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Posted: 9/29/2016 1:42:52 PM EDT
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But I am curious if anyone here has actually gotten some skin melting burns from their cans ever. It seems like there are quite a few products that combat burns, but how big of a possibility is it? I will accept -Exposed skin -Burned through clothes and touched skin i.e. AR15 on a sling -Burned interior of vehicle and or burned up range bag I want to hear some stories. |
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I haven't burned myself. Burned a lid of a plastic container once. Had a few friends melt their backpacks and rests before. That's about it.
You do have to be mindful of it if you've pumped some rounds through |
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I've burned bags, rests covered in carpet on the range, sandbags, pant legs, but no real serious skin burns. I've never taken a class where there's movement and sling transitions to sidearms so burning legs has never been an issue
I did burn a pant leg during a static range session where I just basically let the rifle lay against my belly |
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I have a burn on my leg from a 1966 A/C 427 sidepipe after a very spirited drive.
My skin just kind of slid off my leg and bubbled on the pipe. It turned black.. And my leg went straight to bird degree burns. |
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This guy at the range got burn.
Monkey see monkey do. Idk why, but we were talking about cans and I said that I thought 762 cans cool down faster due to the bigger through-hole (my SDN6). I touched my SDN6 and it was kind of hot after a coupe of rounds. He touched his M4-2000 after about the same number of rounds I had shot. He quickly pulled his hand away and burnt himself pretty badly. |
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Yup.
Burned/melted everything, car seats, gun cases, hands, legs, benches, tables, range... Best was seeing someone with years of experience (and knew better) look at a can and grabbed it with a full hand knowing it was hot. Skin came off and was burned into the can. "I don't know why I did that" he said. |
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Yup. Burned/melted everything, car seats, gun cases, hands, legs, benches, tables, range... Best was seeing someone with years of experience (and knew better) look at a can and grabbed it with a full hand knowing it was hot. Skin came off and was burned into the can. "I don't know why I did that" he said. View Quote Buddy of mine did it last weekend. We have been shooting together almost every weekend with cans and he just had a huge brain fart moment. It's a mistake I would think most people only make once. |
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Started a small brush fire. Set the rifle down on bipod and can was touching the dry grass.
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I was at a training gig with Surefire there was a simulated town and the course of fir was over 200 rds. A original MINI was left on a table and my boss asked to run the suppressor again. I walked up and snatched that can off the table not giving it a second thought. That SOB was so hot my brain froze and caused me to lift it above my head to throw it down. it took all the skin off my palm and left my palm/finger print in the soft Cerakote. It was kinda cool to see the skin all curled up on the can and smoking.
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I have a burn on my leg from a 1966 A/C 427 sidepipe after a very spirited drive. My skin just kind of slid off my leg and bubbled on the pipe. It turned black.. And my leg went straight to bird degree burns. View Quote I was on my dirt bike in a rutted up field and it tipped over putting the pipe on my ankle. Ruts were so big it took a bit to get it off. I got it off and waited for it to hurt. I thought I was in shock. Rode home, fast, and put it under cold water waiting for it to hurt. Never did. Went to doctor and he said I burned the nerve endings. Another second and I would have needed a skin graft. Still have the mark. They make.....silver sulfate I think it is. Amazing stuff for burns. I think it's prescription only but if not it would be great to bring on suppressor days. |
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My wrist touched a hot iron years ago hidden behind a pile of cloths in my laundry room, didn't realize what was happening- it actually had a cold metal sensation before i realized what had happened- a puddle of flesh slid off my wrist- then i wrapped it up in gauze for 3 days and by that time iit started healing in the gauze with the skin- that was a painful process knowing what i had to do.
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Burned when removing a can with a silicon pot holder. The pot holder slipped and my hand touched the can for HOT second .
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Holy shit, talk about cautionary tales!!
I just got my YHM Phantom out of jail a few weeks ago and haven't shot it yet, but I went ahead and got a Manta sleeve for it back in the spring. Goofy-looking, but if it prevents the kind of burns that have been posted here, I'll leave it on. |
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FSBs get pretty freaking hot too, I've leaned to stay away from that end after a few rounds.
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Schadenfreude 101:
Don't put your tongue on the frozen flagpole. Don't grab a suppressor after firing. |
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FSBs get pretty freaking hot too, I've leaned to stay away from that end after a few rounds. View Quote Yup.... Back when I had an M16 (Frankfort RR) I was testing an 11.5" upper for a manufacturer friend that didn't have his SOT yet. It was winter time and I just got done dumping three mags in a row. Wanted to check out the flip up front sight (mounted to the gas block...) and grabbed it with my fingers. The cuts on the side of the site were visible on my fingers for three days..... Thankfully I had some snow to stick my hand in right away. Lesson learned! Other than a couple "HOLY CRAP THAT'S HOT!" moments with my cans I've never actually burned myself with them. Guess I really can learn. ETA - I will say one of the cooler things I've seen was again with said M16. A couple of relatives and myself were dumping mags and my brother-in-law wanted to light his cigarette and forgot his lighter. I don't smoke, but I just grabbed his cig and held it to the gas tube up by the fsb. Lit right up. |
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Holy shit, talk about cautionary tales!! I just got my YHM Phantom out of jail a few weeks ago and haven't shot it yet, but I went ahead and got a Manta sleeve for it back in the spring. Goofy-looking, but if it prevents the kind of burns that have been posted here, I'll leave it on. View Quote I bought the same, Tactical Fleshlight. |
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ive melted all kinds of carpet and table covers at ranges. Melted a few socks and towels
Luckily no injuries |
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Quoted:Best was seeing someone with years of experience (and knew better) look at a can and grabbed it with a full hand knowing it was hot. Skin came off and was burned into the can. "I don't know why I did that" he said. View Quote Strange how that happens. My buddy and I had just finished quals with a 240, and we're getting off the line when he grabs the barrel with his bare hand. I ask "ain't that hot?", he say "yes" and drops the barrel. 2nd deg burns. In line with this thread, I've melted mechanics gloves into a can, the plastic is still on the can. I've also rested a hot one against a truck bumper. Plastic bumper, That'ss till on the can too. |
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about 20 minutes after I let a friend do half ass (semi auto) mag dumps in my SBR, I grabbed my can to take it off for travel.
it was still hot enough to blister my fingers. |
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I got off of my Ducati 748 while wearing shorts once (last time) and put my knee into the exhaust pipe. I have a scar to this day.
Nothing bad with a suppressor though as I seem to be more cautious with them. |
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had my 762 saker on my 308 rifle, shot prob 40 rounds and let it cool off. well, i forgot those things get hot and while moving stuff around on the bench my left hand *wrist* just kissed the can. had a blister within 10 mins besides that, nothing yet.
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Holy shit, talk about cautionary tales!! I just got my YHM Phantom out of jail a few weeks ago and haven't shot it yet, but I went ahead and got a Manta sleeve for it back in the spring. Goofy-looking, but if it prevents the kind of burns that have been posted here, I'll leave it on. I bought the same, Tactical Fleshlight. Ribbed for the pleasure of not burning off five layers of skin. |
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On day at the range, I had just shot 30 rounds through my suppressor and placed it on a table. Someone walked by the table and bumped the stock....it started to slide off the table and I grabbed the can to stop if from hitting the ground.
I let a string of obscenities out that made the whole range stop. My right hand is still tender in the middle of my palm. |
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After running live fire lanes and having ran 3-4 mags through our M16A2's for suppressive fire we
immediately cleared weapons, exited the range and hopped in the back of a duece-ana-half. A squad mate placed the buttstock between his feet and let the rifle lean back against his chest. The flash hider landed on the right side of his neck and instantly seared a perfect imprint of the flash hider. NASTY burn. I bet he still has that scar 25 years later. During Bradley gunnery one of our tracks came off the line after firing day stage. When the vehicle came to a stop the driver popped hatch and jumped out for a stretch and inexplicably layed his hand on the 25mm barrel which proceeded to raise a one inch deep blister on the entire palm of his right hand. A bunch of us watched him do it but it happened so fast no one could say a word. |
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After running live fire lanes and having ran 3-4 mags through our M16A2's for suppressive fire we immediately cleared weapons, exited the range and hopped in the back of a duece-ana-half. A squad mate placed the buttstock between his feet and let the rifle lean back against his chest. The flash hider landed on the right side of his neck and instantly seared a perfect imprint of the flash hider. NASTY burn. I bet he still has that scar 25 years later. During Bradley gunnery one of our tracks came off the line after firing day stage. When the vehicle came to a stop the driver popped hatch and jumped out for a stretch and inexplicably layed his hand on the 25mm barrel which proceeded to raise a one inch deep blister on the entire palm of his right hand. A bunch of us watched him do it but it happened so fast no one could say a word. View Quote Ouch...having been near a Bradley and felt the heat off the barrel, that me wince. |
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Out of my own ignorance, how long should one wait before attempting to remove a can from your gun? I have 2 cans in jail right now would honestly like some info on this.
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The oven glove is a help, but then you still have to be careful where you put it.
I watched a guy drop one on the foam of a deep Pelican case, and see the can sink right to the bottom. As far as how long to wait, you will quickly learn that it's entirely dependent on how many rounds, and how fast you fired. But, it takes far fewer than you might expect to get the can too hot to hold, even with bolt guns. A half dozen .308 rounds fired in under minute can be enough to keep your bare hands away. For under $20.00, one of those inexpensive infrared thermometers has proved a very useful learning tool at the range. |
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I melted a Mechanic glove to my brand new Saker762 after its first 30 Rds. Yeah I was a rookie and learned from it.
Also had an AK front sight burn into my leg once. The burn marked look just like the sight. It was like this for months. That was 10 years ago. No scare now. |
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I burned my hand pretty good when the can started coming loose halfway through a stage at a subgun match. I was shooting a MAC10/45, and they have a tendency to loosen anyway. I just reached up and gave it a hard twist. Ended up blistering the area between my thumb and forefinger, but no permanent scars.
A good can cover on an OEM MAC setup is a must! |
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Only melted some range bench carpet once. Gets pretty hot as people know.
Side note - got a different burn years ago and a Harley Lady gave me a recommendation. I was burning badly and had no burn cream or anything so I said "what the hell" I took some white paste colgate and smeared it on my burn. Did a great job removing the pain. |
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I keep an infrared thermometer in my range kit just to make sure it is safe to handle and pack up before touching it. It only took two mags of rapid fire to get it up to 600 degrees.
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This is why all my rifle suppressors have covers but one, and I am planning on getting a Griptastic for it. Once my Recce 7 comes in, it gets a Griptastic too.
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My first day with my first can a plastic grocery bag I use to hold a bottle of CLP blew onto my hot suppressor. Immediately became part of the can. A couple years and a couple thousand rounds later it's almost all gone except for "fossilized" remnants.
Recently set down a hot can on the wood table at the range and the finish/stain melted and turned to liquid. Smelled pretty crazy too. Melted a hole in my Caldwell shooting bag. Fixed it with duct tape but eventually had to throw it out when it opened and spilled 20 pounds of sand into my trunk. Non suppressor related: 1) Put my palm and entire weight on a hot plate thinking it was a kitchen scale. 2) Grabbed a set of snow chains out of my buddies trunk and it was wrapped around a (mostly) dead car battery. Gave me a terrible grid shaped burn from my fingertips to my wrist. Note: Silver sulfadiazine ointment is damn near magical with burns. |
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10.5" M4 (RR, company issued weapon). Ran 3 mags through it pretty rapid fire, with the last 15 rds being on auto. Bolt Locked to the rear and I dropped it on the one point sling and transitioned to my handgun. About the time I let go of the rifle with my left hand I smelled burning hair and felt a searing pain on my left leg. Freaking GemTech M4-96D was REALLY freaking hot when it hit my leg. I had a nice burn about a half inch wide and 4 inches long for 2 weeks.
Never wore shorts to a high volume of fire event after that. |
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First time we took dismounted contact in OEF, I let my M4 barrel lean against my left knee as I dicked with my radio. After 2.5 magazines at fast semi, that motherfucker was hottttttt. To this day kneeling on that side hurts.
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Grabbed my YHM Phantom after two or three mags. Luckily I was wearing gloves because the can charred the leather of the palm and left a handprint on the can. Would have been a nasty burn if not for the gloves.
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