007 4:02:59 AM
That thread didn't mention two of my major beefs with the sten mag conversion - the grip is enlarged (which is a big deal to me with my smaller hands, far less confortable) and - the OEM stock or anything used the full length rails, cannot be retracted with a magazine in place. If your hands are normal to large and you don't use the cheesy OEM stock, neither will matter I suppose.
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Posted: 5/25/2007 2:23:50 PM
I had a M11/9 cobray it was a DANGEROUS POS! Got it NIB for $600.00 shot it 6 times. Some times in would do a 3-5 round bust in semi, some times it would even run a whole mag in full auto and some times it even would go off all by its self! I let one other person who was very experinced shoot it once to try and figure out what was wrong with it, when I handed it to him "empty of course" I told him to hold it like a rattle snake because in my opinon it was just as dangerous. I replaced all of the internals and it then seemed ok but I still sold it to a dealer and was glad to be rid of in before someone got hurt of worse.....
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Posted: 5/30/2007 11:57:01 PM

Originally Posted By M4-Daddy:
I had a M11/9 cobray it was a DANGEROUS POS! Got it NIB for $600.00 shot it 6 times. Some times in would do a 3-5 round bust in semi, some times it would even run a whole mag in full auto and some times it even would go off all by its self! I let one other person who was very experinced shoot it once to try and figure out what was wrong with it, when I handed it to him "empty of course" I told him to hold it like a rattle snake because in my opinon it was just as dangerous. I replaced all of the internals and it then seemed ok but I still sold it to a dealer and was glad to be rid of in before someone got hurt of worse.....


If you replaced the internals and still had the problem then it was most likely the bolt that was the problem. I've had mine for a month now and absolutely love it.!!!!!!
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Posted: 6/2/2007 11:21:19 PM
I should have never clicked this....

Is there major quality difference between LAGE and Stony Creek. I'm kinda partial to LAGE as it stands now.
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