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Posted: 4/24/2017 1:47:54 PM EDT
Some of you know we have a new silencer coming this week and if you want more info go to our industry page for the discussion.
Go here for just the tip |
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Posted: 4/24/2017 2:19:18 PM EDT
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What about those of us who want more than"just the tip"?
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Posted: 4/24/2017 2:35:45 PM EDT
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Question: am I paying sales tax on things on your website?
8.5%? |
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Posted: 4/24/2017 2:50:54 PM EDT
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I'll be interested to know when the new model will be shipping to dealers so we can plan accordingly. If it's 1 month out or 6 months out that's fine just trying to get a idea for guys looking to buy today.
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Posted: 4/24/2017 4:27:26 PM EDT
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What about those of us who want more than"just the tip"? 
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Posted: 4/24/2017 7:00:27 PM EDT
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Wait until Friday to get the full 6 inches! 
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Posted: 4/25/2017 8:33:06 AM EDT
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Halcyon
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Posted: 4/25/2017 8:42:32 AM EDT
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Posted: 4/25/2017 10:52:54 AM EDT
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Man I like the looks of it a lot. Bye bye another $400 plus stamp cost from my wallet
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Posted: 4/25/2017 11:10:04 AM EDT
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Man I like the looks of it a lot. Bye bye another $400 plus stamp cost from my wallet Definitely some neat new tech presented. I wonder how hard it is to maintain tolerance stackup with the removable/interchangeable thread mount. Because it will be compared with the Oculus (and based on mfr published numbers): 
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Posted: 4/25/2017 11:14:47 AM EDT
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Whelp, looks like the cat's out of the bag...
We are here LIVE for Q&A regarding the Halcyon! |
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Posted: 4/25/2017 11:24:22 AM EDT
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Definitely some neat new tech presented. I wonder how hard it is to maintain tolerance stackup with the removable/interchangeable thread mount. Because it will be compared with the Oculus (and based on mfr published numbers): http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j88/Engineer303/ammo_and_guns/Halcyon_vs_Oculus_zpsuxhazs08.jpg Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Man I like the looks of it a lot. Bye bye another $400 plus stamp cost from my wallet Because it will be compared with the Oculus (and based on mfr published numbers): http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j88/Engineer303/ammo_and_guns/Halcyon_vs_Oculus_zpsuxhazs08.jpg The adapters are pretty tight fit in the socket, and there is an o-ring seal in there. Mike Smith/AAC SilentMike |
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Posted: 4/25/2017 11:24:38 AM EDT
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ETA to dealers?
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Posted: 4/25/2017 11:30:13 AM EDT
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Should be 60-90 days. We have them in stock in Huntsville, ready to go.
Mike Smith/AAC SilentMike |
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Posted: 4/25/2017 11:46:28 AM EDT
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and my stamp for an AAC Element II recently came in
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Posted: 4/25/2017 12:00:39 PM EDT
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Very interesting, even thought I don't really need another rimfire can
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Posted: 4/25/2017 12:01:02 PM EDT
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Heck, I wouldn't be afraid to buy another Element II myself. The Element II is a great can still and only 4.1oz plus K baffle quietness
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Posted: 4/25/2017 12:07:37 PM EDT
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Heck, I wouldn't be afraid to buy another Element II myself. The Element II is a great can still and only 4.1oz plus K baffle quietness
Mike Smith/AAC SilentMike |
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Posted: 4/25/2017 12:21:45 PM EDT
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How easy is it to disassemble after it is really dirty? What is the recommended firing schedule between cleanings? It looks like the baffles are shielded (except the thread insert), correct?
Not having to fight 22 cans to get them apart and keep them from being a "sealed" can is important to me. Also, thanks for being a presence on this forum! |
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Posted: 4/25/2017 12:44:06 PM EDT
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If you can open a 20oz Mountain Dew and pour it out then you can disassemble and clean the dirty Halcyon. It's stupid easy.
The ammo will dictate how often it needs to be cleaned but every 500 or so rounds should suffice. |
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Posted: 4/25/2017 1:15:01 PM EDT
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How easy is it to disassemble after it is really dirty? What is the recommended firing schedule between cleanings? It looks like the baffles are shielded (except the thread insert), correct? Not having to fight 22 cans to get them apart and keep them from being a "sealed" can is important to me. Also, thanks for being a presence on this forum! The Halcyon will be one of the easiest rimfire cans to disassemble for cleaning/maintenance, or configuration changes, due to the tool-less design. Mike Smith/AAC SilentMike |
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Posted: 4/25/2017 2:02:34 PM EDT
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How easy is it to disassemble after it is really dirty? What is the recommended firing schedule between cleanings? It looks like the baffles are shielded (except the thread insert), correct? Not having to fight 22 cans to get them apart and keep them from being a "sealed" can is important to me. Also, thanks for being a presence on this forum! So this has been my experience with the Gemtech Alpine, which shares a similar looking baffle design, with regards to the placement of the shielding, as the Halcyon: 
On my Alpine, I found that fouling would go through the mouse holes and stick on the inner surface of the shield and builds up in the area right where the mouse hole is: 
When trying to disassemble the Alpine, you have to pull against and break up that fouling for the cone to come out: 
Which can make it difficult to separate the baffles if there's a lot of build up on the inner wall of the shield. Keep in mind this is what I experienced with the Alpine. It may or may not happen on the Halcyon based on their baffle dimensions. |
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Posted: 4/25/2017 2:07:02 PM EDT
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Heck, I wouldn't be afraid to buy another Element II myself. The Element II is a great can still and only 4.1oz plus K baffle quietness This. The Element II is a great can and one of the gold standards for performance. As with the poster above, I wouldn't mind owning another one. |
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Posted: 4/25/2017 2:17:42 PM EDT
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Interested to see how this can meters, probably gonna be in the market for a second 22 can but I'm a bit jaded since my first was a Mask
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Posted: 4/25/2017 2:26:31 PM EDT
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So this has been my experience with the Gemtech Alpine, which shares a similar looking baffle design, with regards to the placement of the shielding, as the Halcyon: http://i.imgur.com/wI8NocO.png http://files.harrispublications.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/6/2012/12/DISASSEMBLY-Author-shot_phatchfinal.jpg On my Alpine, I found that fouling would go through the mouse holes and stick on the inner surface of the shield and builds up in the area right where the mouse hole is: http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j88/Engineer303/ammo_and_guns/CagedK_zps793cc428.jpg When trying to disassemble the Alpine, you have to pull against and break up that fouling for the cone to come out: http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j88/Engineer303/ammo_and_guns/Caged-K2_zpsf55e4a74.jpg Which can make it difficult to separate the baffles if there's a lot of build up on the inner wall of the shield. Keep in mind this is what I experienced with the Alpine. It may or may not happen on the Halcyon based on their baffle dimensions. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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How easy is it to disassemble after it is really dirty? What is the recommended firing schedule between cleanings? It looks like the baffles are shielded (except the thread insert), correct? Not having to fight 22 cans to get them apart and keep them from being a "sealed" can is important to me. Also, thanks for being a presence on this forum! http://i.imgur.com/wI8NocO.png http://files.harrispublications.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/6/2012/12/DISASSEMBLY-Author-shot_phatchfinal.jpg On my Alpine, I found that fouling would go through the mouse holes and stick on the inner surface of the shield and builds up in the area right where the mouse hole is: http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j88/Engineer303/ammo_and_guns/CagedK_zps793cc428.jpg When trying to disassemble the Alpine, you have to pull against and break up that fouling for the cone to come out: http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j88/Engineer303/ammo_and_guns/Caged-K2_zpsf55e4a74.jpg Which can make it difficult to separate the baffles if there's a lot of build up on the inner wall of the shield. Keep in mind this is what I experienced with the Alpine. It may or may not happen on the Halcyon based on their baffle dimensions. Mike Smith/AAC SilentMike |
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Posted: 4/25/2017 2:59:15 PM EDT
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Interested to see how this can meters, probably gonna be in the market for a second 22 can but I'm a bit jaded since my first was a Mask
Our testing shows it is very similar to the Element 2 as far as metered sound reduction. It's quiet. |
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Posted: 4/25/2017 3:02:22 PM EDT
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Msrp?
I was buying an oculus this week. I don't own an aac can. Why should I buy this over the oculus? |
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Posted: 4/25/2017 3:06:52 PM EDT
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$450.00 MSRP. Street price will, of course, be less $$$$$$$.
Mike Smith/AAC SilentMike |
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Posted: 4/25/2017 7:09:40 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/25/2017 9:31:57 PM EDT
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From your diagrams, it appears the opening of the cone element of the Alpine baffle was a pretty close fit in the ID of the tubular spacer element. With the Halcyon baffle stack assembled, the opening of the cone rests inside a counterbore on the backside of the disk element of the baffle. The opening of the cone, and the counterbore, have about .020" of clearance per side from the I.D. of the spacer element where any buildup would occur, so you'd have to have a lot of buildup to experience difficulty separating Halcyon baffles from one another. Mike Smith/AAC SilentMike |
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Posted: 4/26/2017 7:53:17 AM EDT
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Should be 60-90 days. We have them in stock in Huntsville, ready to go. Mike Smith/AAC SilentMike Any chance of special/comemerative run for us Bama guys? It's your first suppressor produced here. |
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Posted: 4/26/2017 1:49:47 PM EDT
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Looks good. Can't wait to see and hear more about it in the coming days.
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Posted: 4/26/2017 1:52:48 PM EDT
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Damn. Can I trade in my AAC Element2?!
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Posted: 4/26/2017 2:01:57 PM EDT
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Can it take full auto 5.7 from a 7" barrel?
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Posted: 4/26/2017 2:10:40 PM EDT
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Can it take full auto 5.7 from a 7" barrel? Food for thought - a fun range session with a P90 in ammunition cost alone is roughly the cost of the silencer. |
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Posted: 4/26/2017 2:10:50 PM EDT
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Can it take full auto 5.7 from a 7" barrel? |
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Posted: 4/26/2017 2:22:25 PM EDT
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i am really interested in this one... are there more images of the baffles coming? I am curious what the front face of the baffles looks like.
Are they relatively flat faced shielded K's or is there something else going on. I haven't seen any good pictures yet. also I really like the name for a 22 can. I had to look it up, and I still can't pronounce it but... Halcyon: "denoting a period of time in the past that was idyllically happy and peaceful." is a pretty good fit for where we all hope you guys are headed, and the company's history. -Mike |
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Posted: 4/26/2017 2:53:46 PM EDT
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Like this?
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Posted: 4/26/2017 3:12:36 PM EDT
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I want to party with you.
Small time SOT's can, he told me to let him know how it goes with 5.7, lol. It's repaired and back on my .22 now. No more 5.7 use. |
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Posted: 4/26/2017 4:02:38 PM EDT
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If you are familiar with the face of the Element/Element 2 baffles, the Halcyon baffle face will be completely recognizable to you. We simply took the best K baffle design and added a shielding spacer (well, it wasn't exactly that easy, but not far from it).
Mike Smith/AAC SilentMike |
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Posted: 4/26/2017 4:04:59 PM EDT
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If you want 5.7 full-auto from a 7" barrel, I'd like to introduce you to the M4-2000.
Mike Smith/AAC SilentMike |
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Posted: 4/26/2017 4:52:34 PM EDT
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AR57's bump really nice with an S3G trigger. I crushed the baffle stack in my .22 can in one 50rd burst
Small time SOT's can, he told me to let him know how it goes with 5.7, lol. It's repaired and back on my .22 now. No more 5.7 use. |
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Posted: 4/26/2017 4:59:34 PM EDT
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If you want 5.7 full-auto from a 7" barrel, I'd like to introduce you to the M4-2000. Mike Smith/AAC SilentMike |
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Posted: 4/26/2017 5:00:16 PM EDT
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This...... |
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Posted: 4/26/2017 5:07:11 PM EDT
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If you want 5.7 full-auto from a 7" barrel, I'd like to introduce you to the M4-2000. Mike Smith/AAC SilentMike |
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Posted: 4/26/2017 5:09:25 PM EDT
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ditto Got a picture?!? That sounds awesome 
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Posted: 4/26/2017 5:12:31 PM EDT
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I think I need one
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Posted: 4/26/2017 5:26:36 PM EDT
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It's the top SBR in this picture. I don't have a can mounted on it here. Got one in the works, but I've also got a PS90 SBR on a form 4 coming as well. I'll need a can for each. Eta: nice rifles though! |
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Posted: 4/26/2017 5:35:16 PM EDT
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Pretty sure he wanted to see a picture of the crushed baffle stack... And so do I! Eta: nice rifles though! |
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Posted: 4/26/2017 6:15:06 PM EDT
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External diameter is too large. I have to stay under 1.375 to fit under the monolithic hand guards. |
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Posted: 4/26/2017 6:24:24 PM EDT
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I don't think I got a picture. Tapped the baffles out with a hammer. The baffle stack had lost about 3/4" in length. Most of them slid back and forth pretty easily but one was stuck. They were aluminum baffles, so I wasn't too surprised they didn't take the pressure. Ryder and GM9 are 1.25 but are also Aluminum, right? |
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