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Posted: 5/20/2017 10:58:54 PM EDT

How well do the Tavor SAR and X95 suppress? I have a Sig MCX with a SiCo saker K and I get gas to the eyes even with the suppressed setting on the piston.

I'm interested in the SAR and X95 for HD for the compactness. I have a Rugged Razor, another saker k, surge, and thunderbeast ultras 7 and 9. Would a .30 can lessen the gas to the face with the SAR and X95?

Posted: 5/21/2017 6:22:58 AM EDT

[#1]

My SAR gasses me out so much unsuppressed that I've given up on suppressing it.

Posted: 5/21/2017 10:23:38 AM EDT

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Can't speak to the Tavor but the X95 gives me a lot of gas to the face when shooting suppressed. I'm hoping the manticore arms gasketed port cover will help the problem.

Posted: 5/21/2017 3:58:06 PM EDT

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Can't speak to the Tavor but the X95 gives me a lot of gas to the face when shooting suppressed. I'm hoping the manticore arms gasketed port cover will help the problem.

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You might need to seal/gasket the rear end of the top rail, too. The ejection ports are the easy means of egress, once you seal one of them, the gas will find other exits more readily. The edge of the top rail can blast you right in the eyes.

Posted: 5/21/2017 7:32:53 PM EDT

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You might need to seal/gasket the rear end of the top rail, too. The ejection ports are the easy means of egress, once you seal one of them, the gas will find other exits more readily. The edge of the top rail can blast you right in the eyes.

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I just found this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDPJ0oWB9nQ

The OP claims he is using a SiCo Omega 762 and a Midwest Industries port cover; he says he can't tell a difference with the gas suppressed vs unsuppressed.

Has anyone else tried this?

Posted: 5/21/2017 7:46:32 PM EDT

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You might need to seal/gasket the rear end of the top rail, too. The ejection ports are the easy means of egress, once you seal one of them, the gas will find other exits more readily. The edge of the top rail can blast you right in the eyes.

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Thanks for the heads up. I'll look into that as well.

Posted: 5/21/2017 9:16:51 PM EDT

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i'm using a Gear Head Works TMF on mine, i applied a bead of RTV sealant around the inner lip and re-installed it.

i only get gas to the face/eyes if it's 100% calm out, using a specwar 556, and when shooting more than 10+ rounds fairly rapidly at that

Posted: 5/22/2017 1:07:46 AM EDT

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AAC M4-2000

MI enhanced gas port cover with some silicone sealant around it.

Shooting 55gr-77gr i get a couple shots of gas to the face randomly. Nothing that bother me at all.
If i had to shoot out a guess: out of 200rds i can smell the gas maybe a quarter of that. The rest of the time its like shooting unsuppressed.

Thats my experience though so take it for what is worth.

Anyone close with a tavor and can you can try out?

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Posted: 5/22/2017 3:54:21 AM EDT

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AAC M4-2000

MI enhanced gas port cover with some silicone sealant around it.

Shooting 55gr-77gr i get a couple shots of gas to the face randomly. Nothing that bother me at all.
If i had to shoot out a guess: out of 200rds i can smell the gas maybe a quarter of that. The rest of the time its like shooting unsuppressed.

Thats my experience though so take it for what is worth.

Anyone close with a tavor and can you can try out?

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/310007/20170518-152853-213698.JPG

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Unfortunately, no. Lgs has a rental, but no can on it.

Posted: 5/22/2017 1:45:32 PM EDT

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I had my X95 out yesterday with MI port Cover and a Specwar 556K shooting Federal 50gr JHP value packs. Holy crap was it gassy. Smoke was coming out of every crevice. No wind, so it lingered at my face.

Posted: 5/22/2017 5:01:26 PM EDT

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I shot a brand new SAR a while back and it was awful suppressed. Loud, gassy, burnt my eyes--- the ONLY semi auto to ever give me gas to face so bad I couldn't finish a mag.

Although I had a really negative experience, it's my understanding there are a bunch of tweaks you can do to make them really enjoyable suppressed. Someone also mentioned some sort of factory lube on it irritates the heck out of you when it burns off. So maybe if you get rid of the factory lube and change some of the parts (as stated above) it ends up being fantastic.

Posted: 5/24/2017 4:32:28 AM EDT

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Hmmm maybe I'll wait a few months and see how well the DT MDR does suppressed since it has a 3-position gas block.

Posted: 5/25/2017 10:12:19 AM EDT

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I ran my new Surefire 300 SPS on my X95 a few days ago. The gas leaking from the back end of the rail seemed to be the biggest offender. It was pretty gassy under rapid firing, but not that much worse than my 14.5'" AR with a Geissele charging handle. Both made my eyes sting a bit. Shot Wolf Gold and XM193 that day.

As far as function, the X95 ran flawlessly suppressed, as it has un-suppressed. To my ears (without protection), the X95 was a little quieter than my AR. The black slime leaking out of every crevice is making my FDE gun look much better.

Posted: 5/25/2017 4:25:06 PM EDT

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even with my 556 SOCOM Mini which is supposedly one of the least blowback cans available in that caliber, the SAR still gassed the heck out of me. My Aug is way better by comparison with the same can.

Posted: 5/29/2017 7:10:55 PM EDT

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It seems neither is worth getting if the intent is to shoot it suppressed all the time....

The Kel Tec RDB looks interesting, but it seems to be a unicorn.

Posted: 5/29/2017 10:47:02 PM EDT

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How about a Steyr AUG? Those seem to get favorable reports with suppressor usage.

Posted: 5/30/2017 7:50:07 PM EDT

[#16]

Converted mine to 9mm. Have the gearhead word flex on it and a ghost-m. Also run an aimpoint pro. Ridiculously awesome

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