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Posted: 5/26/2017 10:04:28 AM EDT
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So many good cans, I don't think you can go wrong with the BIG names. But......
I like Griffin Alpha/Paladin for 300blk. User serviceable makes sense for lots of subsonic shooting. Plus, love taper mount options. Silencerco omega, with direct thread and flat endcap it's pretty short and light. |
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Posted: 5/26/2017 10:05:19 AM EDT
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Supers/Subs or both?
Are you going to try to tuck it under a hand-guard? are you going to use it on other hosts? |
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Posted: 5/26/2017 10:05:24 AM EDT
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Do you want short?
From shortest to longest. Rugged Razor Dead Air Sandman S Griffin RECCE 7 Rugged Surge |
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Posted: 5/26/2017 10:18:27 AM EDT
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Something like the Omega may be a good choice in terms of size, weight, and performance on .300 BLK.
This will be your first can? Any idea what other hosts you'd be looking to use? |
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Posted: 5/26/2017 10:29:43 AM EDT
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Supers/Subs or both? Are you going to try to tuck it under a hand-guard? are you going to use it on other hosts? I know they are different bullets for different social situations I am looking at probably 8-8.5" handguards so I will say it will be no more than partially under the handguard. Think half or less. |
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Posted: 5/26/2017 10:30:46 AM EDT
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Something like the Omega may be a good choice in terms of size, weight, and performance on .300 BLK. This will be your first can? Any idea what other hosts you'd be looking to use? But for now will likely stay on the BLK. |
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Posted: 5/26/2017 10:31:31 AM EDT
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Do you want short? From shortest to longest. Rugged Razor Dead Air Sandman S Griffin RECCE 7 Rugged Surge |
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Posted: 5/26/2017 11:00:45 AM EDT
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Omega direct thread with flat cap would be short and light. Also offers alot of versatility since it's gonna be your only suppresor for a while.
Quietest right now for 300blk look at the sig titanium offerings. (Although I think they are a little long for a pistol AR). The 'Q' suppressors look like a good 300blk choice also because they are fatter at 1.7" diameter like the sigs. The larger diameter helps quiet subsonic 300 even better. But this would limit choices for rails if your planning to tuck it under the handgaurd. The Omega 9k and 45k can be used on 300 sub and supers plus pistols. These wont be as quiet as a dedicated rifle can but they would be compact and super light. Lots of good choices and have fun researching. If you know anyone with a suppressor try to listen to it before you purchase. |
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Posted: 5/26/2017 11:03:47 AM EDT
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Something like the Omega may be a good choice in terms of size, weight, and performance on .300 BLK. This will be your first can? Any idea what other hosts you'd be looking to use? |
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Posted: 5/26/2017 11:58:10 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: and a 10.3 .223 Wylde pistol and a 9mm AR pistol. I have considered one for handguns but I am not sure I want to be moving the suppressor back and forth off handgun and rifle/pistol a lot. |
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Posted: 5/26/2017 12:22:03 PM EDT
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An Omega with a Key-mo mount or Sandman S if you want to go under the hand guard.
If not I'd throw the Razor or Surge into the mix. |
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Posted: 5/26/2017 12:57:33 PM EDT
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YHM Phantom ULT
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Posted: 5/26/2017 2:01:41 PM EDT
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I'm using an Omega as my 300 Blackout can. Whenever I build the upper anyways.
Ultimately, I might get one of the big tubeless cans, like a Sig 762 or one of the new Q cans. But I'm very happy with the Omega at the moment. |
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Posted: 5/26/2017 3:13:46 PM EDT
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Lots of love for the Rugged and Omega
Is it weird if I say I don't like the looks of the Omega? I also am a little intrigued by the tubeless designs of the Sig and Q stuff. MAC did a review on the Sig 762 and it was VERY quiet. So that also a possibility. I think Kevin Brittingham and his products are going to be benchmarks in my opinion. The SIG and Q are both from his brain in different ways from what I can tell. |
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Posted: 5/26/2017 3:32:49 PM EDT
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I've listened to and shot the Sig 762 can on a 300 Blk MCX and it was spooky quiet. Sounded really, really good.
I chose the Omega mostly for versatility and aesthetics - for what I'm envisioning, I dunno if the baseball bat sized Sig or Q cans will really fit for what I'm wanting. But the performance can't be argued with. |
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Posted: 5/26/2017 3:41:35 PM EDT
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Lots of love for the Rugged and Omega Is it weird if I say I don't like the looks of the Omega? I also am a little intrigued by the tubeless designs of the Sig and Q stuff. MAC did a review on the Sig 762 and it was VERY quiet. So that also a possibility. I think Kevin Brittingham and his products are going to be benchmarks in my opinion. The SIG and Q are both from his brain in different ways from what I can tell.  You'll soon start buying niche products that excel in a certain category.
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Posted: 5/26/2017 3:45:03 PM EDT
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Anybody know any thing about Mack Bros?
Their 762S looks good. |
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Posted: 5/26/2017 4:32:22 PM EDT
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I've listened to and shot the Sig 762 can on a 300 Blk MCX and it was spooky quiet. Sounded really, really good. I chose the Omega mostly for versatility and aesthetics - for what I'm envisioning, I dunno if the baseball bat sized Sig or Q cans will really fit for what I'm wanting. But the performance can't be argued with. |
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Posted: 5/27/2017 4:08:01 PM EDT
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Anyone who owns both or has shot the Omega vs Sig 762 on 300blk subsonic. I know the Sig is quieter but how much so? I seen the Military Arms review of the Sig and Mac compared the Omega on meter and in the video the Omega had an almost 10db greater FRP than it's subsequent shots and those were still about 5db louder than the Sig. I didn't realize the Omega had that bad of a FRP. I know the Sig is a longer can but from all I've seen the Omega is decent for it's trade off in being light weight and shorter length. Thanks Just got my Omega and tested it this weekend. No FRP with subs on 300blk that I could detect. My 300blk is 10.5 inch barrel with the SiCo brake. I was using the ASR mount. Worked very well on 6.8spc and 300BLK supers also. POI shift for the 6.8 was under an inch. |
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Posted: 5/27/2017 4:24:46 PM EDT
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I think FRP is going to be very ammo and barrel length dependent. Just got my Omega and tested it this weekend. No FRP with subs on 300blk that I could detect. My 300blk is 10.5 inch barrel with the SiCo brake. I was using the ASR mount. Worked very well on 6.8spc and 300BLK supers also. POI shift for the 6.8 was under an inch. Here's the video of the Omega vs Sig 762 with the 10db FRP from the Omega on 300blk video |
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Posted: 5/28/2017 11:38:17 AM EDT
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I am narrowing things down to a Rugged Razor, and the Sandman S, and the Mack Brothers 762S
Are any of these decent choices? Am I overlooking any? |
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Posted: 5/28/2017 1:57:17 PM EDT
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I am narrowing things down to a Rugged Razor, and the Sandman S, and the Mack Brothers 762S Are any of these decent choices? Am I overlooking any? |
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Posted: 5/28/2017 6:46:03 PM EDT
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I have a Surge on my 8" 300 blk sbr now and it is quiet in the one and short configuration. I'm waiting on a Razor which will be dedicated to that rifle. I saw a review of the Surge short and the Razor on a 300 blk shooting subs and the guys shooting said it was not much difference db wise between the two.
Personally I like the Rugged cans because of the mount and they are built like a brick shit house. I've heard from numerous sources that their cs is top notch as well if there ever is an issue with their cans or mounts. I swap the Surge between several hosts and there is zero poi shift. i was concerned about this at first but I've been swapping it a lot lately between the 300 blk which I use for hd and pest control at home and a Tikka 260. My zero never changes on either rifle so I'm glad that I'll be getting another great can when the Razor is free. |
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Posted: 5/28/2017 7:58:55 PM EDT
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I'm not sure any of those will be particularly quiet cans. I like my Sandman a lot and wouldn't mind a Razor in the stable Which ones should I be looking at like I said its my first and I want to do it right the first time. |
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Posted: 5/28/2017 8:12:27 PM EDT
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Ok given my parameters @bradpierson26 Which ones should I be looking at like I said its my first and I want to do it right the first time. |
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Posted: 5/28/2017 8:46:45 PM EDT
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762sdn6 sounds great on 300blk. And they're cheap now days. Mount might not be the best but it isn't the worst. I haven't had issues with the 51t. I love my 8.2" ar with the sdn6. Really quiet
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Posted: 5/28/2017 9:11:12 PM EDT
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Depending on the distance to your gas block, Amtac may have an interesting option. Most of it goes over the barrel, and it only extends about 3.7" past the barrel. I haven't seen any independent reviews or metering, but it's on my short list just because of the minimal increase in length. I know they showed it on their FaceBook page on a 10" barrel--may be worth checking out.
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Posted: 5/28/2017 9:37:51 PM EDT
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More I look at Omega it really is a nice can also.
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Posted: 5/28/2017 9:52:01 PM EDT
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I currently have a Saker 7.62 for my 300blk. I plan on replacing it with a TBAC Ultra 7, possibly a 5. Expensive, but shorter than most of the choices already given and I want to believe lighter and potentially quieter.
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Posted: 5/28/2017 10:08:52 PM EDT
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I'll go against the grain. SiCo Hybrid since you can only afford one can and have many potential platforms.
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Posted: 5/28/2017 10:16:54 PM EDT
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The Omega still ranks well in the "what you get for size/weight" and versatility categories. If that's what's most important to you, then it's a great choice. I really like mine.
I've pretty much shot it exclusively with flat endcaps, both 300blk and 5.56, and think the tone is nice on each. My only POI shift is directly to 6:00 on my SR15, which seems to attributed to the relatively lightweight barrel. It's been repeatable. I've shot 223 at night, and there was no muzzle flash signature with AR223 ammo, haven't tried any others. I've not had any issues with the ASR mounts. I tend to hit the mounting contact flats with a bit of oil prior to shooting and they've always come off easily, even after cooling. It's simple to take apart. I have no complaints and would likely make the same choice today. |
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Posted: 5/29/2017 11:29:23 AM EDT
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I vote omega for versatility and subsonic 300blk performance
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Posted: 5/29/2017 5:30:48 PM EDT
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How's about what the military uses for its 5.56 & 7.62?
Probably a little less biased opinion. |
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Posted: 5/29/2017 5:50:34 PM EDT
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How's about what the military uses for its 5.56 & 7.62? Probably a little less biased opinion. |
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Posted: 5/29/2017 6:18:42 PM EDT
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Do you want the worst can for 300blk? Because that's how you get the worst can for 300blk I dont want to source my can from the lowest possible bidder. |
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Posted: 5/29/2017 9:40:37 PM EDT
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8.3" + Omega is an excellent combo.
The Razor is an excellent can, but can't touch the Omega for dB reduction 
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Posted: 5/30/2017 8:14:08 AM EDT
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My experience with cans for 300blk on 8" barrel:
Quietest to loudest Sandman L SDN6 Omega I was very dissapointed by the Omega and very surprised by the Sandman. |
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Posted: 5/30/2017 8:36:22 AM EDT
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My experience with cans for 300blk on 8" barrel: Quietest to loudest Sandman L SDN6 Omega I was very dissapointed by the Omega and very surprised by the Sandman. The S has my attention because of the shorter length. |
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Posted: 5/30/2017 9:32:41 AM EDT
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Silencer shop has some good deals on the Sandman L The S has my attention because of the shorter length. Sandman L would be quiet but your getting into long/heavy for a small gun. |
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Posted: 5/30/2017 9:44:59 AM EDT
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I agree that the Sandman S is a good can but not ideal for .300 BLK if you're looking for good suppression. it is incredibly well made however and great for 5.56 SBRs where it can take the abuse and take the "edge" off.
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Posted: 5/30/2017 10:30:16 AM EDT
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YHM Phantom ULT |
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Posted: 5/30/2017 5:09:19 PM EDT
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Keep em coming I am researching them all.
The omega sounds like a best of all possible worlds kind of rig. I also like the attachment systems of the Razor and Mack Brothers a lot. I understand how the NFAids works now because you always need one more to do what the other does not. LOL |
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Posted: 5/30/2017 8:09:16 PM EDT
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Your only buying 1 can and not going under the handguard get the Surge. Can go multiple lengths, different endcaps, great mount, best warranty. Suppression levels are great. I have a surge on my 300. If I only had 1 rifle can that's the one. If I had 3 id get the surge and the sandmans, oh wait that's what I did.
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Posted: 5/30/2017 9:32:36 PM EDT
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Your only buying 1 can and not going under the handguard get the Surge. Can go multiple lengths, different endcaps, great mount, best warranty. Suppression levels are great. I have a surge on my 300. If I only had 1 rifle can that's the one. If I had 3 id get the surge and the sandmans, oh wait that's what I did. |
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Posted: 5/30/2017 11:30:30 PM EDT
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Find a store where you can play with the Sandman mount, even if it might be a touch louder, i think you'll love the mounting system.
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Posted: 5/30/2017 11:47:50 PM EDT
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So many good cans, I don't think you can go wrong with the BIG names. But...... I like Griffin Alpha/Paladin for 300blk. User serviceable makes sense for lots of subsonic shooting. Plus, love taper mount options. Silencerco omega, with direct thread and flat endcap it's pretty short and light. Subsonic 300 is dirty. Almost 22lr dirty, just without the lead. |
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Posted: 5/31/2017 2:27:29 AM EDT
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8.3" + Omega is an excellent combo. The Razor is an excellent can, but can't touch the Omega for dB reduction However, after shooting both with flash hider mounts and looking down the bore... I'd say Razor for shorter barrels, Omega for longer barrels. |
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Posted: 5/31/2017 5:44:37 AM EDT
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How's about what the military uses for its 5.56 & 7.62? Probably a little less biased opinion. |
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Posted: 5/31/2017 9:29:28 AM EDT
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SOCOM doesn't source from the lowest bidder (unless you think FN, HK and AAC are cheap junk .gov contractors)... |
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Posted: 5/31/2017 11:28:29 AM EDT
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There is a lot of logic in this post. Subsonic 300 is dirty. Almost 22lr dirty, just without the lead. |
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