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Posted: 5/2/2012 10:57:06 AM
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Posted: 5/2/2012 11:16:02 AM
Yes and yes.
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NAM
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Posted: 5/2/2012 11:29:49 AM
Also expensive as hell, considering what it actually is.
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Posted: 5/2/2012 12:13:02 PM
It makes a BIG boom.
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Posted: 5/2/2012 12:19:59 PM
[Last Edit: 5/2/2012 12:24:41 PM by The_Hammer]
From http://www.tannerite.com/frequent-questions/tannerite-exploding-targets/
Tannerite is a binary explosive used primarily as a target for firearms practice. Tannerite is unique in that it is exceptionally stable when subjected to less severe forces such as a hammer blow or being dropped. It is more than 1000 times safer than ordinary black powder since it is not flammable and can not be initiated by any kind of flame or electricity. It is supplied as two powders which are combined to produce the explosive. Tannerite is a trademarked name, and binary exploding targets are a patented invention by Daniel J. Tanner/Oregon. Tannerite Company recommends using 0.5-pound (0.23 kg) preparations of the substance, which should detonate when shot by a high-powered rifle. Small caliber rim-fire or slow moving pistol ammunition will not initiate a detonation. Tannerite detonations occur at a very high velocity, producing a large explosion and cloud of water vapor. It may be useful for persons who are firing at long ranges; in this scenario, a long-range rifle shooter places targets downrange, retreats to his firing position, and fires. The shooter does not have to walk down range to see if he has a hit, the Tannerite will detonate and serve as an indicator. Since the two components are not explosive until mixed, they can legally be purchased in the USA without a license. They can be legally used for sporting purposes in conjunction with small arms, just like black powder and other exempt sporting powder. The federal government, not the state, governs the manufacture of explosives. They specifically exempt the need for an explosives manufacturing license in five separate statutes. In the CFR (Code of Federal Regulations) Publication 5400. Q&A section, question #48 expressly addresses that a license that a license is not needed for personal, non-commercial manufacture and use of binary explosives. |
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Posted: 5/2/2012 12:31:56 PM
Originally Posted By NAM:
Also expensive as hell, considering what it actually is. Unless you buy the base components and roll it yourself. |
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Posted: 5/2/2012 12:32:57 PM
WOW!
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NAM
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Posted: 5/2/2012 12:45:17 PM
Originally Posted By jeffco55:
Originally Posted By NAM:
Also expensive as hell, considering what it actually is. Unless you buy the base components and roll it yourself. My point exactly  |
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Posted: 5/2/2012 1:51:31 PM
where do you buy the base components?
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Posted: 5/2/2012 2:03:43 PM
Originally Posted By xachary82:
where do you buy the base components? Many places. They're not all THAT uncommon to find. |
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Posted: 5/2/2012 2:05:23 PM
Originally Posted By NAM:
Originally Posted By xachary82:
where do you buy the base components? Many places. They're not all THAT uncommon to find. well its not illegal to buy them so tell me... obviously it is ok to buy and mix yourself |
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NAM
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Posted: 5/2/2012 2:07:22 PM
Originally Posted By xachary82:
Originally Posted By NAM:
Originally Posted By xachary82:
where do you buy the base components? Many places. They're not all THAT uncommon to find. well its not illegal to buy them so tell me... obviously it is ok to buy and mix yourself You asked WHERE to buy them. Not what they are.
The exact components have been posted many times here, along with where to find the ingredients, and what to look for. Well worth the cost of a membership. |
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Posted: 5/2/2012 2:18:40 PM
Originally Posted By NAM:
Originally Posted By xachary82:
Originally Posted By NAM:
Originally Posted By xachary82:
where do you buy the base components? Many places. They're not all THAT uncommon to find. well its not illegal to buy them so tell me... obviously it is ok to buy and mix yourself You asked WHERE to buy them. Not what they are.
The exact components have been posted many times here, along with where to find the ingredients, and what to look for. Well worth the cost of a membership. yes thats because i know what it is. I just want to know where to find it. most of the NH4NO3 I see has calcium added... and im no chemist so i dont feel comfy adding chems to potentially dangerous cocktails |
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NAM
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Posted: 5/2/2012 2:28:53 PM
Originally Posted By xachary82:
yes thats because i know what it is. I just want to know where to find it. most of the NH4NO3 I see has calcium added... and im no chemist so i dont feel comfy adding chems to potentially dangerous cocktails There was a .pdf floating around a while back with details. Don't have a link handy, but I know it was posted here somewhere. Might have luck on google as well. Some have reported that their local feed mills actually have it. Definitly getting harder to find, but not impossible. Few online sources as well. |
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Posted: 5/2/2012 2:49:55 PM
Originally Posted By NAM:
Originally Posted By xachary82:
yes thats because i know what it is. I just want to know where to find it. most of the NH4NO3 I see has calcium added... and im no chemist so i dont feel comfy adding chems to potentially dangerous cocktails There was a .pdf floating around a while back with details. Don't have a link handy, but I know it was posted here somewhere. Might have luck on google as well. Some have reported that their local feed mills actually have it. Definitly getting harder to find, but not impossible. Few online sources as well. alright thanks |
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Posted: 5/3/2012 11:01:59 PM
youtube has a lot of different types you can make. i got a few good recipes off there.
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Posted: 5/13/2012 2:45:08 AM
Google is your friend
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Posted: 5/16/2012 11:36:26 PM
[Last Edit: 5/17/2012 12:09:42 AM by readytorock556]
for tannerite you need ammonium nitrate 95- 90% mix with 5 to 10% of al powder and antimony, a good al powder can be found at starmolecule.com. the al there is 1.5 micron really fine and will make the tannerite fairly sensitive, so much you could set it of with a m-80(some will tell u that's a lie, but they're full of shit) the antimony will sensitize it even more, so much it will detonate it with a 22. When mixing the al and antimony only use 1.5 part to 8.5 al. Also wear a respirator when mixing. The 2 metals can pass through the blood/brain barrier. antimony can be found at firechemical.com. other tannerite makers use zirconium hydride, but good luck finding it, antimony is more easy to come by. be careful though. Instead of antimony u can use elemental sulfur, but it will make it crazy sensitive. Don't kill yourself, and yes everything I just told you is legal as shit. Just don't use a m80 of 70% potassium perchlorate and 30% al powder as a detonator or booster, cuz that's illegal. Another sensitizer is a chemical known as realgar, it is available, but way too fucking sensitive. you essentially will be making a big fucking globe torpedo from the 1950's era and will likely die placing it on a tree stump before you shoot it!
If you want tannerite to really go boom, take the total weight of ammonium nitrate. subtract 15% and add 15% of ammonium perchlorate, grind the two in a coffee grinder separate from each other, mix all the shit together, including the antimony and aluminum in a container and fucking boom!!! U can also toss in a couple grams of titanium sponge to give it a a few sparks but it will make it more incendiary. If you have access to ice packs that contain ammonium nitrate they work well to, really isn't that much difference in the boom! |
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Posted: 5/22/2012 10:27:06 PM
You dont have to have the antimony. It will go off fine with just al powder and 35-0-0. The Antimony could make it too sensitive.
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Posted: 5/23/2012 12:19:38 AM
Originally Posted By FloggingMolly:
You dont have to have the antimony. It will go off fine with just al powder and 35-0-0. The Antimony could make it too sensitive. isn't it 34-0-0? |
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Posted: 5/23/2012 1:34:02 AM
Originally Posted By FloggingMolly:
You dont have to have the antimony. It will go off fine with just al powder and 35-0-0. The Antimony could make it too sensitive. if you want it to go off with a shotgun,handgun or 22lr you better use it. |
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Posted: 5/23/2012 8:27:17 AM
[Last Edit: 5/23/2012 8:27:46 AM by FloggingMolly]
Correct, you are sensitizing the AN with antimony flash. Standard tannerite doesnt have it, thats why it takes a rifle rd to set it off. You can also do the same thing with stadard flash which is a tad more safer than antimony flash.
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Posted: 5/23/2012 10:44:00 AM
Originally Posted By FloggingMolly:
Correct, you are sensitizing the AN with antimony flash. Standard tannerite doesnt have it, thats why it takes a rifle rd to set it off. You can also do the same thing with stadard flash which is a tad more safer than antimony flash. Standard tannerite uses zirconium hydrite with the catalyst, but I can't find it anywhere, so I tend to sway more to the extreme side and dash a little atm on it. |
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Posted: 5/23/2012 10:48:39 AM
Yes, but that basically just adds sparks to the mix doesnt sensitize it any more than just straight AN/AL.
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Posted: 5/23/2012 11:11:58 AM
it adds sensitivity, i did a flash hammer test. Titanium adds the spark factor.
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Posted: 5/23/2012 2:02:56 PM
I disagree, however this is not the forum for that. I will say this though, the patent says zirconium not zirconium hydrite or hydroxide.
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