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3D Printed SilencerCo Octane Endcap tools New one that uses less support material and features lanyard loop. Square corner one 1) https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bw_valNiwkk3LW03bzZJMUxuRUE/view?usp=sharing Hollow one, beveled shoulder 2) https://drive.google.com/open?id=0Bw_valNiwkk3dFZvOWY3ZVgyVVE Flatter one 3) https://drive.google.com/open?id=0Bw_valNiwkk3OENQcUhaeHZwdGs Hollow2 with lanyard loop 4) https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bw_valNiwkk3SmpNVkQwX3NIN3M/view?usp=sharing |
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Do these work with both the Octane 9 and 45, or are they different?
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Originally Posted By Mecha_Loopy:
Do these work with both the Octane 9 and 45, or are they different? View Quote They are the same. The end cap pattern matches the tooth pattern on the piston. This allows you to remove the piston, put the teeth against the end cap, insert a screwdriver through the piston vents and twist the end cap off. |
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Really nice... What printer do you have? I have been looking into these, but don't know what I want.
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Is getting one a fairly simple process? Anything more than uploading one of the files above to shapeways? (Or any other recommended source?). I've never done it, so I wasn't sure if I had to check measurements or anything else.
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Originally Posted By BigWaylon:
Is getting one a fairly simple process? Anything more than uploading one of the files above to shapeways? (Or any other recommended source?). I've never done it, so I wasn't sure if I had to check measurements or anything else. View Quote Hopefully that's all that's involved, because that's what I did today. I'll let you know when they show up! |
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This is awesome. I've wanted exactly this for swapping my octane between my scorpion and M&P. Thanks for sharing the files!
I've never had anything printed, so can anyone confirm if there's anything needed other than uploading the file? |
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Originally Posted By Engineer:
Pretty simple. Download the stereolithography file (STL) onto your computer. Create a Shapeways account and then upload the model. Select "inch" as the unit for the model and it should upload and render and then give you options for what material you want to order it out of: View Quote Material recommendations? |
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Do you have the file for the piston shaped tool you drew up here?
This one: Attached File I forgot about it then found the thread again, the one you made looks like what I wanted. I was wondering if maybe you could make it with the splines on both ends and maybe 3/4" worth of spline. That way as it wore down I could just stand it down and both ends could be used |
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I've tried clicking the links above, and also right-clicking and choosing "save target", but neither results in anything.
I am logged in on VPN for work, so maybe that's an issue? |
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What printers are good to look at?
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Originally Posted By JKrammes:
What printers are good to look at? View Quote A few questions first. What are you looking to spend, what level of quality are looking for, and how much ease of use do you want? Are you looking for a complete noob friendly, out of the box experience? Or would you be OK with "some assembly required". Edit: a few more. How large of a part do you think you ever a print? Something like these adapters, or something "big" for example an AR lower Son of postban btw, hi. |
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Originally Posted By gadsden-style:
A few questions first. What are you looking to spend, what level of quality are looking for, and how much ease of use do you want? Are you looking for a complete noob friendly, out of the box experience? Or would you be OK with "some assembly required". Edit: a few more. How large of a part do you think you ever a print? Something like these adapters, or something "big" for example an AR lower Son of postban btw, hi. View Quote Guys, this is my IT expert^. Any questions regarding computers/printers/networks/gaming... |
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Originally Posted By postban:
If you don't mind what was total price shipped? View Quote I have one of each in my cart. The vary a little in price by color (white seems to be the cheapest), but the parts are all in the $8-$11 range. I chose the strong and flexible plastic, so I hope that was correct. Mine ended up being: Hollow - red - $9.19 Flat - blue - $8.12 Solid - black - $9.78 Hollow w/ lanyard - orange - $9.98 Shipping was going to be $4.99, but your first order ships free. ETA: and then when I went to checkout, it showed two options: 1. Standard (+ $0.00) ships by 2/21 2. Extended (save $9.28) ships by 3/8 Since I'm not in any rush, I'll use the $9.28 for lunch today. :D Total for all four shipped (w/ the free shipping) is $32.78. |
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Originally Posted By gadsden-style:
A few questions first. What are you looking to spend, what level of quality are looking for, and how much ease of use do you want? Are you looking for a complete noob friendly, out of the box experience? Or would you be OK with "some assembly required". Edit: a few more. How large of a part do you think you ever a print? Something like these adapters, or something "big" for example an AR lower Son of postban btw, hi. View Quote Ill spend what is needed... I'm good with some assembly required. I understand programming, and can build almost anything, I have a small machine shop in my basement. AR lower size sounds good. I am just looking right now. I don't know what I don't know. I want to do prototyping or small tools to make my work easier. I am a custom knife maker and have some ideas for gun parts... |
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Then I would recommend something of the i3 design category
Kits can be had for ultra cheap on eBay but your playing the Chinese quality lottery, wanhao seems to stand out https://youtu.be/qoEApsA7pAk The real deal would be a prusa i3 https://youtu.be/Kfe_84FGJ8c After about this price point you get fewer but more luxurious bells and whistles, mind these are both very customizable if you think about dual extrusion and what not |
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Originally Posted By gadsden-style:
Then I would recommend something of the i3 design category Kits can be had for ultra cheap on eBay but your playing the Chinese quality lottery, wanhao seems to stand out https://youtu.be/qoEApsA7pAk The real deal would be a prusa i3 https://youtu.be/Kfe_84FGJ8c After about this price point you get fewer but more luxurious bells and whistles, mind these are both very customizable if you think about dual extrusion and what not View Quote embed Wanhao Duplicator i3 Plus - Review Review: The Original Josef Prusa i3 MK2 ?? It doesn't get any better than this! |
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Originally Posted By postban:
Like this? lmk http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f49/postban/Suppressors/fnp_zpsgb1afwkc.jpg View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By postban:
Originally Posted By Effenpig:
... I was wondering if maybe you could make it with the splines on both ends and maybe 3/4" worth of spline. That way as it wore down I could just stand it down and both ends could be used Like this? lmk http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f49/postban/Suppressors/fnp_zpsgb1afwkc.jpg That is exactly 100% what I meant You sir, are a genius Do you think it makes sense? If figured between trimming it down as it wears and being double ended it would dramatically increase the service life. Has the added benefit of impressed grip too, although I'm sure you don't really want to crank on it. Eta: wait a minute, I have to take back the 100%, gonna have to knock it back to 95% What happened to MAGA, FBHO, etc.? |
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Originally Posted By postban:
embed https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qoEApsA7pAk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kfe_84FGJ8c View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By postban:
Originally Posted By gadsden-style:
Then I would recommend something of the i3 design category Kits can be had for ultra cheap on eBay but your playing the Chinese quality lottery, wanhao seems to stand out https://youtu.be/qoEApsA7pAk The real deal would be a prusa i3 https://youtu.be/Kfe_84FGJ8c After about this price point you get fewer but more luxurious bells and whistles, mind these are both very customizable if you think about dual extrusion and what not embed https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qoEApsA7pAk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kfe_84FGJ8c So the Prusia i3 mk2 is only $699? Or am I missing something? I honestly thought something like that would be around 5x that much |
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Originally Posted By Effenpig:
So the Prusia i3 mk2 is only $699? Or am I missing something? I honestly thought something like that would be around 5x that much View Quote Nope, it's really that much, I'd get one if I had money to throw at it. FYI that is tthe kit, aka, all the assembly required, but there are plentiful tutorials on the YouTubes |
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Originally Posted By Effenpig:
... What happened to MAGA, FBHO, etc.? View Quote Printed a few of those, text quality is complete shit. Like unreadable. I know the good words are there but not up to my appearance standards. That is also the reason the combo tools are unmarked. Another negative is the hex portion being similar [small] diameter to an actual piston is much harder to use than the improved combo tool designs. Sure, I suppose if you are using at an imagined frequency of weekly or even daily . You an effenarmorer? Guy in the cage fixin Hondos trigger? The Hollow2 [last design with lanyard loop] features an extra long spline portion that could be sanded down to resharpen/restore that end. |
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Originally Posted By BigWaylon:
If the answer had been complete noob, wants out-of-the-box-ready, small parts only...what would the recommendation be? View Quote https://youtu.be/U3q9f_0Lcu8 Or what I kickstarted, the trinus https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1403065126/trinus-the-affordable-all-metal-3d-printer/description Absolute total noob for small parts would be an ultimaker 2 go https://ultimaker.com/en/products/ultimaker-2-go |
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Originally Posted By postban:
Printed a few of those, text quality is complete shit. Like unreadable. I know the good words are there but not up to my appearance standards. That is also the reason the combo tools are unmarked. Another negative is the hex portion being similar [small] diameter to an actual piston is much harder to use than the improved combo tool designs. Sure, I suppose if you are using at an imagined frequency of weekly or even daily . You an effenarmorer? Guy in the cage fixin Hondos trigger? The Hollow2 [last design with lanyard loop] features an extra long spline portion that could be sanded down to resharpen/restore that end. View Quote I have a hybrid suppressor that I switch end caps plus it has kind of an inner cap that also takes the same tool Also I am a complete nut about cleaning my suppressors so I'd end up using it a lot Eta: I just saw the hollow2 version Kinda want both? Eta2: ok, looking at the hollow2 version I can see how mine looks a bit excessive Still kinda want both though Eta3: so I actually just watched the video at the beginning of the thread. I didn't realize the hollow part was a tool too, I thought it was just a handle. My suppressor doesn't have that type of cap at the other end Attached File |
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Appreciate your work and for posting these Postban!
I took files and using Autodesk's 123d program, cut each into layers the thickness of some acrylic sheet i have and exported. Imported the dxf file into my laser software and cut one out of sheet using my laser and glued up. [Link]https://goo.gl/photos/256jqL6c8zT4zn9x8[/link] Works great, my settings were a bit off, so ill make the others to see which one works best. If anyon wants the dxf files, let me know and I'll send or post. |
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Originally Posted By postban:
Like this? lmk http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f49/postban/Suppressors/fnp_zpsgb1afwkc.jpg View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By postban:
Originally Posted By Effenpig:
... I was wondering if maybe you could make it with the splines on both ends and maybe 3/4" worth of spline. That way as it wore down I could just stand it down and both ends could be used Like this? lmk http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f49/postban/Suppressors/fnp_zpsgb1afwkc.jpg Do you have a file for this one? |
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Originally Posted By Effenpig:
Do you have a file for this one? View Quote https://drive.google.com/open?id=0Bw_valNiwkk3WDFpYzMySUVzQ1k |
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Originally Posted By BigWaylon:
I have one of each in my cart. The vary a little in price by color (white seems to be the cheapest), but the parts are all in the $8-$11 range. I chose the strong and flexible plastic, so I hope that was correct. Mine ended up being: Hollow - red - $9.19 Flat - blue - $8.12 Solid - black - $9.78 Hollow w/ lanyard - orange - $9.98 Shipping was going to be $4.99, but your first order ships free. ETA: and then when I went to checkout, it showed two options: 1. Standard (+ $0.00) ships by 2/21 2. Extended (save $9.28) ships by 3/8 Since I'm not in any rush, I'll use the $9.28 for lunch today. :D Total for all four shipped (w/ the free shipping) is $32.78. View Quote I'm sorry but I must have missed something. I didn't read every word of every post. Where are you ordering these from? |
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Originally Posted By gadsden-style:
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Originally Posted By gkgeiger:
Thanks for the reply but, I couldn't find anything there pertaining to silencer tools. View Quote You really need to go back and read the thread, especially since you admitted to not doing so the first time. After all, it's still on the first page at this point...at least it is for me. |
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Originally Posted By BigWaylon:
You really need to go back and read the thread, especially since you admitted to not doing so the first time. After all, it's still on the first page at this point...at least it is for me. View Quote |
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Originally Posted By gkgeiger:
Ok, so I guess all you quoted in one of your posts is the purchase price of drawings? I'm sorry, but I thought someone was selling these. View Quote The drawings are free. You upload them to Shapeways, choose your options, and pay for them. Shapeways prints them and ships them to you. |
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Originally Posted By BigWaylon:
You upload them to Shapeways, choose your options, and pay for them. Shapeways prints them and ships them to you. View Quote I can validate that Shapeways works just fine. I printed one in Yellow, strong and flexible, smooth. It came out fine. Fit snug on the rear cap, a bit loose on the front cap. I think postban's newest one fixes the few complaints I could have had about the version I printed, but I ain't complaining. For the record, ensure you upload in 'inch'. For whatever reason, postban designs in Metric, but we have to upload in Inch. I would ask for my money back, but it was free, so... uh... yeah, there's that. |
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View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By postban:
Originally Posted By Effenpig:
Do you have a file for this one? https://drive.google.com/open?id=0Bw_valNiwkk3WDFpYzMySUVzQ1k Thanks! Now to decide on material I'm thinking platinum Attached File |
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Originally Posted By gadsden-style:
Then I would recommend something of the i3 design category Kits can be had for ultra cheap on eBay but your playing the Chinese quality lottery, wanhao seems to stand out https://youtu.be/qoEApsA7pAk The real deal would be a prusa i3 https://youtu.be/Kfe_84FGJ8c After about this price point you get fewer but more luxurious bells and whistles, mind these are both very customizable if you think about dual extrusion and what not View Quote Look at monoprice if you want any of the wanhao i3 printers. The monoprice are just rebranded wanhao i3s. But at a better price. You can get the printer for $300 shipped. There are a bunch of printable upgrades on thingiverse that you can download free if you want to change or improve something(i have quite a few good/recommend ones on my flash drive if anyone wants them) Then Swiss gear sell an upgraded hotend for a great price. If you want a different wanhao series like the i5, then just stick with wanhao. I mess around with 3D printers and laser cutters at my job everyday. But we have a couple of makerbots(exspensive! i wouldnt reccommend them for their limitations to cost ratio) for when we bring then to local public schools or events to demo mechatronics. Then a few Uprints that do print in ABS. |
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Quick update...I just got a shipment notification for my "ship by 3/8" pieces.
I also got this email from Shapeways: _________________________________________________________________ Hi Greg, Congratulations - your products have gone from a First To Try product to a successfully printed product in some materials. Why did this happen? After the most recent purchase of your products, we calculated a print success rate that is now greater than 80% for the following products and materials: ENDCAP TOOL SHORT COMBO HOLLOW is no longer First To Try in: White Strong & Flexible Green Strong & Flexible Polished Orange Strong & Flexible Polished Yellow Strong & Flexible Polished Black Strong & Flexible Red Strong & Flexible Polished Pink Strong & Flexible Polished Blue Strong & Flexible Polished Purple Strong & Flexible Polished ENDCAP TOOL SHORT COMBO CROSS is no longer First To Try in: White Strong & Flexible Black Strong & Flexible ENDCAP TOOL SHORT COMBO HOLLOW2 is no longer First To Try in: White Strong & Flexible Green Strong & Flexible Polished Orange Strong & Flexible Polished Yellow Strong & Flexible Polished Black Strong & Flexible Red Strong & Flexible Polished Pink Strong & Flexible Polished Blue Strong & Flexible Polished Purple Strong & Flexible Polished ENDCAP TOOL SHORT COMBO HRZ is no longer First To Try in: White Strong & Flexible Green Strong & Flexible Polished Orange Strong & Flexible Polished Yellow Strong & Flexible Polished Black Strong & Flexible Red Strong & Flexible Polished Pink Strong & Flexible Polished Blue Strong & Flexible Polished Purple Strong & Flexible Polished What does this mean? This means that we can confidently make your product, and you can confidently sell your product to customers in these materials. We've updated each product page so that these materials are now listed as "Products". This is to help your customers feel confident that they're purchasing a product that can be successfully made. What's next? This is a great time for you to think about how you want to sell and promote your product now that's no longer a First To Try product. Our shop owner tutorials are a great place to start. Kind regards, The Shapeways Team [email protected] _______________________________________________________ Not sure if that makes it easier for the next person that orders or not. If anybody is familiar with Shapeways and knows what it means, let me know. Is there a way for me to link the drawings I uploaded that helps out anybody else that wants to order them? |
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So, worked just fine on my standard piston retainer, but was not quite right for my fixed-barrel adapter. This has longer flutes. I pushed the tool on and it got stuck pretty hard. I used a pry tool to get it off, but it moved just a hair at a time. Any chance you can modify the one with the lanyard loop for bit of relief on the inside of the tool and make it a bit taller so it will slip all the way on the fixed-barrel adapter? I like your newest one with the lanyard loop. This was printed from the earlier models, though. I can get you whatever dimensions you need in that French measurement system, if you desire. I can also do it in Cubits.
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Originally Posted By BadgerArms:
So, worked just fine on my standard piston retainer, but was not quite right for my fixed-barrel adapter. This has longer flutes. I pushed the tool on and it got stuck pretty hard. I used a pry tool to get it off, but it moved just a hair at a time. Any chance you can modify the one with the lanyard loop for bit of relief on the inside of the tool and make it a bit taller so it will slip all the way on the fixed-barrel adapter? I like your newest one with the lanyard loop. This was printed from the earlier models, though. I can get you whatever dimensions you need in that French measurement system, if you desire. I can also do it in Cubits. View Quote Is it safe to assume that if I have the same issue with any of mine, I can take a Dremel to the inside edges/corners to provide a little clearance? |
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Originally Posted By BigWaylon:
Is it safe to assume that if I have the same issue with any of mine, I can take a Dremel to the inside edges/corners to provide a little clearance? View Quote I can try that too. I was planning on printing the lanyard loop version, though. Easier to use the digital Dremel. |
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Originally Posted By BadgerArms:
I can try that too. I was planning on printing the lanyard loop version, though. Easier to use the digital Dremel. View Quote I only have one fixed mount, and it generally stays on the Octane dedicated to my AR9, so it probably won't be a big deal anyway. |
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Originally Posted By BadgerArms:
... I can get you whatever dimensions you need in that French measurement system, if you desire. I can also do it in Cubits. ... View Quote huh huh, u said cubit Attached File Been designing Automotive for 25yrs, metric sunk in hard. Tooling guys are the only ones that ever say "inch" Fucking "thou this" and "thou that" Don't be a tooling guy. I'll whip something up to fit both if I can. |
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Originally Posted By postban:
Been designing Automotive for 25yrs, metric sunk in hard. Tooling guys are the only ones that ever say "inch" View Quote My background is aviation. We used wire gauge for drill bits. Common sizes are #40, #30, #21, and #10. Our metals were all gauged by thousandths of an inch. We have .032, .040, .050, .063, etc. We were taught measurements in fractions of an inch. Our tolerances were in fractions of an inch such as 1/64" or 1/32". We usually lost about 5% of trainees in the basic shop math course. If you didn't understand basic shop math, you could still get by, though. I think an illiterate could understand the systems. Why we had three different ways of measuring within the inch system is beyond me. I would generally lay everything out by hand and then check it with a 6" rule. Nine times out of ten, I would be within limits just by eyeball, no measuring system needed. |
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Okay, took a dremmel to the inside and was able to get it to be a snug fit rather than an interference fit on the fixed-barrel cap. It still works on the piston retainer, but doesn't stick on that one now.
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