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Posted: 8/15/2016 10:00:41 AM EDT
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I have firearms coverage through State Farm
I've had it pay a claim on a title 1 item, no problem |
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Posted: 8/15/2016 10:04:44 AM EDT
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After having 2 pistols stolen, I checked with state farm and will be getting a policy through them. It's $0 deductible and they will cover any NFA, including machine guns, and even NV gear.
Edit- I asked about MG because I have one in transfer and my agent says they will pay current market value on them. |
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Posted: 8/15/2016 10:08:43 AM EDT
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After having 2 pistols stolen, I checked with state farm and will be getting a policy through them. It's $0 deductible and they will cover any NFA, including machine guns, and even NV gear. Edit- I asked about MG because I have one in transfer and my agent says they will pay current market value on them. Right, replacement cost |
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Posted: 8/15/2016 1:10:23 PM EDT
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I looked into State Farm and it was crazy expensive for my collection. I don't remember off the top of my head who I use (it was recommended on here or another gun forum I'm on), but it was much better. And it covers any firearm related item - guns, ammo, suppressors, mags, scopes, night vision, reloading, etc.
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Posted: 8/15/2016 4:58:15 PM EDT
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In, as I would like to update some of mine.
I have used several, can't remember the name as it was tied into my at first renters insurance and now into my home policy, but I want to add some more. I shopped around a lot before and hated that they wanted to charge me the same rate for scopes and such as the firearm itself. So I store them in the safe separate with qd mounts and then included them on the general house hold items/covered stuff. I also keep a excel sheet with all the serial numbers of everything that has one, and a picture of it showing the number, whether it be a tv, gun, scope, firearm etc. Call me OCD but I don't want a hassle, if I ever have a claim.. Also doesn't hurt to Do a walk around your home while filming describing stuff as proof as well. Never hurts encase there was ever a fire or natural disaster... |
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Posted: 8/15/2016 5:35:43 PM EDT
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Check these guys out. I am going with them. Mailed off my application today. VERY good rates. Covers guns, NFA items, optics, cases, leather goods. etc.
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Posted: 8/15/2016 6:23:06 PM EDT
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Collectibles Insurance Services. By far the best pricing I've seen. NFA stuff is covered.
I've never had to make a claim, thank goodness, so cannot comment on the claims service. |
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Posted: 8/15/2016 6:26:51 PM EDT
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Collectibles Insurance Services. By far the best pricing I've seen. NFA stuff is covered. I've never had to make a claim, thank goodness, so cannot comment on the claims service. Look into the link I posted above you. I thought CollectInsure was good too, but Eastern Insurance's "HFI" has them beat by quite a bit. |
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Posted: 8/15/2016 6:33:44 PM EDT
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I have a policy on all my guns and NFA stuff through Farmers. Wasn't nearly as expensive as I thought.
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Posted: 8/15/2016 6:41:57 PM EDT
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I have a policy on all my guns and NFA stuff through Farmers. Wasn't nearly as expensive as I thought. I went to talk to my agent about it specifically, and I about fell over for what a firearms rider on my collection would be. |
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Posted: 8/15/2016 6:57:40 PM EDT
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Check these guys out. I am going with them. Mailed off my application today. VERY good rates. Covers guns, NFA items, optics, cases, leather goods. etc. Yep, that's who I went with also. Much more reasonable for what I had to cover. He offers a discount for NRA members too. |
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Posted: 8/15/2016 7:05:17 PM EDT
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I use USAA Valuable Property Insurance for my firearms, suppressors, and I even have my high-end optics insured. Very low rate for the amount of coverage I get IMO.
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Posted: 8/15/2016 7:10:09 PM EDT
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Look into the link I posted above you. I thought CollectInsure was good too, but Eastern Insurance's "HFI" has them beat by quite a bit. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Collectibles Insurance Services. By far the best pricing I've seen. NFA stuff is covered. I've never had to make a claim, thank goodness, so cannot comment on the claims service. Look into the link I posted above you. I thought CollectInsure was good too, but Eastern Insurance's "HFI" has them beat by quite a bit. Agreed. I switched from Collectibles Insurance to Historic Firearms. Historic's minimum coverage was $30k, and they were STILL cheaper than my $20k policy with Collectibles Insurance. And have better communication. Very happy with Historic Firearms / Eastern Insurance. |
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Posted: 8/15/2016 7:13:39 PM EDT
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Agreed. I switched from Collectibles Insurance to Historic Firearms. Historic's minimum coverage was $30k, and they were STILL cheaper than my $20k policy with Collectibles Insurance. And have better communication. Very happy with Historic Firearms / Eastern Insurance. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Collectibles Insurance Services. By far the best pricing I've seen. NFA stuff is covered. I've never had to make a claim, thank goodness, so cannot comment on the claims service. Look into the link I posted above you. I thought CollectInsure was good too, but Eastern Insurance's "HFI" has them beat by quite a bit. Agreed. I switched from Collectibles Insurance to Historic Firearms. Historic's minimum coverage was $30k, and they were STILL cheaper than my $20k policy with Collectibles Insurance. And have better communication. Very happy with Historic Firearms / Eastern Insurance. I am in the market too and am curious how do they compare to this? https://mynrainsurance.com/insurance-products/firearms-armscare-plus |
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Posted: 8/15/2016 7:23:59 PM EDT
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NRA's insurance sucked from what I recall. Get quotes from a couple places. Important things to ask:
1. Is ammo covered? 2. Are mags covered? 3. Are scopes, lasers, flashlights, etc. covered? 4. Are items registered to a trust covered? |
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Posted: 8/15/2016 7:25:27 PM EDT
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Collectibles Insurance Services. By far the best pricing I've seen. NFA stuff is covered. I've never had to make a claim, thank goodness, so cannot comment on the claims service. Look into the link I posted above you. I thought CollectInsure was good too, but Eastern Insurance's "HFI" has them beat by quite a bit. Agreed. I switched from Collectibles Insurance to Historic Firearms. Historic's minimum coverage was $30k, and they were STILL cheaper than my $20k policy with Collectibles Insurance. And have better communication. Very happy with Historic Firearms / Eastern Insurance. I am in the market too and am curious how do they compare to this? https://mynrainsurance.com/insurance-products/firearms-armscare-plus For what I just signed up for with Eastern / HFI - Armscare Plus is 4x the premium cost. AND! Eastern doesn't require a schedule of guns unless the value is over $10,000. So, not having to list every gun/firearm/accessory over $2,500 is nice. |
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Posted: 8/15/2016 8:22:45 PM EDT
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Do many require an itemized list of every item (I seen Gopherboy above answered for company he went with) ?
Or are most like the one above and just want itemized for individual items over a certain value? |
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Posted: 8/15/2016 8:29:48 PM EDT
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Do many require an itemized list of every item (I seen Gopherboy above answered for company he went with) ? Or are most like the one above and just want itemized for individual items over a certain value? Collectibles and Historic only need it over a pretty high value, don't remember the exact numbers on each. NRA and some more traditional insurance companies require it at much lower levels, like $2500 on a single item. |
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Posted: 8/15/2016 8:44:07 PM EDT
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Do many require an itemized list of every item (I seen Gopherboy above answered for company he went with) ? Or are most like the one above and just want itemized for individual items over a certain value? State Farm and USAA want make model caliber serial number |
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Posted: 8/15/2016 9:17:45 PM EDT
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Collectibles and Historic only need it over a pretty high value, don't remember the exact numbers on each. NRA and some more traditional insurance companies require it at much lower levels, like $2500 on a single item. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Do many require an itemized list of every item (I seen Gopherboy above answered for company he went with) ? Or are most like the one above and just want itemized for individual items over a certain value? Collectibles and Historic only need it over a pretty high value, don't remember the exact numbers on each. NRA and some more traditional insurance companies require it at much lower levels, like $2500 on a single item. Collectibles is 5k. They didn't need the serial number though, just the make and model. |
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Posted: 8/15/2016 9:21:32 PM EDT
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I think the checked all the big names and collectibles and historic; NONE would cover large amounts of ammo.
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Posted: 8/15/2016 9:41:03 PM EDT
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Agreed. I switched from Collectibles Insurance to Historic Firearms. Historic's minimum coverage was $30k, and they were STILL cheaper than my $20k policy with Collectibles Insurance. And have better communication. Very happy with Historic Firearms / Eastern Insurance. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Collectibles Insurance Services. By far the best pricing I've seen. NFA stuff is covered. I've never had to make a claim, thank goodness, so cannot comment on the claims service. Look into the link I posted above you. I thought CollectInsure was good too, but Eastern Insurance's "HFI" has them beat by quite a bit. Agreed. I switched from Collectibles Insurance to Historic Firearms. Historic's minimum coverage was $30k, and they were STILL cheaper than my $20k policy with Collectibles Insurance. And have better communication. Very happy with Historic Firearms / Eastern Insurance. Out of curiosity, how much was the $30K coverage? |
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Posted: 8/15/2016 10:02:28 PM EDT
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Collectibles Insurance Services. By far the best pricing I've seen. NFA stuff is covered. I've never had to make a claim, thank goodness, so cannot comment on the claims service. Look into the link I posted above you. I thought CollectInsure was good too, but Eastern Insurance's "HFI" has them beat by quite a bit. Agreed. I switched from Collectibles Insurance to Historic Firearms. Historic's minimum coverage was $30k, and they were STILL cheaper than my $20k policy with Collectibles Insurance. And have better communication. Very happy with Historic Firearms / Eastern Insurance. Out of curiosity, how much was the $30K coverage? $125 annually, great price in my experience. |
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Posted: 8/15/2016 10:32:58 PM EDT
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I believe their lowest is $35k for $125 per year
ETA: Just checked my welcome packet, and it is $35k. They advertise $0.33 per $100 of coverage. Also said 5% discount for NRA members. |
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Posted: 8/15/2016 10:39:13 PM EDT
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I believe their lowest is $35k for $125 per year ETA: Just checked my welcome packet, and it is $35k. They advertise $0.33 per $100 of coverage. Also said 5% discount for NRA members. You're right, I just checked my Historic Firearms packet now that you said this and it was $125 for $35k. My Collectibles Insurance policy was $137 annually for $20k if I'm not mistaken. May have been $22k? Either way, a LOT more coverage and I even saved $12 annually. |
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Posted: 8/15/2016 10:45:08 PM EDT
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I got 15% more coverage and saved almost 50%.
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Posted: 8/15/2016 10:53:43 PM EDT
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You're right, I just checked my Historic Firearms packet now that you said this and it was $125 for $35k. My Collectibles Insurance policy was $137 annually for $20k if I'm not mistaken. May have been $22k? Either way, a LOT more coverage and I even saved $12 annually. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I believe their lowest is $35k for $125 per year ETA: Just checked my welcome packet, and it is $35k. They advertise $0.33 per $100 of coverage. Also said 5% discount for NRA members. You're right, I just checked my Historic Firearms packet now that you said this and it was $125 for $35k. My Collectibles Insurance policy was $137 annually for $20k if I'm not mistaken. May have been $22k? Either way, a LOT more coverage and I even saved $12 annually. Is everybody paying annually? |
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Posted: 8/15/2016 11:15:40 PM EDT
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Eastern Insurance said I had to pay in full to start my coverage, but that once they sent me a formal offer, I could pay over the phone to have coverage starting that day.
I dont know if they offer a payment plan? Believe most insurance are due in full to begin coverage. Here is the thread from GD that turned me on to Eastern / Historic Firearms Insurance. |
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Posted: 8/16/2016 12:05:18 AM EDT
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Eastern / Historic here also on both my firearms and art. The fact it's under written by Hanover, and offered through Hanover and Chubb alone with multiple reviews here is what made me pick them over anything else.
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Posted: 8/16/2016 10:55:44 AM EDT
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Look into the link I posted above you. I thought CollectInsure was good too, but Eastern Insurance's "HFI" has them beat by quite a bit. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Collectibles Insurance Services. By far the best pricing I've seen. NFA stuff is covered. I've never had to make a claim, thank goodness, so cannot comment on the claims service. Look into the link I posted above you. I thought CollectInsure was good too, but Eastern Insurance's "HFI" has them beat by quite a bit. I'll be sure and do that. Thank you for the heads up. |
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Posted: 8/16/2016 10:58:52 AM EDT
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Collectibles and Historic only need it over a pretty high value, don't remember the exact numbers on each. NRA and some more traditional insurance companies require it at much lower levels, like $2500 on a single item. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Do many require an itemized list of every item (I seen Gopherboy above answered for company he went with) ? Or are most like the one above and just want itemized for individual items over a certain value? Collectibles and Historic only need it over a pretty high value, don't remember the exact numbers on each. NRA and some more traditional insurance companies require it at much lower levels, like $2500 on a single item. Collectibles is $5k or more for scheduling. However, this includes optics and other accoutrements. So, for example, if you believe your 10.5 inch factory Noveske and Elcan combo is valued at more than $5k, it needs to be specifically scheduled. |
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Posted: 8/16/2016 11:30:47 PM EDT
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4. Are items registered to a trust covered? Good point I could see a insurance company using that as a way out. |
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Posted: 8/17/2016 7:25:42 AM EDT
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4. Are items registered to a trust covered? Good point I could see a insurance company using that as a way out. Additionally...do you get the policy in your name? Or the trust's name? I'd hope individual so you could add non-NFA items (or you could simply add those items to the trust?) |
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Posted: 8/17/2016 8:46:32 AM EDT
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Additionally...do you get the policy in your name? Or the trust's name? I'd hope individual so you could add non-NFA items (or you could simply add those items to the trust?) Quote HistoryQuoted:
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4. Are items registered to a trust covered? Good point I could see a insurance company using that as a way out. Additionally...do you get the policy in your name? Or the trust's name? I'd hope individual so you could add non-NFA items (or you could simply add those items to the trust?) It depends on the insurance company. One of the majors (can't remember which), requires that you have two separate accounts/payments - one for non-NFA firearms and one for your trust. The NRA/Lockton insurance requires that you name your individual and trust items separately with the associated coverage amounts, but you can keep it all under one account with one payment. And some just cover everything under one account with no separation. It's an important distinction to make though so I would definitely check with your insurance company, and go up the chain if necessary because some customer service people will not know. |
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Posted: 8/17/2016 8:49:17 AM EDT
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Additionally...do you get the policy in your name? Or the trust's name? I'd hope individual so you could add non-NFA items (or you could simply add those items to the trust?) Quote HistoryQuoted:
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4. Are items registered to a trust covered? Good point I could see a insurance company using that as a way out. Additionally...do you get the policy in your name? Or the trust's name? I'd hope individual so you could add non-NFA items (or you could simply add those items to the trust?) Technically, both. All Named Insureds listed will be indemnified. If you read your HO policy I bet it says something along the lines of "items in your care or custody" are covered. |
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Posted: 8/17/2016 10:04:15 AM EDT
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I got a quote from Historic/Eastern the other day and asked about nfa items under a trust. They said yes the trust items are covered under one policy, and they cover the cost of the tax stamp's, and cover the items while they are in transfer. You can't beat $135 annually for $35k of coverage for guns, optics, nfa, and ammo.
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Posted: 8/17/2016 10:45:15 AM EDT
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Eastern HFI responded today. They can add/remove/change named insureds on the policy at any time. So my policy will cover me as an individual and both of my NFA trusts.
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Posted: 8/17/2016 11:32:09 AM EDT
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I got a quote from Historic/Eastern the other day and asked about nfa items under a trust. They said yes the trust items are covered under one policy, and they cover the cost of the tax stamp's, and cover the items while they are in transfer. You can't beat $135 annually for $35k of coverage for guns, optics, nfa, and ammo. They cover ammo? |
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Posted: 8/17/2016 12:27:51 PM EDT
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1. Insure ammo.
2. unfortunately it is distroyed in a series of small explosions. 3. file claim 4. profit 5. jail probably for arson and insurance fraud. |
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Posted: 8/17/2016 12:39:26 PM EDT
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1. Insure ammo. 2. unfortunately it is distroyed in a series of small explosions. 3. file claim 4. profit 5. jail probably for arson and insurance fraud. Kinda like Brad Paisley's version in The Cigar Song. Claimed his Cubans were destroyed in a series of small fires...until he ended up being charged with 24 counts of arson. 
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Posted: 8/17/2016 1:19:58 PM EDT
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I have firearms coverage through State Farm I've had it pay a claim on a title 1 item, no problem came to post half of this(thank god nothing has been lost), I got a policy on guns, optics, and cans. State farm does my house and my firearms rider, didn't care that it was a can just that it was legal (lady asked how long my stamp wait was, lol) I think I pay about 550 a year for house and guns combined. |
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Posted: 8/17/2016 1:22:32 PM EDT
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Collectibles Insurance Services. By far the best pricing I've seen. NFA stuff is covered. I've never had to make a claim, thank goodness, so cannot comment on the claims service. Look into the link I posted above you. I thought CollectInsure was good too, but Eastern Insurance's "HFI" has them beat by quite a bit. Agreed. I switched from Collectibles Insurance to Historic Firearms. Historic's minimum coverage was $30k, and they were STILL cheaper than my $20k policy with Collectibles Insurance. And have better communication. Very happy with Historic Firearms / Eastern Insurance. Out of curiosity, how much was the $30K coverage? $125 annually, great price in my experience. So if I BUY MORE guns I can SAVE money... Off to cabellas...
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Posted: 8/17/2016 1:30:36 PM EDT
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I use USAA Valuable Property Insurance for my firearms, suppressors, and I even have my high-end optics insured. Very low rate for the amount of coverage I get IMO. Same here. |
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Posted: 8/17/2016 3:45:47 PM EDT
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I put this in the other thread, but I thought I would put it here too.
So I called both collectibles and eastern today. Here is a quick list of what some differences I observed - Eastern Minimums - $30,000 coverage policy Premium - $125/yr Deductible - $100 No scheduling for items under $5k $10k Covers everything except ammo %5 discount for NRA members Eastern expects your homeowners policy to cover the safe Collectibles Minimums - $70/yr premium Premium for $20,000 - $155 Premium for $30,000 - $218 Deductible - none, minimum claim of $50 No scheduling for items under $5k Covers everything including ammo and the safe. No discounts for NRA membership mentioned. Eastern seems to come in substantially lower than Collectibles, but I don't always pick the the lower bidder. For me customer service means more than cost. Has anyone ever had to make a claim, with with either? For the ammo I'm guessing my renters/homeowners policy would cover that. They cover up to $3000 of "valuable" items. |
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Posted: 8/17/2016 4:28:17 PM EDT
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I put this in the other thread, but I thought I would put it here too. So I called both collectibles and eastern today. Here is a quick list of what some differences I observed - Eastern Minimums - $30,000 coverage policy Premium - $125/yr Deductible - $100 No scheduling for items under $5k Covers everything except ammo %5 discount for NRA members Eastern expects your homeowners policy to cover the safe Collectibles Minimums - $70/yr premium Premium for $20,000 - $155 Premium for $30,000 - $218 Deductible - none, minimum claim of $50 No scheduling for items under $5k Covers everything including ammo and the safe. No discounts for NRA membership mentioned. Eastern seems to come in substantially lower than Collectibles, but I don't always pick the the lower bidder. For me customer service means more than cost. Has anyone ever had to make a claim, with with either? For the ammo I'm guessing my renters/homeowners policy would cover that. They cover up to $3000 of "valuable" items. Good luck getting a homeowners policy to cover ammo not to mention your deductible or affect on future premiums Is be interested in hearing actual claims experience with Eastern or Collectibles as well as if you're getting non renewed. |
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Posted: 8/17/2016 7:13:37 PM EDT
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I put this in the other thread, but I thought I would put it here too. So I called both collectibles and eastern today. Here is a quick list of what some differences I observed - Eastern Minimums - $30,000 coverage policy Premium - $125/yr Deductible - $100 No scheduling for items under $5k Covers everything except ammo %5 discount for NRA members Eastern expects your homeowners policy to cover the safe Collectibles Minimums - $70/yr premium Premium for $20,000 - $155 Premium for $30,000 - $218 Deductible - none, minimum claim of $50 No scheduling for items under $5k Covers everything including ammo and the safe. No discounts for NRA membership mentioned. Eastern seems to come in substantially lower than Collectibles, but I don't always pick the the lower bidder. For me customer service means more than cost. Has anyone ever had to make a claim, with with either? For the ammo I'm guessing my renters/homeowners policy would cover that. They cover up to $3000 of "valuable" items. FYI, $35k minimum coverage on Eastern. I made a mistake earlier in the thread and said $30k, but I checked my welcome paperwork. I'm with you, relying on my renter's insurance to cover my safe. I haven't made a claim with either, but customer service / communication is a lot better with Eastern than Collectibles in my experience. |
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Posted: 8/17/2016 7:49:41 PM EDT
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Just trying to get info, Eastern is WAYYY better than Collectibles.
Also, Eastern doesn't required scheduled items under $10,000 in value, per their 2016 "Welcome" packet. |
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Posted: 8/17/2016 8:03:13 PM EDT
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I had always planned on getting insurance on my collection, but never took the time to do the research. Thanks OP and everyone that has contributed to this thread! You made it easy for me!
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Posted: 8/18/2016 12:16:36 AM EDT
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I haven't made a claim with either, but customer service / communication is a lot better with Eastern than Collectibles in my experience. Can you give some examples of this? I'm wanting to make a decsion before the end of the week and customer service is more important to me than saving a few bucks (PSA is my only exception ).
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Posted: 8/18/2016 12:27:33 AM EDT
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Do any of these policies require you to itemize by serial # and make/model for each firearm??
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